Best transfers in MU history

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dgies

Great back story on why Walter went to DePaul first. He was a true Warrior, even if he went to DePaul first.

PTM
Jamil belongs on the list. Maybe did not live up to expectations, but he was a very talented player.

I'll give you talent, massively talented. Great person too, just couldn't turn that into being a player.

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DB2,  good to see you on the scoop board.     My immersion in MU hoops began in 1984.    I knew MU was good prior, but I was young and wasn't obsessed with it in the 70's and early 80's, so I won't speak to transfers prior to 1984.
JUCO's:   Just about anybody Buzz landed with the exception of Fulce.   Benny Moore. Jamil Lott.
Grad Transfers:   We've only had 3.    Each had his virtues and I am grateful for all 3.   With a gun to my head, I would rank them Carlino, Katin, Lockett. 
Traditional transfers:    David Boone.    Robert Jackson.   Ron Curry.   Rowsey is creeping up the charts.  Luke Fischer
Transfers whose performance failed to equal the hype:   Mike Davis, Walter Downing, Jamil Wilson, Mike Kinsella, Dan Fitzgerald, Trend Blackledge.

On balance, MU has gained more than it has lost due to transfers.    If a separate thread was started about transfers out that hurt the team and went on to success elsewhere, I would say the most painful were Odartey, Jeronne (stupid dad), and Deonte. 

How have you forgotten the Mike Kinsella Game?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Always heard that if Odartey stayed, Marquette would have had a legitimate shot at a National Championship.

[Dr. Blackheart]

How have you forgotten the Mike Kinsella Game?

Or Jamil Lott for off the court.

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Or Jamil Lott for off the court.

Yeahhhhh.....

[muwarrior69]

DB2,  good to see you on the scoop board.     My immersion in MU hoops began in 1984.    I knew MU was good prior, but I was young and wasn't obsessed with it in the 70's and early 80's, so I won't speak to transfers prior to 1984.
JUCO's:   Just about anybody Buzz landed with the exception of Fulce.   Benny Moore. Jamil Lott.
Grad Transfers:   We've only had 3.    Each had his virtues and I am grateful for all 3.   With a gun to my head, I would rank them Carlino, Katin, Lockett. 
Traditional transfers:    David Boone.    Robert Jackson.   Ron Curry.   Rowsey is creeping up the charts.  Luke Fischer
Transfers whose performance failed to equal the hype:   Mike Davis, Walter Downing, Jamil Wilson, Mike Kinsella, Dan Fitzgerald, Trend Blackledge.

On balance, MU has gained more than it has lost due to transfers.    If a separate thread was started about transfers out that hurt the team and went on to success elsewhere, I would say the most painful were Odartey, Jeronne (stupid dad), and Deonte.

Not technically a transfer but Jim Chones going to the ABA potentially cost us a National Championship. I would have done the same thing as Jim, so not a criticism of him; just saying.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Yeahhhhh.....

Crean whiffed on his JUCOs, but it didn't certainly stop him from overhyping them when he whiffed on his high school targets and they were his fall backs.

[tower912]

Chones was before my time.   I am choosing to not comment on players I didn't see.     Kinsella had one good game in 2 years.   Another of Crean's mis-fires.     Jamil Lott off court?     I have not heard those legends/rumors. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Jamil Lott off court? I have not heard those legends/rumors.

http://www.marquette.edu/alumni/awards-2014/recipient_lott.php

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Crean whiffed on his JUCOs, but it didn't certainly stop him from overhyping them when he whiffed on his high school targets and they were his fall backs.

Lott was super jacked, I'll give Crean that?

I liked Marcus Jackson, just had to play point center too often.

[CreanLover]

in my time at MU, Walter Downing transferred from Depaul to MU....so much expectation for big Walter but we never made the tourney and if I recall he had pretty damaged knees and a bad back.   He was so highly touted out of high school though.    The two highlights I remember most were his sheer joy in the final moments at the MECCA when we beat DePaul and on senior night when he played the national anthem on bass guitar  (although that may have been a chemical induced hallucination on my part).

And I agree with prior posts...Boone was an absolute beast.

Downing had one leg that was shorter than the other, leading to back issues. Great player!

[wadesworld]

If we're talking Jamil Wilson, Matt Carlino, Trent Lockett, and Dan Fitzgerald I'll go ahead and guarantee Rowsey will end up with a better MU career than any of those guys.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

If we're talking Jamil Wilson, Matt Carlino, Trent Lockett, and Dan Fitzgerald I'll go ahead and guarantee Rowsey will end up with a better MU career than any of those guys.

Lockett was great because he filled a need. Great defender and rebounder from the wing. Two things we desperately needed that year.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Crean whiffed on his JUCOs, but it didn't certainly stop him from overhyping them when he whiffed on his high school targets and they were his fall backs.

Pretty sure Trend Blackledge still holds the NCAA record for Sportscenter Top 10 plays per 40 minutes.

The guy would play 30 sec of garbage time and have some sort of amazing dunk or blocked shot seemingly every time.

But I'll never get over the dropped pass in the final seconds against Notre Dame.  Would've had a wide open dunk to take the lead, capping a miraculous rally.

[GooooMarquette]

Always heard that if Odartey stayed, Marquette would have had a legitimate shot at a National Championship.

We actually had a pretty legitimate shot without him.

Regarding his transfer - we most definitely lost talent, but rumor was that he left because he thought he should he was an NBA talent who'd never get to show off his game if he wasn't a bigger focus of the offense than DWade.  In sum, we lost talent, but we may have benefitted in terms of team chemistry.

[Goose]

Rowsey is a great pick up.

[brewcity77]

Rowsey is a great pick up.

Yup. He had great numbers at UNC-A, but I wondered how well it would translate to this level. Definitely hasn't been an issue, and can't wait to see what he does next year now that he's had time to get comfortable at this level. Loved him ever since he got in Ben Simmons' face in Brooklyn last year.

[DavidBoone2inchesTaller]

I didn't see Rob Jax. Thanks for letting me know.

[DavidBoone2inchesTaller]

For anyone who is interested, below is a youtube link to a 'Quette vs. Lame. This game includes four transfers on our list. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3VjMRwchoA&t=113s

Walter Downing - No. 13
Kevin Johnson - No. 10
Benny Moore - No. 4
The Great - David Boone - No. 25

[4everwarriors]

Do Jucos count? I kinda see us as the next progression and those are not true transfers.

In order, I would argue the following:

1) Jim Boylan -- Another poster pointed out his importance to our 1977 team.

2) Ulice Payne --Underrated. Very good, strong power forward. Came from Miami of Ohio.

3) David Boone -- I agree with this one, but those teams never gelled the way they should have.

4) Walter Downing -- Never should have gone to DePaul. Hampered by injury but when he was "on", he was really on. I liked this guy and thought constantly, "what if..."

5) Robert Jackson -- Never would have made the Final Four without him!

UP transferred in from Ohio U., hey?

[jsglow]

Chones was before my time.   I am choosing to not comment on players I didn't see.     Kinsella had one good game in 2 years.   Another of Crean's mis-fires.     Jamil Lott off court?     I have not heard those legends/rumors.

Trust us.  Chones was one of the best players to ever put on a Marquette uniform.  They were a very serious national championship threat.

[Class71]

Goose is top 10 transfer.

So are you the real Goose from the good old Days?

[Class71]

Not technically a transfer but Jim Chones going to the ABA potentially cost us a National Championship. I would have done the same thing as Jim, so not a criticism of him; just saying.

Al also said he would have done the same. Typically Al thought it was a bad idea tonleave early but in Chones case the money was too good and his mom was washing floors so Al gave his blessing.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Al also said he would have done the same. Typically Al thought it was a bad idea tonleave early but in Chones case the money was too good and his mom was washing floors so Al gave his blessing.

Hell, Al was essentially his agent and Little Louie was the Nets coach. SJU to SJU deal.

[real chili 83]

For anyone who is interested, below is a youtube link to a 'Quette vs. Lame. This game includes four transfers on our list. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3VjMRwchoA&t=113s

Walter Downing - No. 13
Kevin Johnson - No. 10
Benny Moore - No. 4
The Great - David Boone - No. 25

Game with David Rivers....college basketball's answer to Nipsey Russell.