Stan Johnson

[Aircraftcarrier]

Pay him as much as you have to.Do not lose him.

[Herman Cain]

Pay him as much as you have to.Do not lose him.

I agree with this analysis.

[jesmu84]

Pay him as much as you have to.Do not lose him.

What makes you say that today?

[Dawson Rental]

Pay him as much as you have to.Do not lose him.

You make it sound like MU picked him up on the cheap or doesn't show him the necessary respect.  Since MU came up with enough money and opportunity to convince him to leave Arizona State where he had been for two years and was the only assistant coach retained when Bobby Hurley got the job.  They got him to relocate his family and leave the west where he had always been to come to Milwaukee, so I'm guessing that he does alright.  Additionally, Wojo has said some great things about him.  So why the concern?

Why not give Wojo props for knowing great talent and doing what was necessay to get him here?

[Aircraftcarrier]

He is going to be in line for a Head coaching position at a mid Major soon.Pay him so that does not happen

[Golden Avalanche]

He is going to be in line for a Head coaching position at a mid Major soon.Pay him so that does not happen

There is no amount of money paid to an assistant coach that would be enough for the person to never leave to become a head coach.

[Silkk the Shaka]

There is no amount of money paid to an assistant coach that would be enough for the person to never leave to become a head coach.

Are you trying to tell me you wouldn't stay on as an assistant coach somewhere for a billion dollars? I certainly would.

[zrjones13]

There is no amount of money paid to an assistant coach that would be enough for the person to never leave to become a head coach.

I agree that there is no amount of money that you could pay a coach to never leave, but you can pay enough money to make the coach rethink taking a mid major coaching job.  There are lots of examples of well paid assistants that stuck with a program for a long time until they got a good head coaching job. 

[Dawson Rental]

He is going to be in line for a Head coaching position at a mid Major soon.Pay him so that does not happen

"The Only Thing That Is Constant Is Change -"


― Heraclitus

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I agree that there is no amount of money that you could pay a coach to never leave, but you can pay enough money to make the coach rethink taking a mid major coaching job.  There are lots of examples of well paid assistants that stuck with a program for a long time until they got a good head coaching job.

Wojo would be one of those.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I agree with this sentiment - let's at least pay him enough so he jumps to a good program if HC is his aspiration.

[Windyplayer]

Are you trying to tell me you wouldn't stay on as an assistant coach somewhere for a billion dollars? I certainly would.

I'd stay, brah.

[Jay Bee]

Those suits ain't cheap, ainner?

[Golden Avalanche]

Wojo would be one of those.

Wojo didn't sit next to K for 15 years because of his pay stub.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Wojo didn't sit next to K for 15 years because of his pay stub.

Yah, my point wasn't as much about is his paystub as it was that he stuck in an assistant coaching role for well over 10 years when undoubtedly he had the ability to get the head coaching job at low and mid major schools. 

He didn't make the jump until he had a ~ top 25 job offer.

[Lennys Tap]

Yah, my point wasn't as much about is his paystub as it was that he stuck in an assistant coaching role for well over 10 years when undoubtedly he had the ability to get the head coaching job at low and mid major schools. 

He didn't make the jump until he had a ~ top 25 job offer.

Breaks my heart to say it, but top 25 may be a bit of an overstatement.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Breaks my heart to say it, but top 25 may be a bit of an overstatement.

Yah, maybe a bit, but not much.  Hence the ~.

[Loose Cannon]

Yah, maybe a bit, but not much.  Hence the ~.

But better than Rick's STL program.

[brewcity77]

Breaks my heart to say it, but top 25 may be a bit of an overstatement.

I don't think so. We're not a top-25 team, but I think we're still a top-25 program. The luster hasn't all worn off yet.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't think so. We're not a top-25 team, but I think we're still a top-25 program. The luster hasn't all worn off yet.

Yep

[Dawson Rental]

Breaks my heart to say it, but top 25 may be a bit of an overstatement.

Has more resources available to the basketball program than anyone other school, except Duke.  Plays in an NBA arena.  Plays in a league that just sent seven of its ten teams to the NCAA tournament.  Gets a share of the best TV contract for basketball out there.  A top attendance team.  Feted by the members of MUScoop.

Yeah, I'm going top 25.

[MU82]

Stan seems like a smart guy. So does Wojo. I like to think Wojo/MU are taking care of Stan financially. And I like to think Stan is smart enough to be patient for a job that will give him a chance to succeed and eventually reach his biggest goals.

But lumping all mid-major head coaching jobs together as being not as good as being a major's assistant seems wrong, too.

For example, Dayton is a pretty good program. Wichita State - pretty good program. Butler, X and Creighton were labeled mid-major until they joined the BE (and some still call them that, albeit incorrectly) - pretty good programs.

If Marshall left Wichita State, I would leave most (if not all) assistant jobs to be their head coach if terms of my being hired suited me.

[StillAWarrior]

Has more resources available to the basketball program than anyone other school, except Duke.  Plays in an NBA arena.  Plays in a league that just sent seven of its ten teams to the NCAA tournament.  Gets a share of the best TV contract for basketball out there.  A top attendance team.  Feted by the members of MUScoop.

Yeah, I'm going top 25.

Stupid question, but is this a big selling point?  The reason I ask is because several of the articles I read about the Georgetown coaching search mentioned this as a negative.  Is the difference between the two the proximity of the arena to campus?  The quality of the arena?  Or is this a case of looking at the situation through "blue and gold colored glasses" and counting it as a selling point?  Not trying to be argumentative...I'm genuinely curious.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Stupid question, but is this a big selling point?  The reason I ask is because several of the articles I read about the Georgetown coaching search mentioned this as a negative.  Is the difference between the two the proximity of the arena to campus?  The quality of the arena?  Or is this a case of looking at the situation through "blue and gold colored glasses" and counting it as a selling point?  Not trying to be argumentative...I'm genuinely curious.

That's called Hoya Paranoia.

[brewcity77]

Stupid question, but is this a big selling point?  The reason I ask is because several of the articles I read about the Georgetown coaching search mentioned this as a negative.  Is the difference between the two the proximity of the arena to campus?  The quality of the arena?  Or is this a case of looking at the situation through "blue and gold colored glasses" and counting it as a selling point?  Not trying to be argumentative...I'm genuinely curious.

I think it can be a big selling point if used correctly. If you can tie the program to the NBA team, then it's a positive. Say you could get Bucks like Jabari Parker to swing by campus during a player visit, or score tickets to a NBA game for a recruit's visit and tell them "you'd be playing here", or simply show off the structure, I think it's a positive.

Now if you have them come for a visit when we're playing West Eastern State and the place is a mausoleum, or you don't adequately utlilize the sound and video board technology, or it's on the opposite side of town and not within walking distance (like the Silk Exotic Entertainment Center will be from Marquette) then it might be a negative.

All in the salesmanship.