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Loose Cannon



Just to help me get thru this dead period, I've been mulling over this Question.

With our 3pt core shooters returning, who will be our Top Two 2pt scorers (Any combination of Short jumpers, Floaters, Lay ups, Put Backs, Dunks and Made 2pt Free Throw.)

I know its really early and most don't have an idea about the new guys, but if you have the time help me out here.  Thanks
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

lurch91

Matt Heldt

Everyone else has 3pt range and ability.  Because of everyone else taking 3 pointers, I would think Matt would lead in ppg from 2pt range.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: lurch91 on April 20, 2017, 10:28:08 AM
Matt Heldt

Everyone else has 3pt range and ability.  Because of everyone else taking 3 pointers, I would think Matt would lead in ppg from 2pt range.

Thanks but I was looking for 2.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

LAMUfan

Quote from: lurch91 on April 20, 2017, 10:28:08 AM
Matt Heldt

Everyone else has 3pt range and ability.  Because of everyone else taking 3 pointers, I would think Matt would lead in ppg from 2pt range.

I like Heldt, but this would not be good

wadesworld

Cain, Rowsey, Howard, Hauser.

Clam Crowder

It will be Haanif at 1 and Heldt/Froling at 2...more likely Froling than Heldt unless Heldt solidifies starter minutes prior to Froling's eligibility

Loose Cannon

Quote from: wadesworld on April 20, 2017, 10:38:24 AM
Cain, Rowsey, Howard, Hauser.

Can you break that down to only 2, Thanks
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

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lurch91

Quote from: Clam Crowder on April 20, 2017, 10:39:07 AM
It will be Haanif at 1 and Heldt/Froling at 2...more likely Froling than Heldt unless Heldt solidifies starter minutes prior to Froling's eligibility


I forgot Froling is waiting in the wings.  If I had more faith in Haanif, I would have listed him but we all know "he basically got benched the end of last season".  Here's hoping he figures it out this summer.

Loose Cannon

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Loose Cannon

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 20, 2017, 02:21:55 PM
Harry & Sacar.

Yeah, I'm slightly tilted in this direction.  With Sacar playing the role of the Best player on the opposing team ALL last year and with his High school pedigree, he becomes a valuable teammate. 
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jesmu84

Quote from: Loose Cannon on April 20, 2017, 03:07:57 PM
Yeah, I'm slightly tilted in this direction.  With Sacar playing the role of the Best player on the opposing team ALL last year and with his High school pedigree, he becomes a valuable teammate.

Care to expand?

Loose Cannon

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 20, 2017, 03:21:43 PM
Care to expand?

Going on memory here:  Minnesota Mr  Basketball, also I think his HS team won its Conference all 4 years during his time.  But you can check Google or accuracy and other facts.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

BM1090

Quote from: Loose Cannon on April 20, 2017, 03:47:18 PM
Going on memory here:  Minnesota Mr  Basketball, also I think his HS team won its Conference all 4 years during his time.  But you can check Google or accuracy and other facts.

Won state all 4 years, I believe.

Loose Cannon

" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

#UnleashSean

Without looking at stats, I'd have to say Rowsey will be our top 2pt scorer returning.

jesmu84

Quote from: Loose Cannon on April 20, 2017, 03:47:18 PM
Going on memory here:  Minnesota Mr  Basketball, also I think his HS team won its Conference all 4 years during his time.  But you can check Google or accuracy and other facts.

Do exceptionally successful college players generally take a non-medical/transfer redshirt?

wadesworld

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 20, 2017, 04:28:24 PM
Do exceptionally successful college players generally take a non-medical/transfer redshirt?

Ethan Happ is okay.  Justin Patton had a decent freshman season.

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Loose Cannon

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on April 20, 2017, 04:16:57 PM
Without looking at stats, I'd have to say Rowsey will be our top 2pt scorer returning.

OK I Need one More.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 20, 2017, 04:28:24 PM
Do exceptionally successful college players generally take a non-medical/transfer redshirt?

There are examples, Wades brought up the two most recent ones. Many are busts. Many develop into solid rotation players and even starters. I'm guessing Sacar ends up becoming a valuable player off the bench next season, maybe 10-15 minutes a game.
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Loose Cannon

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 20, 2017, 04:28:24 PM
Do exceptionally successful college players generally take a non-medical/transfer redshirt?

Can you say it plainer, are you implying that accepting to be red shirted might be an indication of having lesser college BB talent.  And maybe not developing better skills during his college career?
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

jesmu84

Quote from: Loose Cannon on April 20, 2017, 04:57:19 PM
Can you say it plainer, are you implying that accepting to be red shirted might be an indication of having lesser college BB talent.  And maybe not developing better skills during his college career?

All I was trying to say was that it's pretty rare that players who redshirt for non-medical/transfer reasons turn out to be above-average/great high D1 college players.

Basically, outside of needing to fill out physically (Justin Patton's situation), you're probably taking a redshirt to develop skills to even get playing time.

Further, I don't think pointing out high school accolades/pedigrees has a high correlation with college success in the way you implied.

That said, I hope Sacar is the needle-in-the-haystack.

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