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wadesworld

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:43:17 PM
Why? Am I not allowed to have an opinion?  I am not name calling other poster or anything else, just merely expressing my opinion.  And my opinion is that  I am sick of losing to the Seton Halls of the world.  I saw no evidence that we will ever beat them again under Wojo. 

I miss Buzz.

Lol. We were up 3 with 30 seconds left on the road and you saw no evidence that we will ever beat them again? Good stuff guy.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:43:17 PM
I saw no evidence that we will ever beat them again under Wojo. 

I miss Buzz.

I agree you can have your own opionion, even though starting a topic like this makes the rest of the board look stupid

"Hey, did you see 'Wojo has to go' is a hot topic on Scoop" - which is clearly not the representative of the truth.

Anyhow, to your point, of no evidence we'll ever beat SHU under Wojo.  Did you watch today?  We almost did.  And Wojo was the one to put the team in that position.

But yes, we get it.  You hated the Wojo hire from day 1.  That's OK, but you are being unreasonable. 

Afroman


wadesworld


JD

Because wojo can help the missed layups and rebounds at the end, right?

He put them in position to win, what more do you want?
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jutaw22mu

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 01, 2017, 05:43:43 PM
That's idiotic they were a very good team last year. Yes this was a choke and we should've/could've won but your logic of dominating seton hall till wojo showed up is stupid.

I tried to look up our record vs Seton Hall, but I do not remember losing once to them until Wojo. Therefore my logic is correct unless someone else can prove it to be flawed by  finding a loss on our record vs them prior to the Wojo era.

jesmu84

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:49:43 PM
I tried to look up our record vs Seton Hall, but I do not remember losing once to them until Wojo. Therefore my logic is correct unless someone else can prove it to be flawed by  finding a loss on our record vs them prior to the Wojo era.

In your world, is it not possible that a program like Seton Hall can go from bad to good? Regardless of what has happened at MU, others can get better.

You're the type of person who would have wanted Theo Epstein fired after his 2nd season with the Cubs.

Afroman

Quote from: wadesworld on January 01, 2017, 05:49:22 PM
Or understand basketball.

I understand Marquette hasn't been very good in three years. Tell me what I am missing, oh wise one?

Newsdreams

Stupid thread can't grab miss free throw rebounds is not on coach, neither missing layups or doing stupid crap as a senior
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:49:43 PM
I tried to look up our record vs Seton Hall, but I do not remember losing once to them until Wojo. Therefore my logic is correct unless someone else can prove it to be flawed by  finding a loss on our record vs them prior to the Wojo era.

One is not a causation of the other.  Small sample size.  Difference in talent level of the teams when Wojo arrived.  FYI, Seton Hall was good last season.   

You need to take a logic class, apparently. 

tower912

Quote from: 1SE on January 01, 2017, 05:43:08 PM
For 39:20 of that game (even when we were trailing) I really was feeling good, thinking Wojo had turned a corner.

The last 40 seconds was brutal and unfortunately games are 40 minutes long. A lot of what went wrong there was situational awareness - and that's something that IS on the coach.

An "L" was the expectation but a "W" would have given Wojo a bit of house money.

No.
Markus missed an open look at a 3.   Not Wojo's fault.
Luke misses a dunk off a great set.   Not Wojo's fault.
Haanif misses a lay up.  Fouled?   Not Wojo's fault.
Sam goes for the hero play and tries to draw a charge.   Not Wojo's fault.
Luke, Sam, and JJ fail to secure rebounds on missed free throws and then commit dumb fouls.    Not Wojo's fault.
JjJ tries to split a double team and gets stripped.    Just JjJ being JjJ.   Lord knows, Wojo has tried.   
Rowsey and Howard run up the floor next to each other near the sideline.    I am sure that is how Wojo drew it up.   

A series of failures.    Not one time did an upperclassman step up.    JjJ tried, sort of, on offense.   

This was a failure of on-court leadership.   
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TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: tower912 on January 01, 2017, 05:38:38 PM
Today's game actually gave me hope that the team/program/coach are trending in the right direction.   
Yup, this.  It is a bitter feeling losing a game that was in our grasp, but we played poorly and lost by 3 on the road to a quality team that is a tough match up for us.  Last year we lost by 17 and 20 points.

And the OP is moronic.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

brewcity77

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:49:43 PM
I tried to look up our record vs Seton Hall, but I do not remember losing once to them until Wojo. Therefore my logic is correct unless someone else can prove it to be flawed by  finding a loss on our record vs them prior to the Wojo era.

"I can't be bothered to look up history, so I'm right and you're wrong, na na na naaaaaaaaa na."

What an idiot.

GoldenWarrior11

If we lose a game to DePaul or St. Johns then we can all start distributing pitchforks.

jutaw22mu

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 01, 2017, 05:47:13 PM
I agree you can have your own opionion, even though starting a topic like this makes the rest of the board look stupid

"Hey, did you see 'Wojo has to go' is a hot topic on Scoop" - which is clearly not the representative of the truth.

Anyhow, to your point, of no evidence we'll ever beat SHU under Wojo.  Did you watch today?  We almost did.  And Wojo was the one to put the team in that position.

But yes, we get it.  You hated the Wojo hire from day 1.  That's OK, but you are being unreasonable.

Actually, I loved the Wojo hire on day 1. Maybe I am over-reacting, but being okay with losing to Seton Hall over and over again is like being okay with losing to East Carolina when we were in C-USA.  How long are we willing to wait for this guy to restore our program to the level Buzz had it, where we went to 3 Elite Eights in a row (with quite mediocre teams).

I watched today. And I thought we had turned a corner with Wojo. But then the last 40 seconds of the game happened.  This team should have won the game, and he has to shoulder some of the responsibility for the loss. 

rocky_warrior

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:49:43 PM
I tried to look up our record vs Seton Hall, but I do not remember losing once to them until Wojo. Therefore my logic is correct unless someone else can prove it to be flawed by  finding a loss on our record vs them prior to the Wojo era.

Loss on March 5, 2011 under Buzz.

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/sh_03_05_11

Now.  Just stop being dumb.

jutaw22mu

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 01, 2017, 05:52:16 PM
One is not a causation of the other.  Small sample size.  Difference in talent level of the teams when Wojo arrived.  FYI, Seton Hall was good last season.   

You need to take a logic class, apparently.
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I have a PhD in Chemistry and work at Yale.

jesmu84

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:54:35 PM
Actually, I loved the Wojo hire on day 1. Maybe I am over-reacting, but being okay with losing to Seton Hall over and over again is like being okay with losing to East Carolina when we were in C-USA.  How long are we willing to wait for this guy to restore our program to the level Buzz had it, where we went to 3 Elite Eights in a row (with quite mediocre teams).

I watched today. And I thought we had turned a corner with Wojo. But then the last 40 seconds of the game happened.  This team should have won the game, and he has to shoulder some of the responsibility for the loss.

Uh... what?

Since you seem to like evidence, can you demonstrate when we went to 3 elite eights in a row under Buzz?

wadesworld

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:54:35 PM
Actually, I loved the Wojo hire on day 1. Maybe I am over-reacting, but being okay with losing to Seton Hall over and over again is like being okay with losing to East Carolina when we were in C-USA.  How long are we willing to wait for this guy to restore our program to the level Buzz had it, where we went to 3 Elite Eights in a row (with quite mediocre teams).

I watched today. And I thought we had turned a corner with Wojo. But then the last 40 seconds of the game happened.  This team should have won the game, and he has to shoulder some of the responsibility for the loss.

We certainly did not go to 3 straight E8s. Not sure you've gotten anything right...

jutaw22mu

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 01, 2017, 05:56:56 PM
Uh... what?

Since you seem to like evidence, can you demonstrate when we went to 3 elite eights in a row under Buzz?

Was it two? Okay, we went to 2 elite eights.  Have we made the tournament once under Wojo?

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:54:35 PM
where we went to 3 Elite Eights in a row (with quite mediocre teams).
Facts, logic, who needs 'em, am I right?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

tower912

One elite 8.   Two sweet 16's.    Don't post angry.   Makes all your graduate degrees seem worthless. 
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:58:12 PM
Was it two? Okay, we went to 2 elite eights.  Have we made the tournament once under Wojo?
Ah, trolling.  I get it now.  Bye
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

wadesworld

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:58:12 PM
Was it two? Okay, we went to 2 elite eights.  Have we made the tournament once under Wojo?

Try a 3rd time?

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 01, 2017, 05:54:35 PM
Actually, I loved the Wojo hire on day 1. Maybe I am over-reacting, but being okay with losing to Seton Hall over and over again is like being okay with losing to East Carolina when we were in C-USA.  How long are we willing to wait for this guy to restore our program to the level Buzz had it, where we went to 3 Elite Eights in a row (with quite mediocre teams).

I watched today. And I thought we had turned a corner with Wojo. But then the last 40 seconds of the game happened.  This team should have won the game, and he has to shoulder some of the responsibility for the loss.

We didn't go to 3 Elite Eights.  We went once. 

And the teams that went to 2 sweet sixteens and an elite eight were mediocre?  Wow.   

Actually, thank you.  These ridiculous posts are taking my focus away from that awful game. 

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