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Author Topic: MLB 2017 Season  (Read 270004 times)

Vander Blue Man Group

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1775 on: October 19, 2017, 09:45:05 AM »
If that were my team, I would have gone ballistic. Horribly egregious call. A fail-mary level (in terms of severity of the miss, not magnitude of impact) call that the Cubs should be thankful didn't cost them.

I know it's not reviewable, and that will almost certainly change this offseason. I cannot for the life of me figure out why the home plate umpire, who is in perfect position to see and makes the right call, allows himself to be overruled. I thought the announcers did a great job of explaining exactly what the ump is looking for and why the home plate should be the one to make the call.

Once I saw them talking for more than 15 seconds I started getting really worried they were going to actually change the call.  It's mind boggling.  Maddon was pretty direct and forceful when discussing it afterwards and actually said one of the reasons they gave him for changing the call was someone heard "two different sounds" or something of that nature.  Just unreal. 

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1776 on: October 19, 2017, 10:10:37 AM »
It was very bad, no good call .... which ultimately had no effect on the outcome of the game.
And, if we're being honest, the worst call of the night was Dave Roberts' decision to start Chase Utley and Curtis Granderson. That actually had an impact on the result.
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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1777 on: October 19, 2017, 10:29:21 AM »


I know it's not reviewable, and that will almost certainly change this offseason. I cannot for the life of me figure out why the home plate umpire, who is in perfect position to see and makes the right call, allows himself to be overruled.

He is in the best position to hear if the ball hits the bat - not so much to see.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1778 on: October 19, 2017, 10:30:48 AM »
You're right - I am being unreasonable.

Yeah totally.  I'm glad you see that now.  In other news the RF umpire will be making all calls at 3rd base tonight.

Even I was glad when Granderson Kd on the next pitch.
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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1779 on: October 19, 2017, 12:00:30 PM »
I'm not sure I've ever seen a more egregious umpiring decision than that "foul tip" call in the top of the 8th.

Whats worse is that Rizzo actually did tip a ball in the 6th (?) and the ump called him out without any appeal.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1780 on: October 19, 2017, 12:23:17 PM »
I like Brian Anderson, but I worried I was losing my mind. He made it sound like it hit him when it clearly looked like it was off his bat.

buckchuckler

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1781 on: October 19, 2017, 01:11:31 PM »
Whats worse is that Rizzo actually did tip a ball in the 6th (?) and the ump called him out without any appeal.

I think that is much more understandable than having an OF ump make a ball/strike call.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1782 on: October 19, 2017, 01:33:40 PM »
I like Brian Anderson, but I worried I was losing my mind. He made it sound like it hit him when it clearly looked like it was off his bat.

I like Brian Anderson, but I think he's been bad this series. As has the production work--seems like a lot of bad cuts and the like. Ron Darling being bad is a given.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1783 on: October 19, 2017, 01:43:45 PM »
Boy, hard to bet against the Yanks at this point.  They will get Verlander, but they counter with Severino, along with that bullpen which is just unreal.  Even with Betances unable to get anyone out, they have been dominant. 

Great start by Tanaka tonight.  He killed my fantasy team this year in the first half, but he has been himself ever since.


..and that trade with the White Sox is really paying off.

GB Warrior

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1784 on: October 19, 2017, 02:16:11 PM »
Whats worse is that Rizzo actually did tip a ball in the 6th (?) and the ump called him out without any appeal.

I thought if you swing thru, you sacrificed hit batter protection. Could be wrong.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1785 on: October 19, 2017, 02:28:16 PM »
I thought if you swing thru, you sacrificed hit batter protection. Could be wrong.

Hmmm? It hit his bat.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1786 on: October 19, 2017, 04:47:10 PM »
Hmmm? It hit his bat.

I must be thinking of the wrong play, where he swung and the pitch hit him. Or I was not paying good enough attention.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1787 on: October 19, 2017, 06:00:27 PM »
I must be thinking of the wrong play, where he swung and the pitch hit him. Or I was not paying good enough attention.

That's where Brian Anderson said it hit him, but the replay showed it hit his bat.

buckchuckler

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1788 on: October 19, 2017, 08:10:05 PM »
So, Kershaw is 99-1 after receiving at least 4 runs of support.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1789 on: October 19, 2017, 09:54:48 PM »
So, Kershaw is 99-1 after receiving at least 4 runs of support.

100-1

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1790 on: October 19, 2017, 09:58:08 PM »
My Cubbie-fan son texted from Chicago to say "the White Sox foisted Quintana on us." My son's a Curb fan, too!
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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1791 on: October 19, 2017, 10:11:51 PM »
My Cubbie-fan son texted from Chicago to say "the White Sox foisted Quintana on us." My son's a Curb fan, too!

When someone named Kiki ends up with almost as many RBI in one game (7) as the Cubs had in the entire series (8), Jose Quintana is not the problem.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1792 on: October 19, 2017, 10:24:49 PM »
Fork

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1793 on: October 20, 2017, 07:25:57 AM »
When someone named Kiki ends up with almost as many RBI in one game (7) as the Cubs had in the entire series (8), Jose Quintana is not the problem.


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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1794 on: October 20, 2017, 12:52:56 PM »
Dusty's gone in Washington...supposedly against the GM's wishes. Could be an interesting off-season for the Nats.

buckchuckler

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1795 on: October 20, 2017, 06:41:10 PM »
Dusty's gone in Washington...supposedly against the GM's wishes. Could be an interesting off-season for the Nats.

They have the weirdest thing with managers.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1796 on: October 20, 2017, 08:36:20 PM »
They have the weirdest thing with managers.

Both Brad Asmus, (recently fired) and Dave Martinez (Maddon's bench coach for a decade), interviewed for the Nationals gig when Matt Williams got it.

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1797 on: October 20, 2017, 09:05:06 PM »
Verlander does Verlander things on Friday.

Bump.
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buckchuckler

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Re: MLB 2017 Season
« Reply #1798 on: October 20, 2017, 09:22:04 PM »
Hey look!  The best offensive team in baseball found their bats!

Verlander has been unreal, which as Tower indicated, is unsurprising. 

I still think the Yanks have the advantage in a game 7.  I think that bullpen gives them a distinct edge (thought I kind of hope I am wrong...).  The Yanks may well end up in the WS because of their trade with the Sox.  Kahnle and Robertson have been indispensable, especially in light of the struggles of Betances. 

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« Reply #1799 on: October 20, 2017, 11:32:56 PM »
Cheering hard for my adopted Astros. Would be a great story for them to win the Series after Harvey. Plus, how can anyone cheer for the evil empires that are the Yankees and Dodgers against the upstart Astros?
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