MLB 2017 Season

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Maybe if it was 1 of their 5 starters.  All 5?  Hmm...

[TallTitan34]

Every Cubs starter lost 1-3 MPH on his fastball this season. Hmm...

[wadesworld]

Me too.  If you could show me any other time in the history of baseball that every single starter saw their velocity decrease from one season to the next I will stop laughing.

I'll wait.

[MerrittsMustache]

Me too.  If you could show me any other time in the history of baseball that every single starter saw their velocity decrease from one season to the next I will stop laughing.

I'll wait.

[MUBurrow]

Me too.  If you could show me any other time in the history of baseball that every single starter saw their velocity decrease from one season to the next I will stop laughing.

I'll wait.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Me too.  If you could show me any other time in the history of baseball that every single starter saw their velocity decrease from one season to the next I will stop laughing.

I'll wait.

[🏀]

Maybe if it was 1 of their 5 starters.  All 5?  Hmm...

[wadesworld]

+1.  Hmm...

[TallTitan34]

Me too.  If you could show me any other time in the history of baseball that every single starter saw their velocity decrease from one season to the next I will stop laughing.

I'll wait.

[MUBBau]

Me too.  If you could show me any other time in the history of baseball that every single starter saw their velocity decrease from one season to the next I will stop laughing.

I'll wait.

[LAZER]

Me too.  If you could show me any other time in the history of baseball that every single starter saw their velocity decrease from one season to the next I will stop laughing.

I'll wait.

Just shows how much adversity those guys overcame.  To lose all that velocity and compete at that age and still win the division...impressive.

[muwarrior69]

Maybe we should rename this thread CUBS 2017 Season

[wadesworld]

Just shows how much adversity those guys overcame.  To lose all that velocity and compete at that age and still win the division...impressive.

Yeah what great adversity they overcame to win a division in which their payroll is $34 million more than the 2nd highest payroll in the division.  A measly $100 million more than the team that is in second place in the division.  Unbelievable the type of adversity they had to overcome this year to win the NL Central.

[LAZER]

Yeah what great adversity they overcame to win a division in which their payroll is $34 million more than the 2nd highest payroll in the division.  A measly $100 million more than the team that is in second place in the division.  Unbelievable the type of adversity they had to overcome this year to win the NL Central.

That drastic velocity drop is unprecedented though! Name me a team that saw that type of drop in velocity AND still went on to win the division.

[MerrittsMustache]

Yeah what great adversity they overcame to win a division in which their payroll is $34 million more than the 2nd highest payroll in the division.  A measly $100 million more than the team that is in second place in the division.  Unbelievable the type of adversity they had to overcome this year to win the NL Central.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Yeah what great adversity they overcame to win a division in which their payroll is $34 million more than the 2nd highest payroll in the division.  A measly $100 million more than the team that is in second place in the division.  Unbelievable the type of adversity they had to overcome this year to win the NL Central.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Just shows how much adversity those guys overcame.  To lose all that velocity and compete at that age and still win the division...impressive.

They were all actually pitching with torn labrums as well.  Managed to find success through the will to win and belly fire. 

[wadesworld]

That drastic velocity drop is unprecedented though! Name me a team that saw that type of drop in velocity AND still went on to win the division.

Yeah it is unprecedented. Still waiting on someone to provide me with that ever happening before.

[WI inferiority Complexes]

Yeah it is unprecedented. Still waiting on someone to provide me with that ever happening before.

Quintana wasn't on the Cubs last year.

[wadesworld]

Quintana wasn't on the Cubs last year.

But Lackey, Montgomery, Lester, Arieta, and Hendricks were. You can take up the stat with ESPN if you think it's wrong. But they were thinking "Hmm..." too.

[GGGG]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/05/03/about-those-cubs-velocity-issues-well-some-of-it-may-be-a-wrigley-problem/

Most of the velocity issues are happening at Wrigley. 

[drewm88]

Yeah what great adversity they overcame to win a division in which their payroll is $34 million more than the 2nd highest payroll in the division.  A measly $100 million more than the team that is in second place in the division.  Unbelievable the type of adversity they had to overcome this year to win the NL Central.

[jsglow]

I think it's cool that with 3 games to go the Crew is still hunting October. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/05/03/about-those-cubs-velocity-issues-well-some-of-it-may-be-a-wrigley-problem/

Most of the velocity issues are happening at Wrigley.

Lester is going to be 33 and had pitched 457 and 1/3 innings over the last two years going into this season.

Lackey of is 38 and had pitched 429 and 2/3 innings over the last two years going into this season.

Arrieta is 31 and has pitched 468 and 1/3 innings over the last two years going into this season.

It is stunning, absolutely stunning that the velocities of pitchers in their 30s decreased after two years of massive workloads and pitching into late October and November. Something underhanded must be afoot.

[TallTitan34]

I regret even asking but...

You are saying that every Cubs starter was taking steroids and they all stopped this year. As a result, all of their velocities are down.

Why did they all stop if it worked so well last year?  Why did all four guys decide to quit at the same time?  I mean it would be pretty suspicious if all of their velocities dropped at the same time. Why not continue since they hadn't been caught?