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muguru

I can't take anymore of this the rest of the year...I need to step away the rest of the year and just hope for the best. I'm just so emotionally done at this point.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

NickelDimer

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 05:39:41 PM
Main issues for me....

Where was Duane in the 2nd?

Howard' has to have the ball on the last possession.
Add to that... why such limited use of the extended zone??
No Finish Line

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 25, 2017, 05:40:49 PM
Add to that... why such limited use of the extended zone??

Good point.

B. McBannerson

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 25, 2017, 05:40:49 PM
Add to that... why such limited use of the extended zone??

Extended zone doesn't work so well when your centers are in deep foul trouble.  Zones mean rebounding suffers, even worse when in foul trouble.

jaygall31

Quote from: muguru on February 25, 2017, 05:40:24 PM
I can't take anymore of this the rest of the year...I need to step away the rest of the year and just hope for the best. I'm just so emotionally done at this point.

Agreed
It's not about ME,
It's about US.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

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Quote from: Shark on February 25, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
What did JJJ do wrong?

He was horrible. Got stripped of the ball multiple times. Drove to the hoops with 20 seconds on the clock and took an ill advised shot or poor pass multiple times in the last 5 minutes. We needed him to step up, and he took a crap.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

NickelDimer

Quote from: 4or5yearstojudge on February 25, 2017, 05:42:20 PM
Extended zone doesn't work so well when your centers are in deep foul trouble.  Zones mean rebounding suffers, even worse when in foul trouble.
Our big men got killed against man because we couldn't stop penetration
No Finish Line

Smokin' Jae

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 25, 2017, 05:39:41 PM
Main issues for me....

Where was Duane in the 2nd?

Howard' has to have the ball on the last possession.
This is the issue for me, I said to a buddy of mine I was watching with that there is no way in hell the best shooter in all of college basketball does not touch the ball here, unnatural carnal knowledge

jaygall31

Quote from: ecompt on February 25, 2017, 05:24:59 PM
Someone tell me again how much we're going to miss the seniors. Biggest game of the year, and they didn't show up. Maybe they'll show up for the NIT.

We wont miss them.  Not even a little. SOFT!!!!
It's not about ME,
It's about US.

mayfairskatingrink

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2017, 05:32:48 PM
Trying to figure out how Wojo didn't make a shot for 8 min?

It would have been a risk, but I think Wojo needed to put Howard back in the game much earlier.  You could sense the offense stagnating and the players getting really nervous.

And Wojo has shown that once his team loses momentum near the end of a game, he is incapable of righting the ship.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Blueprint on February 25, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
I disagree. I think our chances to dance are pipe dreams at this point,and we need a point guard
with some size and a coach that can teach Defense

This loss sucks, no doubt. But to say our chances to dance are a pipe dream proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Mr. Sand-Knit

I dont think Wojo is the next Wooden but there is no way in heck this is on Wojo. 
Up 12 we had a ton of good looks, hauser misses a 4 footer unguarded, missses a layup n gets fouled, and has a 3 rattle out.  Rinehardt misses 2-3 less than 6 footers, howard has a 3 rattle in and out, jjj misses 2 12 footers n an uncontested layup. 
Then we have literally no true 4 on the squad and bith 5s are fouled out. 
Not gonna say the players choked bt if they hit a shot or two and they win.  And they were theowing bigs at the rim defended by our guards.  Its unfortunate and really really sucks but not sure what else Wojo could have done
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 05:46:25 PM
I dont think Wojo is the next Wooden but there is no way in heck this is on Wojo. 
Up 12 we had a ton of good looks, hauser misses a 4 footer unguarded, missses a layup n gets fouled, and has a 3 rattle out.  Rinehardt misses 2-3 less than 6 footers, howard has a 3 rattle in and out, jjj misses 2 12 footers n an uncontested layup. 
Then we have literally no true 4 on the squad and bith 5s are fouled out. 
Not gonna say the players choked bt if they hit a shot or two and they win.  And they were theowing bigs at the rim defended by our guards.  Its unfortunate and really really sucks but not sure what else Wojo could have done

I agree with the MrSK that doesn't just hate on Luke.

Smokin' Jae

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 05:46:25 PM
I dont think Wojo is the next Wooden but there is no way in heck this is on Wojo. 
Up 12 we had a ton of good looks, hauser misses a 4 footer unguarded, missses a layup n gets fouled, and has a 3 rattle out.  Rinehardt misses 2-3 less than 6 footers, howard has a 3 rattle in and out, jjj misses 2 12 footers n an uncontested layup. 
Then we have literally no true 4 on the squad and bith 5s are fouled out. 
Not gonna say the players choked bt if they hit a shot or two and they win.  And they were theowing bigs at the rim defended by our guards.  Its unfortunate and really really sucks but not sure what else Wojo could have done
The problem I see is that after every single one of these monumental collapses we say this isn't on wojo it's on the players pissing down their own legs. Well, at some point in time, a well coached team will start to make some winning plays down the stretch, that doesn't happen here. Just sayin'.

Mr. Sand-Knit

This game tho is a perfect illustration of how badly our seniors have let us down.  Seniors with mental and physical toughness will their teams to wins.  Our seniors, i believe without fail, have wilted in these situations time after time this year.  If one looks at all our heartbreaking losses this year, our seniors have either been the reason or been no where to be found.  Really unfortunate but they simply are not winners. 
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 05:53:35 PM
This game tho is a perfect illustration of how badly our seniors have let us down.  Seniors with mental and physical toughness will their teams to wins.  Our seniors, i believe without fail, have wilted in these situations time after time this year.  If one looks at all our heartbreaking losses this year, our seniors have either been the reason or been no where to be found.  Really unfortunate but they simply are not winners.

Not a great game for them admittedly, but your obsession with them is really odd. Did they double team your missus or something?

mayfairskatingrink

Quote from: Smokin' Jae on February 25, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
The problem I see is that after every single one of these monumental collapses we say this isn't on wojo it's on the players pissing down their own legs. Well, at some point in time, a well coached team will start to make some winning plays down the stretch, that doesn't happen here. Just sayin'.

I agree.

And it wasn't like Providence went into a furious press and caused 3 straight turnovers and hit a bunch of 3's to close the game in a minute.  This was a slow collapse where the air was leaking out of the balloon slowly but surely over the last five minutes and either Wojo doesn't know what to do or the players are just not mentally tough and no matter what Wojo tells them, they can't execute due to nerves.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Smokin' Jae on February 25, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
The problem I see is that after every single one of these monumental collapses we say this isn't on wojo it's on the players pissing down their own legs. Well, at some point in time, a well coached team will start to make some winning plays down the stretch, that doesn't happen here. Just sayin'.

Players gotta make plays, those games are often reffered to as "senior games".  Where ur seniors carry the team.  Ours disappear of screw up continuously.  They are mental marshmallows it suck but they disappear and then its freshamn and sophomores trying to do what our seniors cant
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

NickelDimer

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 25, 2017, 05:57:10 PM
Players gotta make plays, those games are often reffered to as "senior games".  Where ur seniors carry the team.  Ours disappear of screw up continuously.  They are mental marshmallows it suck but they disappear and then its freshamn and sophomores trying to do what our seniors cant
If you think wojo didn't fail as a coach today you're nuts. That's not to say the collapse is entirely on him, but he failed today
No Finish Line

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 25, 2017, 05:55:26 PM
Not a great game for them admittedly, but your obsession with them is really odd. Did they double team your missus or something?

Not at all. But all the complaining and gnashing of teeth and blaming wojo and looking for blame when all one needs to do is look at our seniors.  A team is only as good as its seniors.  I keep bringing it up because people keep trying to figure out why we lose or find blame.  When its incredibly simple.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Anyone still think Fischer is better than Heldt?
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: NickelDimer on February 25, 2017, 05:59:05 PM
If you think wojo didn't fail as a coach today you're nuts. That's not to say the collapse is entirely on him, but he failed today

To be fair, the whole team failed today.  A game that should have been won. 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Smokin' Jae on February 25, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
The problem I see is that after every single one of these monumental collapses we say this isn't on wojo it's on the players pissing down their own legs. Well, at some point in time, a well coached team will start to make some winning plays down the stretch, that doesn't happen here. Just sayin'.

It's on the players and the coach.

How about earlier in the game when we had a 9-10 point lead and Rowsey tries to inbound it off the defenders backside and Katin fires up an awful shot on the next trip down?  Those hurt too.

1SE

This brings the count of losses after double-digit, under 10 minutes leads to what - 4 now? Sickening.
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

CTWarrior

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 25, 2017, 06:02:59 PM
To be fair, the whole team failed today.  A game that should have been won.

This is the truest thing written in any of these threads.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

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