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GGGG

Paint Touches, et. al. descended on Rob Dauster (NBC's lead college basketball writer) like a swarm of locusts when he tried to minimize MU's top 50 win stat.

GGGG

To be fair, we are being a bit over-sensitive but whatever...

mu_hilltopper



amen426

Paint Touches got owned.

Kind of embarrassing, but at least he patched it up some self-deprecation at the end.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Wow, Dauster is kind of douche.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


PaintTouches

I PMd and he apologized. He's a real great guy. Tough when you get bombarded unexpectedly.

But make no doubt about it, he was wrong.   

bradley center bat

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 04, 2017, 05:29:55 PM
Wow, Dauster is kind of douche.
I hear him on sirius xm. Kind'va a dry guy.

LAZER

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 04, 2017, 05:29:55 PM
Wow, Dauster is kind of douche.
I don't think anything he said was douchey or inaccurate.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: LAZER on March 04, 2017, 05:45:01 PM
I don't think anything he said was douchey or inaccurate.
He said sh*t
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

amen426

Eh. He wasn't wrong, he just skewed the stats.

He talked about "top 45 wins" in his statement (instead of top 50). Which excluded our wins vs. Seton, Vandy, and Georgia..

Also, when referencing Creighton/Xavier, he said Creighton and Xavier were 5-7 and 4-6 after the PG injuries. Which is accurate.

But you missed a big point of rebuttal...The ONLY loss out of those 13 during that span to a non-tournament team was to Georgetown... Over 5 weeks ago. The remaining 12 were to Providence, Nova, Marquette, Seton Hall, Butler (and Xavier for Creighton).

Those are all tough games. Not BAD losses.

But at the end of the day.. His points were valid. We've had tremendous luck with scheduling, at the expense of Creighton and Xavier.

But there's no need to get in an argument saying that Rob called them bad wins (which he didn't). Just call them out for being misleading with their #'s. 

GB Warrior

Rob's been selling MU's resume short down the stretch in the times we've come up. Think he'll be wrong come selection dynasty

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: amen426 on March 04, 2017, 05:54:00 PM
Eh. He wasn't wrong, he just skewed the stats.

He talked about "top 45 wins" in his statement (instead of top 50). Which excluded our wins vs. Seton, Vandy, and Georgia..

Also, when referencing Creighton/Xavier, he said Creighton and Xavier were 5-7 and 4-6 after the PG injuries. Which is accurate.

But you missed a big point of rebuttal...The ONLY loss out of those 13 during that span to a non-tournament team was to Georgetown... Over 5 weeks ago. The remaining 12 were to Providence, Nova, Marquette, Seton Hall, Butler (and Xavier for Creighton).

Those are all tough games. Not BAD losses.

But at the end of the day.. His points were valid. We've had tremendous luck with scheduling, at the expense of Creighton and Xavier.

But there's no need to get in an argument saying that Rob called them bad wins (which he didn't). Just call them out for being misleading with their #'s.

It's still playing with numbers to support a narrative. Not our fault that we played teams short handed. We still had to take care of business.

🏀

Like Paint Touches said, he moved the goalposts for his narrative.

And he was a douche about it, he wasn't wrong, but that's how sports writers work.

LAZER

Quote from: PTM on March 04, 2017, 06:02:56 PM
Like Paint Touches said, he moved the goalposts for his narrative.

And he was a douche about it, he wasn't wrong, but that's how sports writers work.
If his overall point was correct, what's the problem?

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: LAZER on March 04, 2017, 06:07:13 PM
If his overall point was correct, what's the problem?

He is cherry picking.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

T-Bone

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 04, 2017, 05:57:39 PM
Rob's been selling MU's resume short down the stretch in the times we've come up. Think he'll be wrong come selection dynasty
I like the typo.
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

cheebs09

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 04, 2017, 06:00:35 PM
It's still playing with numbers to support a narrative. Not our fault that we played teams short handed. We still had to take care of business.

We lost players too. Not nearly at the level of Xavier or Creighton, but Carter was thought to be our starting pg.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 04, 2017, 06:57:50 PM
We lost players too. Not nearly at the level of Xavier or Creighton, but Carter was thought to be our starting pg.

Well, as much as I love Traci, that changed rather quickly.

MuMark

Because you could do that with lots of teams who have less convincing resumes then we do.

Top 45 isn't a thing......because if it is then Wisconsin is in trouble. I mean at least we beat those  teams and beat them easily. UW lost at home to Northwestern without their best player.....they got blown out at Michigan State which just lost 1 of their best players.

They have 2 top 50 wins all year.

Everybody is talking up Vandy now that they beat Florida for the 2nd time.....we killed hem

Everybody assumes that Arkansas is safely in. Well they beat Georgia today without their best player. They gave 3 top 50 wins and 1 of them is UTA.....

I could almost understand it if we barely beat Creighton and X but we easily won those games......and we looked damn good doing it......

Ps Vandy is now at 45 in the RPI so Robb has to include them in his new made up metric.





MUDPT

He reiterated it in his column today. Whatever. All 4 x and CU games weren't close. I'm not sure what else Marquette could have done in those games.

Shout out to Jaybee who called him out on his crap on Twitter .

Mr. Sand-Knit

Im afraid he may be correct, its been horrible but literally everybteam we are battling with has won.  If the commitee sees it the way some do we could be incredibly didappointed next sunday.  Its been crazy but between wake, vandy, the BE teams n on n on all of our peers have won n done us no favors. Unfortunately our rpi is not great. I still see seton hall as a game we best win.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

🏀

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 05, 2017, 09:07:48 AM
Im afraid he may be correct, its been horrible but literally everybteam we are battling with has won.  If the commitee sees it the way some do we could be incredibly didappointed next sunday.  Its been crazy but between wake, vandy, the BE teams n on n on all of our peers have won n done us no favors. Unfortunately our rpi is not great. I still see seton hall as a game we best win.

He is correct, that is not debatable. But he's gerrymandering a bad statistic. The committee doesn't look at your Top 50, they look at the record.

MU is a lock. The RPI is fine now.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

I am not concerned with any one bracketologist.  Whether it is Lunardi, Palm, or Dauster, etc., individuals are very poor at predicting the s-curve.

Crowd wisdom is much better at predicting it.  Bracketmatrix is far more likely to be correct.

Plus, our profile projects very well compared to last year's bracket.

I'm hoping to post a longer analysis later tonight.  I'm going to use RPI wizard to project various scenarios and crosscheck last year's profiles.  That should give us a good idea of what seed we'll get.

Right now I project us as a 10.  Win BET , and we're a 6.  I'll give a more thorough breakdown later, including everything in between.

shoothoops

True story.

Paint Touches blocked me on twitter a year or two ago because I politely but respectfully disagreed with their opinion about a topic I don't even remember. Pretty funny. That has never happened before or since with anyone else. It was bizzarre.

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