Front page of NYT Online: MU bball nutrition

[GB Warrior]

We should aspire to ensure our student athletes receive a well-rounded education and know what qualifies as a good burger by the time they leave us. For Christ's sake, Markus is barely not 17 years old!

[mu03eng]

All, thanks for making Scoop great again!

[mu03eng]

Can we at least find some middle ground and go with burgers cooked Medium?

[Spotcheck Billy]

For the record, these contrarian jamokes are worried Markus getting a sub-par burger.

I am worried about Markus getting explosive diarrhea.   

SUPERBAR!

[jficke13]

In the article, I was not super enthused by the vegan catering thing. That's not going to get it done.

[MU82]

MU82,

But how do you season it? I  know a few guys that are firm believers of the salt and pepper only mentality. Personally, I think adding some ketchup and mustard to the ground beef before forming the patties helps add flavor and makes the burger juicier.

I found a great recipe for hamburger seasoning in a magazine many years ago and I've used it ever since. I don't put anything into the beef, but a minute or so before cooking, I sprinkle on a teaspoon or so of this concoction. It's a little spicy but not too much and it even has a hint of sweetness. Delish! I've run out a couple of times and been too lazy to make it right then and there, so McCormick makes a hamburger spice and I keep a little container of that handy.

[MU82]

Sounds great!  The only thing that I would add (which you probably do) is to form the patties when they are cold as hell.  Then cook them when they are room temp.  Also, the grill should be raging hot to put a nice sear on the exterior to hold the juices in as well... a nice rest (5-10) minutes afterwards helps as well!

I do form the patties cold and I do sit them on a plate on the kitchen counter for a bit while the grill is warming (medium-high heat, although I do turn it down a tad early in the process). I can't say I let the burgers get all the way to room temp, though.

And absolutely a nice rest. That goes for any beef. I make awesome steaks - ribeyes and NY strips are my faves - and I always let them rest 5-10.

I rarely order burgers or steak out. I like making them, they are delicious and they are a fraction of the price for great quality meat. I was with my son in Chicago last year. Went to Kuma's. We each had a burger and fries and 2 beers. With tax and tip, out the door just under a hundy! A freakin' hundy for burgers and a couple of beers! The burgers were great and the beer was fine, but come on!

[warriorchick]

I rarely order burgers or steak out. I like making them, they are delicious and they are a fraction of the price for great quality meat. I was with my son in Chicago last year. Went to Kuma's. We each had a burger and fries and 2 beers. With tax and tip, out the door just under a hundy! A freakin' hundy for burgers and a couple of beers! The burgers were great and the beer was fine, but come on!

Not to mention that your server likely resembled someone who didn't get hired at Hot Topic because they looked too scary.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

I will never forget my freshman year high school biology teacher, Mrs. Carlson. During a unit on parasites she mentioned one that you can get by eating contaminated bear meat and then interupted the lesson to say "this is why I never eat any meat that isn't extra-well done. Extra-extra-well done." She noticed me looking at her in horror and I said "I'd rather get that parasite than live my entire life never eating anything that tastes good."

This was one of many reasons she did not like me.

Growing up in didn't know anybody that had access to bear meat. If I had, it would have been medium rare.

[warriorchick]

Make fun of me, but I am just making sure the team is at 100% at gametime.

Admit it.  If it got announced out at 8:00 tonight and said that half of our players were out with food poisoning, there would be multiple
"Fire Wojo" threads on Scoop saying, "HOW DID HE LET THAT HAPPEN!?!"

[muwarrior69]

https://www.macheesmo.com/perfect-steak-tartare-at-home/

[forgetful]

The key is where the beef comes from.  Get food that's antibiotic, pesticide and hormone-free - meats, eggs, whatever - and you'll be fine. 

It's the mass market stuff filled with drugs and chemicals that get e coli, salmonella and other pathogens....

This couldn't be more false.  Antibiotics, pesticides etc. have nothing to do with whether ground beef gets contaminated. 

Ground beef gets contaminated because the machines used for grinding handling the ground beef is contaminated, because all the meat is exposed to air/material ground beef is more likely to be contaminated and it is then more prudent to heat it to a higher temperature. 

If butchered well you can eat the meat raw (beef tartare).  The MU players are right, Medium rare burgers are ideal...depending on location I may go with Medium though for safety sake.  Medium well are ruined.

[rocky_warrior]

Make fun of me, but I am just making sure the team is at 100% at gametime.

Thanks mom.

[forgetful]

Make fun of me, but I am just making sure the team is at 100% at gametime.

Admit it.  If it got announced out at 8:00 tonight and said that half of our players were out with food poisoning, there would be multiple
"Fire Wojo" threads on Scoop saying, "HOW DID HE LET THAT HAPPEN!?!"

Now I feel bad.  This is very logical.  Heck...make sure they are well done.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Make fun of me, but I am just making sure the team is at 100% at gametime.

Admit it.  If it got announced out at 8:00 tonight and said that half of our players were out with food poisoning, there would be multiple
"Fire Wojo" threads on Scoop saying, "HOW DID HE LET THAT HAPPEN!?!"

I don't know why people would be making fun of you - in fact this carelessness shows we need to expand the investigation -- Who can get a hold of Wojo's team hand washing protocol.

[GooooMarquette]

This couldn't be more false.  Antibiotics, pesticides etc. have nothing to do with whether ground beef gets contaminated. 

Ground beef gets contaminated because the machines used for grinding handling the ground beef is contaminated, because all the meat is exposed to air/material ground beef is more likely to be contaminated and it is then more prudent to heat it to a higher temperature. 

If butchered well you can eat the meat raw (beef tartare).  The MU players are right, Medium rare burgers are ideal...depending on location I may go with Medium though for safety sake.  Medium well are ruined.

If you had actually read what I wrote, you'd see that I was talking generally about foods, not just beef ("meat, eggs, whatever"), and I also said a key is where it comes from.  You added another factor - which just elaborates on where it comes from - but it does not in any way make my comments false.

RIF

[vogue65]

This has all the makings of the smoker debate from last summer.  It lasted all summer and set a record.
My concern is with the Rice Krispies.

[warriorchick]

Thanks mom.

And elbows off the table!

[GooooMarquette]

This has all the makings of the smoker debate from last summer.  It lasted all summer and set a record.
My concern is with the Rice Krispies.

I stayed out of that one 'cause I'm a non-smoker....

[forgetful]

If you had actually read what I wrote, you'd see that I was talking generally about foods, not just beef ("meat, eggs, whatever"), and I also said a key is where it comes from.  You added another factor - which just elaborates on where it comes from - but it does not in any way make my comments false.

RIF

As a person who has spent their entire life doing science, everything you write on this topic is pure pseudoscience with near zero basis in empirical data.  It is a pet peeve of mine...but I need to learn to let these things go as you are free to believe what you want to believe.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And elbows off the table!

I always questioned this. Maybe its because I'm tall with awkwardly short arms, but I can't get comfortable unless i put my elbows on the table or noticeably slouch. What's so bad about elbows on the table?

[LloydsLegs]

Who has been cooking for you?

Just checking back in--when it comes it to burgers, I'm the cook.  As my dad would say, rare towards walking.

[LloydsLegs]

Does anyone know more about the NCAA restrictions the article alluded to? It seems weird that the NCAA would care when or how much athletes eat, but then again, it's the NCAA, so you never know.

I don't know the exact rules, but there had been restrictions on training table type meals that were different than the student population as a whole

[mu03eng]

I don't know the exact rules, but there had been restrictions on training table type meals that were different than the student population as a whole

Rules exist in two vectors: impermissible benefits (higher quality or value meals than the student body at large) and competitive advantage ("doping")

[Hards Alumni]

As a person who has spent their entire life doing science, everything you write on this topic is pure pseudoscience with near zero basis in empirical data.  It is a pet peeve of mine...but I need to learn to let these things go as you are free to believe what you want to believe.

YUP!