When will Markus Howard stop pouting? New starting lineup

[warriorchick]

he is 17 if you didn't know

WHAT!!?!?!?!?!?!

Why are we just now finding out about this?

[rocky_warrior]

This place is the worst right now.

I agree with this analysis.

[tower912]

The whiners are out in force.  Sadly, they have ammunition.

[brewcity77]

I am down for a lineup change though.  However, this would be my lineup:

1. Markus
2. Rowsey
3. JJJ
4. Katin
6. Luke

Luke at the 6? That's a bold move, Cotton, let's see if it pays off...

[warriorchick]

Luke at the 6? That's a bold move, Cotton, let's see if it pays off...

He wants to play the 3-forward 3-guard half-court style of ball that I played in Tennessee.

[MarquetteDano]

I like the kid very much, but he is a 2G playing the point.  Even on a team with a gaping hole at PF, the biggest thing we are missing is that heady-coach-on-the-floor PG.  We have had a long string of good to great PGs (Miller/Hutchins/Henry/Deiner/James), then solid PGs (Acker/Cadougan/Buycks), to a poor one (Ners archenemy), to really not having one at all now. 

I like a PG who is a QB that looks to get everyone involved and gets them the ball where they can do something with it, and as good and fun as Rowsey and Howard are, they aren't that type of player.  Wilson actually does that, but I don't know if he has the ball handling skills to play PG.

We were asking for good shooting point guards after Cadougan, Derrick, and then Traci.  Well we now have them.  Only problem is that they are not elite passers.  Rowsey will never be a great passer.  My only hope with Howard is that he grows into a true point.  He definitely can get to the rim.  Just needs to have the vision to find the open man.

[brewcity77]

We were asking for good shooting point guards after Cadougan, Derrick, and then Traci.  Well we now have them.  Only problem is that they are not elite passers.  Rowsey will never be a great passer.  My only hope with Howard is that he grows into a true point.  He definitely can get to the rim.  Just needs to have the vision to find the open man.

All we're really looking for is a lottery-caliber PG that can pass, shoot, protect the ball, and defend, and is willing to stay for 4 years. Is that too much to ask?

[MU82]

Unless another PG is in the pipeline - and I sure don't see one - Markus is our future. So we can say he's not a true PG until we're blue-and-gold in the face, but he's going to be our PG.

Not starting him? Sure, if it's to do a little change for the sake of change thing, but he's been fine at the beginning of most games. His big TO in the last game was in the middle of it. He has had some real fast starts for us, too. But yeah, sometimes it's not bad to make a change or two just because, and maybe he would be a real spark off the bench.

Oh, and the troll who made the OP hasn't come back here to offer any proof that Markus has been pouting. That's a snapshot of what makes Scoop so doggone special during rough patches!

[MarquetteDano]

Unless another PG is in the pipeline - and I sure don't see one - Markus is our future. So we can say he's not a true PG until we're blue-and-gold in the face, but he's going to be our PG.

Not starting him? Sure, if it's to do a little change for the sake of change thing, but he's been fine at the beginning of most games. His big TO in the last game was in the middle of it. He has had some real fast starts for us, too. But yeah, sometimes it's not bad to make a change or two just because, and maybe he would be a real spark off the bench.

Oh, and the troll who made the OP hasn't come back here to offer any proof that Markus has been pouting. That's a snapshot of what makes Scoop so doggone special during rough patches!

Agreed. For the record, I think Markus will turn both into a good passer and defender by the time he graduates.

[Herman Cain]

Lets give JJJ a shot at the point guard the last 5 games.

[jesmu84]

Lets give JJJ a shot at the point guard the last 5 games.

What. The. unnatural carnal knowledge.

[MU82]

Lets give JJJ a shot at the point guard the last 5 games.

I vote Heldt.

[🏀]

Lets give JJJ a shot at the point guard the last 5 games.

Scoop has officially jumped the shark.

[brewcity77]

Lets give JJJ a shot at the point guard the last 5 games.

Why would JJ shoot our point guard? 

[tower912]

Lets give JJJ a shot at the point guard the last 5 games.

It's Valentine's day.   Not April Fool's day. 

[ATWizJr]

The whiners are out in force.  Sadly, they have ammunition.

So that makes their whining legit.

[brewcity77]

So that makes their whining legit.

Not necessarily. We had plenty of whiners in 2011, 2012, and 2013, and those teams went to the Sweet 16 twice and Elite 8. We also had whiners in 2014, when we were up and down all year and went into Selection Sunday losers of 4 straight. Ammunition doesn't make them right, as whiners have always had ammunition around here. Reality is it's probably best to be patient and make such judgments after the fact with the benefit of hindsight.

[ATWizJr]

Not necessarily. We had plenty of whiners in 2011, 2012, and 2013, and those teams went to the Sweet 16 twice and Elite 8. We also had whiners in 2014, when we were up and down all year and went into Selection Sunday losers of 4 straight. Ammunition doesn't make them right, as whiners have always had ammunition around here. Reality is it's probably best to be patient and make such judgments after the fact with the benefit of hindsight.

then you'd say, "anyone can make those judgements in hindsight".  having ammo, imo, means that there's some justification. semantics, i suppose.

[DUNKS45]

LMAO  nice one Tower.

[brewcity77]

then you'd say, "anyone can make those judgements in hindsight".  having ammo, imo, means that there's some justification. semantics, i suppose.

Why would I say that? Whining means you're a whiner, not that you have justification. I prefer a more measured approach before, during, and after. Very little gets solved by whining other than to make the whiner more miserable.

[mr.MUskie]

I haven't seen Markus pout once.  If he is, the only thing he has to pout about lately is his game.  But I haven't seen it. 

I am down for a lineup change though.  However, this would be my lineup:

1. Markus
2. Rowsey
3. JJJ
4. Katin
6. Luke

Would be fine with Rowsey at the 1 and Duane at the 2 as well.  I think we need to put our best offensive foot forward.  We know this team can't defend, but we do know we can score.  So let's focus on putting up 15-20 before the first media timeout, and this is the lineup to do it.

Are you boycotting 5?

[GoldenDieners32]

Are you boycotting 5?

it's overrated

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Lets give JJJ a shot at the point guard the last 5 games.

This is a gem.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

JJJ is one of the better passers on the team. However, he lacks the bball iq to be an effective point.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

JJJ is one of the better passers on the team. However, he lacks the bball iq to be an effective point.

He also takes the cake for all of the dumbest passes this year. 


....well maybe Haanif's backwards "pass" to Howard with out 2.5 to go when MU had pulled it within 10 or so on Saturday would make the top 5.