The Ref Called a Foul at the End of the Game

[wadesworld]

Watch the replay of the last play.  Watch the referee at the bottom of the screen, and listen for a whistle after Sam grabs the rebound.  He calls a foul (you can hear a whistle and see his arm go up), and he starts running into the middle of the court.  When the horn sounds he whistles like 4 times, tries to put his hands up to tell people "Hold up!" as he notices the fans are storming the court, and then must've just said, "Well, too late now!"

Awesome.

PS There was definitely no foul, unless every single time a defender's hand touches a player's uniform it's a foul.

[Marquette4life]

Omg didn't even realize this! This makes it that much sweeter

[Lighthouse 84]

I saw that as well and said to my wife, hang on, hang on!  The ref called a foul!  Then with all the students storming the court there was no way they'd get them off the court and do anything.

And I agree, there definitely was no foul so I'm not sure what he was signaling anyway.

[MUBigDance]

I didn't see it being on the other side of the arena...can you tell if the intent was to call it on us or nova? I know you observed no foul but was the body language of the ref one way or the other?

[PGsHeroes32]

I didn't see it being on the other side of the arena...can you tell if the intent was to call it on us or nova? I know you observed no foul but was the body language of the ref one way or the other?

Nova to put us to the line to "ice" it

[TSmith34, Inc.]

PS There was definitely no foul, unless every single time a defender's hand touches a player's uniform it's a foul.

I was wondering if the foul was actually on the player who attempted the tip in, for over the back...but I don't know if the timing of the whistle supports that.

Either way, I think we need to strategically storm the court anytime we are ahead in a close game with < 30 seconds left. We could even do it at the DePaul game next week if necessary.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Wojo was trying to wave everyone off the court as he knew a foul had been called as well.

[swoopem]

Wojo was trying to wave everyone off the court as he knew a foul had been called as well.

Disagree. I think he was waving everyone away from him and the Nova players/coaches so he could have a clear lane to walk and shake their hans

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Disagree. I think he was waving everyone away from him and the Nova players/coaches so he could have a clear lane to walk and shake their hans

Yup, in the presser he said it happened to them at Duke, so he just wanted to make sure the players and coaches were safe.

[#UnleashSean]

I'm saying this on the video I recorded. He 100% called it. Went to the scorers table for a bit before giving up.

[chapman]

Better replay it.  Sam to the line for two shots with a second left.  Those of us who weren't there can make the trip up to get our own court storming in. 

[cheebs09]

Based on a different post saying the clock was tied to an official's whistle in the last minute, does that mean he didn't blow his whistle to make a call since the clock ran out? Or did I misinterpret?

[MUMountin]

Had a pretty full discussion of this in a previous thread:  http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=53257.msg892685#msg892685

[Oldgym]

When Sam came down with the rebound, there was time left, probably two seconds.  Despite the frenzy, I had enough time to think "hey, they're not fouling.  Why not foul him?  And what's the velocity of an unladen swallow?" 

I would imagine the ref thought the same thing. His hand goes up at 0.9 seconds, probably in reaction to Darryl Reynolds putting his hand on Sam's hip...which wasn't a foul at all, but I'm sure he had the anticipatory whistle ready to go.  Not that anybody in the building would have heard it.

This Zapruder-like analysis was a good excuse to re-watch the final minute four or five times.

[Benny B]

Based on a different post saying the clock was tied to an official's whistle in the last minute, does that mean he didn't blow his whistle to make a call since the clock ran out? Or did I misinterpret?

The system may have malfunctioned, which may have also had something to do with Brunson's fake grab 10 seconds prior.

[burger]

Nova had no time outs left......

Make or miss the first.....

Definitely miss the second......Game over ......

Soon as that ball hits the rim......Clock on......Game over.....

1 second to rebound and throw the ball 90 feet.....Good luck.....

[mu03eng]

Better replay it.  Sam to the line for two shots with a second left.  Those of us who weren't there can make the trip up to get our own court storming in. 

Except that when they stormed the court, if the game wasn't over we'd be assessed a technical foul, meaning if Sam doesn't hit at least one and Nova hits both we could be tied with 1 second left and Nova with the ball.

Ref probably thought that he didn't want to get into that nightmare scenario, especially since they had already screwed up the end of game clock and gifted Nova a time out they didn't have.

BTW I know you were joking

[Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020]

The ref definitely called the foul, and there was about .4 secs left on the clock.   I remember looking up at the clock thinking that this was going to be a problem when the students started rushing, but then when i looked up again the clock said ZERO.   The timekeeper must've set it after he saw the rush, or possibly one of the refs just told him to end it (as Hauser would've been shooting 2 on the other end anyway). 

[tower912]

He did.   And then he looked at all of the other variables, including several hundred people now stampeding the floor, and said "ah, f-it.  Nice win."

[jsglow]

He did.   And then he looked at all of the other variables, including several hundred people now stampeding the floor, and said "ah, f-it.  Nice win."

And to add to this, Jay Wright didn't say a peep.  I'm guessing he thought there was no need for controversy.  Another BEast team probably dances and a special moment for thousands is preserved. 

Class act.  We're lucky to have him representing the conference.

[GGGG]

When Sam came down with the rebound, there was time left, probably two seconds.  Despite the frenzy, I had enough time to think "hey, they're not fouling.  Why not foul him?  And what's the velocity of an unladen swallow?" 

I would imagine the ref thought the same thing. His hand goes up at 0.9 seconds, probably in reaction to Darryl Reynolds putting his hand on Sam's hip...which wasn't a foul at all, but I'm sure he had the anticipatory whistle ready to go.  Not that anybody in the building would have heard it.

This Zapruder-like analysis was a good excuse to re-watch the final minute four or five times.

The whistle was more than "anticipatory."  A whistle was blown somewhere.

[tower912]

And to add to this, Jay Wright didn't say a peep.  I'm guessing he thought there was no need for controversy.  Another BEast team probably dances and a special moment for thousands is preserved. 

Class act.  We're lucky to have him representing the conference.

In a couple of years, when MU is one of the top ranked teams in the country, and we lose a conference road game under similar circumstances, I hope our fanbase can react with as much class as Wright, keeping in mind that the win means more to the underdog's chances than a loss harms our own.    Unless they collapse, Nova is still a 1 seed.   This loss means nothing to their overall season.  Not like Creighton's losses without Watson. 

[MerrittsMustache]

Posted on one of the other thread discussing this...

The official raised his hand and blew the whistle trying to get a jump on things, assuming that Nova would foul. The Nova defender got close to Hauser but never actually tried to foul him. If the player had made an obvious attempt to foul, they would have called it. The crew didn't let the call go because of the students. They did so because they recognized that Nova was conceding.

Addition: The refs cleared the court in the Oregon-UCLA game earlier this season to put less than a second back on the clock. Officials are not going to be swayed by students rushing the court. They still have a job to do and are graded accordingly.

[cheebs09]

Posted on one of the other thread discussing this...

The official raised his hand and blew the whistle trying to get a jump on things, assuming that Nova would foul. The Nova defender got close to Hauser but never actually tried to foul him. If the player had made an obvious attempt to foul, they would have called it. The crew didn't let the call go because of the students. They did so because they recognized that Nova was conceding.

Addition: The refs cleared the court in the Oregon-UCLA game earlier this season to put less than a second back on the clock. Officials are not going to be swayed by students rushing the court. They still have a job to do and are graded accordingly.

I agree with this. I don't think there was any foul to call. May have been viewed as an inadvertent whistle.

Was the home team T'd up in that instance?

[rocky_warrior]

I agree with this. I don't think there was any foul to call. May have been viewed as an inadvertent whistle.

Was the home team T'd up in that instance?

I watched that game.  And I don't think they assessed a technical because the refs had to go to the monitor to see how much time to put back on the clock.  "Conveniently", that review took long enough for the PA guy to get everyone to clear the court before fans were obstructing play.

By the rules, they probably could (should?) have assessed a technical because fans can't enter the court at any time during the game.  Then again, if the clock reads zero, the game is over, so the fans were in the right until the clock was changed to add time back