Epic Collapse Signifies Poor Coaching - Wojo Embraces Inconsistency Again

[tower912]

Okay? Still not seeing your point. Someone else step up then, you dont have to rely on people just because they're older. How are the womens team so successful with a team entirely composed of Sophomores then?

I unnatural carnal knowledgeing hate the term senior leadership. Its a silly cliche, its so much more dependent on the individual player than their age.

Hate away.   Look, 'senior leadership' is a thing whether you like it or not.    And it is something that this team hasn't consistently received.   Of course, it isn't the only thing.    And yes, talent is very important, too.   And sometimes, the seniors are leading correctly but just aren't very good.   (Derrick, Juan)

Let's go back a few years.   Who was more physically gifted when he arrived at MU, Jamil, Jimmy, Lazar, or Jae?     Which of these 4 won games during their senior year through will and toughness?    Which of these 4 improved themselves at MU and raised up their teammates as a senior?     Which played out of position but was mentally and physically tougher than their opponent and through their own senior leadership got their entire team to overachieve?     And which one, with a chance to take a game winning shot, passed the ball to Derrick Wilson?

It is a thing.    It is not the only thing and sometimes it isn't the biggest thing.    But to discount it entirely is willfully choose to ignore something that can be very important.   

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Who said it was about leadership?  I demonstrated the ability portion in my first post.  *Sigh*  This shouldn't even be an argument.  You're arguing that this MU team would be better now than if they were all seniors.  Dear lord.....

I tend to not read your posts very often mate. Don't want those double digit IQ points dropping into the single digits now.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I'd still like to know why the Marquettes women's team is good than Brew. I mean he'll, their senior barely does anything. Surely they must have like 5 wins this year right?

That Tyus Jones and Anthony Davis. Really too bad they didn't have a senior leader. Maybe then they could have won a national championship.

In this day and age of college basketball it simply isn't as important as you make it out to be.

[tower912]

A thing.   Not the only thing.   Also, in reality, as much as I enjoy watching women's college basketball (and I do), there is UConn and everybody else.     MU is improved in a weakish league.    They will probably make their tournament.       MU men are slightly improved in a meat-grinder league and are lacking size and leadership.   

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I'd still like to know why the Marquettes women's team is good than Brew. I mean he'll, their senior barely does anything. Surely they must have like 5 wins this year right?

Seems to be because talent trumps experience.

However experienced moderate to highly talented players is what most strive for because only a handful of teams can attract the number of one-and-dones to consistently win with an in-experienced team.

I would also argue that good coaching can overcome inexperience - but that is a whole other thread I imagine.

[T-Bone]

I actually saw some development in Heldt and Rowsey.  Howard is a talent, but I haven't seen the development in Hauser, and I am wondering about Johnson and Cheatham?

Heldt - 2nd year player, naturally going to improve.  Especially a soft big kid who doesnt have enough muscle for his frame. Skills are there, just having time to bulk up will be invaluable.
Rowsey - hadn't played against live teams for over a year.  Understandably would make sense to take time to adapt.
Hauser - Are you watching his whole game or just his 3pt percentage?
Johnson - Senior probably a bit too set in his ways. Still love to watch him play.
Cheatham - Has become a better defensive player, but has lost some confidence.  I think he'll have people eating their hats by the end of his career.

[Lennys Tap]

This year's league has suffered two major injuries to two top teams (Creighton and Xavier) when they were both top 15 in the country and that has dropped them as a result.

This is good point. Before the injuries to Watson, Sumner and Bluiett, this year's Big East would rival the Big East of 2009-10.

But without those injuries, MU would likely have been 1-3 or 0-4 vs Creighton and Xavier, meaning we would have finished the season 7-11 or 6-12.

[Uncertain]

Hah.  You need to drop it.  Brew is anything but passionless.  You don't get that many posts here by being passionless.  I'm certain he wants MU to make the NCAA this year, we all do. Except maybe you because you say we don't deserve it?

But he also understands we didn't make the NIT last year.  If we make it this year, that is the very definition of progress.  Not the progress any of us were hoping for, but progress nonetheless.

Everything else is you just spouting nonsense.

The NIT is progress??

[🏀]

The NIT is progress??

Damn you people, go back to your shanties.

[GGGG]

The NIT is progress??

Did they make the post season last year?

[Uncertain]

Did they make the post season last year?

No. And there is a possibility they will miss it again this season.

Some may view the participating in the NIT as progress. I do not. The NIT is taking your sister to the prom. And as beautiful as my sisters are the very thought of such an eventuality is hateful.

[GGGG]

No. And there is a possibility they will miss it again this season.

Some may view the participating in the NIT as progress. I do not. The NIT is taking your sister to the prom. And as beautiful as my sisters are the very thought of such an eventuality is hateful.

The NIT after three seasons of no post season is progress.  It may not be enough progress for you, and that's fine, but it most certainly is progress.

[skianth16]

The NIT after three seasons of no post season is progress.  It may not be enough progress for you, and that's fine, but it most certainly is progress.

Depending on which week of this roller coaster season you look at, sometimes making the NIT feels like progress, and sometimes it feels like failure. This is a team that has shown it is talented enough to not only qualify but compete in the NCAA's. Unfortunately, we have this nasty habit of blowing second half leads and losing games we should have won. Because these are the kinds of performances that will in all likelihood lead to an NIT berth (in a weak bubble year), the NIT feels like it isn't really a step in the right direction.

[bilsu]

I just do not see criticizing Hauser. He was asked to play out of position and I have never seen him dog it. He is very similar to Novak in that he will not take a bad three point shot. There was only one time that I remember his shot not hitting the rim. He missed a wide open three by a mile in one game. However, that was right after he took a hard fall on the other end and I figure he must of got his bell rung and said nothing about it. He takes only good shots and those are hard to come by when players like JJJ and Reinhardt continually jack up shots. He will finish in the top 10 in rebound average for an MU freshmen and he will finish second to Howard and three point shots made by a freshmen. That is a pretty good freshmen year.

[GGGG]

Depending on which week of this roller coaster season you look at, sometimes making the NIT feels like progress, and sometimes it feels like failure. This is a team that has shown it is talented enough to not only qualify but compete in the NCAA's. Unfortunately, we have this nasty habit of blowing second half leads and losing games we should have won. Because these are the kinds of performances that will in all likelihood lead to an NIT berth (in a weak bubble year), the NIT feels like it isn't really a step in the right direction.

I understand where you are coming from.  Expectations changed when we beat Nova.

[Herman Cain]

No. And there is a possibility they will miss it again this season.

Some may view the participating in the NIT as progress. I do not. The NIT is taking your sister to the prom. And as beautiful as my sisters are the very thought of such an eventuality is hateful.

I think it is more like your step sister. Not the most desirable person to go with , but if You win it ( equal to both getting drunk and losing carnal inhibition) then it can be a good thing that came from bad.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think it is more like your step sister. Not the most desirable person to go with , but if You win it ( equal to both getting drunk and losing carnal inhibition) then it can be a good thing that came from bad.

Getting your step sister drunk to have sex with her is a good thing?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I think it is more like your step sister. Not the most desirable person to go with , but if You win it ( equal to both getting drunk and losing carnal inhibition) then it can be a good thing that came from bad.

WTF? You've lost it

[MUDPT]

We will win a game in the next couple of weeks within one possession and everyone will scream: "what grit, maybe they've learned something, etc.", when really it's just regression to the mean.  It sucks that we keep losing these close games, but the bigger question is whether we should be in one possession games with Providence and Seton Hall. 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I think it is more like your step sister. Not the most desirable person to go with , but if You win it ( equal to both getting drunk and losing carnal inhibition) then it can be a good thing that came from bad.

You, Sir, have made scoop takes yet again. They should just change it to MUFINY Takes.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I think it is more like your step sister. Not the most desirable person to go with , but if You win it ( equal to both getting drunk and losing carnal inhibition) then it can be a good thing that came from bad.

Performance Art

[4everwarriors]

Gotta believe Uncertain 'cuz he's a fine, upstandin' dude who has a bright future and wood never do such a thin', ai na?

[Newsdreams]

You, Sir, have made scoop takes yet again. They should just change it to MUFINY Takes.

Not only that but their conversation about sister/stepsister made it as a screen shot so that would be double bonus points there vogue started strong but faded. It is now Fanny and Dean. Who will get the coveted scoop takes tittle by the end of the season?

[connie]

I think it is more like your step sister. Not the most desirable person to go with , but if You win it ( equal to both getting drunk and losing carnal inhibition) then it can be a good thing that came from bad.

I can honestly say that the thought of equating the NIT with having sex with my sister or my step-sister never entered my mind.

[GGGG]

I can honestly say that the thought of equating the NIT with having sex with my sister or my step-sister never entered my mind.

But if it *did* cross your mind, what would that be like?

(Asking for a friend.)