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MU82

Quote from: tower912 on March 14, 2017, 07:16:28 AM
I disagree.  Would we as a fanbase want a coach with:
1. 10 NCAA  appearances in 18 years.
2.  One trip past the sweet sixteen.
3.  Multiple off court issues.

Pretty sure  there would be outrage.

Maybe. An awful lot of Scoopers wanted a "proven" coach such as Martin, who had accomplished little, or Howland, who had off-the-court issues. But you very well might have better insight into the average Scooper's mind than I do. I was just providing a conversation starter.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

To be fair, we are a whiny lot, and there would be outrage regardless of the hire.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

LAZER

Quote from: tower912 on March 13, 2017, 10:25:56 AM
I agree with the argument that this year's team was hamstrung by injuries.  IF Crean is fired (not convinced it will happen yet, though I acknowledge the strong possibility), I think Cronin is the leading candidate.
I think IU can do better than Cronin. I think they'll get a lot of interest.

wadesworld

Maybe Crean can be that veteran presence Scoopers hope Wojo will put on his bench to help him along the way, ai'na?

tower912

Cream is not a defensive genius.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GGGG

Quote from: LAZER on March 14, 2017, 08:14:26 AM
I think IU can do better than Cronin. I think they'll get a lot of interest.

Like who?  Cronin is a good coach.

GB Warrior

Crean sucks.

He gowne.

Tugg Speedman

IU lost at Georgia Tech in round 1 of the NIT.  Crean is on the clock. 

If he is still the IU head coach when we tip off Friday at 9PM he is probably safe for another season.

Agree?

tower912

#33
Quote from: LAZER on March 14, 2017, 08:14:26 AM
I think IU can do better than Cronin. I think they'll get a lot of interest.
Who is the hot mid-major coach this year?  I'm not sure there is one.    I think the number of coaches who would take the IU job AND who would satisfy the fan base is very small.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Cronin isnt a bad shout. I mean, I'd want to leave the AAC as soon as I could as well.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 15, 2017, 04:45:44 AM
IU lost at Georgia Tech in round 1 of the NIT.  Crean is on the clock. 

If he is still the IU head coach when we tip off Friday at 9PM he is probably safe for another season.

Agree?

Maybe, but I'd bet he's gone by the end of the day today.  I think the decision had already been made when IU voluntarily chose to play the NIT game at GT instead of IU.

LAZER

Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 14, 2017, 08:29:31 AM
Like who?  Cronin is a good coach.
I still believe IU is a very desirable job and can attract a big name(that's obviously up for debate). I also agree that Cronin is a good coach and you could put him right in the middle of this list so it might be splitting hairs, but this is how I would do it if I was IU...

Jay Wright - Not going to listen, but i would still put in a call
Sean Miller - might listen, but still probably not going to happen
Mark Few - might listen, but still probably not going to happen
Tony Bennett
Chris Mack
Dana Altman
Archie Miller
Scott Drew?
Greg Marshall?


4everwarriors

Wooden shock me if Alford rode back ta Bloomin'ton, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

JWags85

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 15, 2017, 07:30:19 AM
Cronin isnt a bad shout. I mean, I'd want to leave the AAC as soon as I could as well.

Cronin was basically ready to go to UNLV.  IU would be an absolute no brainer for him if he could get it.

Dr. Blackheart

#39
Bennett is going to a place who fired his sister?

marquette09

Got to figure this would be the job Greg Marshall would leave for. 

tower912

Replacing the one coach with a personality as disliked as his. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

It's about time for Lon Kruger to go lookin' for another job, no?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on March 15, 2017, 11:39:02 AM
It's about time for Lon Kruger to go lookin' for another job, no?

What's Larry Brown got going these days?

drewm88

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 15, 2017, 08:46:27 AM
Maybe, but I'd bet he's gone by the end of the day today.  I think the decision had already been made when IU voluntarily chose to play the NIT game at GT instead of IU.

What if it's the other way? They gave up the home game because they know they're keeping Crean another year and didn't want to showcase a half-empty stadium booing him mercilessly?

MU82

I think I read somewhere that Crean has a $4M buyout but that if IU waits until June 1 or some other late date, that goes down to $1M.

If IU wants to part with Crean, wouldn't it behoove both parties to settle somewhere in between?

IU should want to get its new coach in sooner rather than later, and Crean should want to get on the job market sooner rather than later. Maybe split the difference and say $2.5M, or if IU feels it has the leverage, $2M?

I'm not sure if things work that way or not in this biz. Just trying to think logically.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


tower912

One potential destination off of the table.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

DUNKS45

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2017, 09:17:31 AM
Wooden shock me if Alford rode back ta Bloomin'ton, hey?

+1

MU82

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 15, 2017, 02:35:07 PM
http://www.tomcreanbuyout.com/

There you go. I was off by a month.

BTW, why hasn't Holtmann's name surfaced? He's done a hell of a job at Butler, and he's right up the road!
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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