collapse

* '23-'24 SOTG Tally


2023-24 Season SoG Tally
Kolek11
Ighodaro6
Jones, K.6
Mitchell2
Jones, S.1
Joplin1

'22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

* Big East Standings

* Recent Posts

Lakers Going After Hurley by LAZER
[Today at 10:43:14 AM]


2024 Mock Drafts by wadesworld
[Today at 10:27:31 AM]


Incoming freshmen by Scoop Snoop
[Today at 10:13:48 AM]


And The New...... by wadesworld
[Today at 09:25:10 AM]


2024-25 Roster by TAMU, Knower of Ball
[Today at 08:39:42 AM]


2024 Coaching Carousel by Herman Cain
[June 07, 2024, 09:53:13 PM]


2024-25 Outlook by Herman Cain
[June 07, 2024, 09:51:11 PM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!

* Next up: The long cold summer

Marquette
Marquette

Open Practice

Date/Time: Oct 11, 2024 ???
TV: NA
Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

Author Topic: Butt whoopin  (Read 17378 times)

tower912

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 23901
Butt whoopin
« on: January 07, 2017, 08:03:33 PM »
1.  Villanova is defending national champs.  A clinic.
2.  Howard is a keeper.
3.  Study Nova.  What MU needs to aspire to.
4.  A long way to go.  Try to learn something and move on.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muhoops1

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1482
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2017, 08:09:18 PM »
Normally I'd agree and not that a win was in the cards, but Jesus c'mon.  Nova is human.  This effort sucked.  Our best player is a HS Senior!  Poor effort on D, poor shot selection on O.  Wojo should donate his check this week.  Abysmal.

GE911

  • Walk-On
  • *
  • Posts: 38
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2017, 08:10:04 PM »
1.  Villanova is defending national champs.  A clinic.
2.  Howard is a keeper.
3.  Study Nova.  What MU needs to aspire to.
4.  A long way to go.  Try to learn something and move on.

All true points, just sucks to see how far away from being competitive this team is

GE911

  • Walk-On
  • *
  • Posts: 38
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2017, 08:10:52 PM »
Normally I'd agree and not that a win was in the cards, but Jesus c'mon.  Nova is human.  This effort sucked.  Our best player is a HS Senior!  Poor effort on D, poor shot selection on O.  Wojo should donate his check this week.  Abysmal.

+1

TAMU, Knower of Ball

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22225
  • Meat Eater certified
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2017, 08:21:17 PM »
Nova's seniors have never lost 2 games in a row.

Their average margin of victory in games after a loss is 18.5.

There was one loss by 9. One by 3. 3 by 20+ and 2 more by 30+.

Wright knows how to use a loss to inspire good play.
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 7807
  • Js for days
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2017, 08:21:44 PM »
I thought we'd have a chance if we hit 13-15 threes. 3 mins to go and we have 12, and down 22.

Nova is good. Were slightly above average. Move on. Beat SHU on Wed, beat DePaul, and grab 1/3 versus X, Butler and Nova again. That gets us to 4-4, not a bad spot to be with that schedule. Whether this team can do that - who knows?
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Anti-Dentite

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 606
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2017, 08:21:57 PM »
Stank, stunk and stink, last 3 years in a nutshell. I'm ready to move on from the Wojo trainwreck.
You know the difference between a dentist and a sadist, don't you? Newer magazines.

manny31

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 246
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2017, 08:22:19 PM »
#1 Yep, VU is pretty good. MU making them look like world beaters. DePaul lost to them by 3.
#2 Howard is definitely a keeper. At 17 looks to leaps and bounds tougher(mentally if not physically)than our Seniors.
#3 Study VU, aspire to be them. These kids are only around for about 4 years. No amount of studying will....
#4 A long long long long way to go. I think what we have learned is that this MU team is lacking mental and physical toughness at approximately 2.5 positions at any given time.

If you can't tell I was pretty disappointed. This team is not remotely tough enough to compete with the first 5 teams in the BE. I thought it was pathetic. I did like Wojo's fire with the "T"

tower912

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 23901
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2017, 08:23:22 PM »
Nova's seniors have never lost 2 games in a row.

Their average margin of victory in games after a loss is 18.5.

There was one loss by 9. One by 3. 3 by 20+ and 2 more by 30+.

Wright knows how to use a loss to inspire good play.

Wrong thread.  Several people adamantly disagree with these points.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

dw3dw3dw3

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 820
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2017, 08:25:50 PM »
Willing to chalk this one up to catching the champs on the wrong day.  Looking for a strong effort on Wednesday. Pretty much a must win if this team has any dreams of dancing.

manny31

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 246
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2017, 08:26:57 PM »
I thought we'd have a chance if we hit 13-15 threes. 3 mins to go and we have 12, and down 22.

Nova is good. Were slightly above average. Move on. Beat SHU on Wed, beat DePaul, and grab 1/3 versus X, Butler and Nova again. That gets us to 4-4, not a bad spot to be with that schedule. Whether this team can do that - who knows?

Loss at home to SHU, beat DePaul, and 0-3 vs X, Butler, and VU. 2-6 NIT looking like a pipe dream.

muhoops1

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1482
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2017, 08:30:36 PM »
Stank, stunk and stink, last 3 years in a nutshell. I'm ready to move on from the Wojo trainwreck.

^^*Like*^^

TAMU, Knower of Ball

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22225
  • Meat Eater certified
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2017, 08:31:14 PM »
Wrong thread.  Several people adamantly disagree with these points.

Just posting facts.
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 7807
  • Js for days
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2017, 08:32:44 PM »
I thought we'd have a chance if we hit 13-15 threes. 3 mins to go and we have 12, and down 22.

Nova is good. Were slightly above average. Move on. Beat SHU on Wed, beat DePaul, and grab 1/3 versus X, Butler and Nova again. That gets us to 4-4, not a bad spot to be with that schedule. Whether this team can do that - who knows?

And they hit 14 threes. Team was better w Luke on the bench tonight.
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

KipsBayEagle

  • Guest
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2017, 08:33:14 PM »
Normally I'd agree and not that a win was in the cards, but Jesus c'mon.  Nova is human.  This effort sucked.  Our best player is a HS Senior!  Poor effort on D, poor shot selection on O.  Wojo should donate his check this week.  Abysmal.
I'm sorry but could you please explain to me what coaching errors you saw tonight that would require Wojo to give up his paycheck?  What I saw were two teams at vastly different talent levels, not a team that was masterfully coached and one where the coaching was abysmal.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22225
  • Meat Eater certified
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2017, 08:33:45 PM »
And they hit 14 threes. Team was better w Luke on the bench tonight.

I thought we would miss Luke a ton next season. Now I'm not so sure.
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


warriorfan 14

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 204
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2017, 08:34:00 PM »
Expected to get our butts whooped, and we got our butts whooped.

Cheatham is terrible. I'm starting to lose hope on him this season. Enough is enough, when Duane is healthy he needs to take a large chunk of Cheatham's minutes.

Fischer and Johnson continue to play horrible against major opponents. They put up numbers against mediocre teams but can't get the job done against quality opponents. Just do not make winning plays.

Howard is really good

LloydsLegs

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1436
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2017, 08:34:26 PM »
Not sure what game you guys watched; 12 point loss = good effort vs. nat'l champs.

wadesworld

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 17598
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2017, 08:35:58 PM »
Wrong thread.  Several people adamantly disagree with these points.

Yup. And still definitely do. In my opinion? We're incredibly overmatched at 4 of 5 positions, completely overmatched when comparing benches, and completely overmatched on the coaching front. If Nova had won by 15 against Butler, they still win this game by 15 tonight. Sorry, but they're simply a better basketball team. Plain and simple.

Some might think our talent is close to theirs I guess. I personally think it's as different as the talent from Marquette to Houston Baptist.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2017, 08:38:07 PM by wadesworld »
Rocket Trigger Warning (wild that saying this would trigger anyone, but it's the world we live in): Black Lives Matter

BallBoy

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 937
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2017, 08:36:54 PM »
Positives
1.  Mu battled back from down 30 to only lose by 12. This will make the Bad Breaks segment. Easy victory against the spread to a push
2.  The guys who can compete against Nova are young. Howard was there and Hauser did well too. While JJJ and Luke struggled the new guard is starting to produce and held their own against Nova.
3.  Howard can shoot
4.  Wojo gets a lot of heat but his guys showed some pride in the end instead of packing it up. Even with the second string they didn't let it end at 20+ loss. I think we can see how limited the team has been and why Buzz likely wanted out of town.

WarriorFan

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 1643
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2017, 08:37:33 PM »
There were a few positives:
a) neither of our freshman sh@t themselves
b) Luke has now proven he doesn't belong
c) Heldt had some nice minutes
d) 3pt percentage was good.
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

ecompt

  • Registered User
  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 3339
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2017, 08:37:38 PM »
I thought we would miss Luke a ton next season. Now I'm not so sure.

We are a much better team without him NOW, and if two of the three freshmen can play a lick we'll be much better next year. They didn't quit tonight, and Sam found himself in the second half. Wednesday is the season. Lose, and you're likely looking at 6-12 BE.

GGGG

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 25207
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2017, 08:38:16 PM »
Stank, stunk and stink, last 3 years in a nutshell. I'm ready to move on from the Wojo trainwreck.


If you can't see progress, you are blind.

Boozemon Barro

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 667
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2017, 08:38:43 PM »
I'm sorry but could you please explain to me what coaching errors you saw tonight that would require Wojo to give up his paycheck?  What I saw were two teams at vastly different talent levels, not a team that was masterfully coached and one where the coaching was abysmal.

Well then our GM should give back their paycheck.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 22225
  • Meat Eater certified
Re: Butt whoopin
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2017, 08:38:48 PM »
We are a much better team without him NOW, and if two of the three freshmen can play a lick we'll be much better next year. They didn't quit tonight, and Sam found himself in the second half. Wednesday is the season. Lose, and you're likely looking at 6-12 BE.

Give me Froling and I'm feeling more confident about next season than I was about this one.
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


 

feedback