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Aircraftcarrier

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3 Remaining scholarships
« on: December 20, 2016, 08:44:59 AM »
No more High School players unless you can get an impact player.Need to concentrate on Grad transfers,Jucos and regular transfers that not only can contribute but also to balance classes.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2016, 08:47:17 AM »
Grad transfer big if possible.

The rest you just get what you can.  Balancing classes always sounds good but with transfers is never really works out.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2016, 08:55:24 AM »
Can't just take players to fill roster if they will never contribute.Need to make sure they have 4 spots available for 2018 class.Going to be a good one.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2016, 08:56:33 AM »
I should have said "get the best that you can."  I meant regardless if high school, Juco or transfer.  I agree that you shouldn't fill up for the sake of filling up.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2016, 09:00:24 AM »
Lets recruit some tough SOB's.   Players who play like Wojo played, not the choir boy Wojo has become.    Let's get some angry guys.  Some cheap shot artists.    A Laimbeer, a Mahorn, a Rodman, an Aaron Craft, a Wojo, a Laettner, a player who belongs on a Cinci Huggins team.  We are in the F-ing Big East.    Let's get some F-ing B-Easts.   Lets get some guys that other fanbases hold in contempt and boo and throw crap at, not guys who other fanbases think about twice a year with a chuckle. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2016, 09:03:57 AM »
Lets recruit some tough SOB's.   Players who play like Wojo played, not the choir boy Wojo has become.    Let's get some angry guys.  Some cheap shot artists.    A Laimbeer, a Mahorn, a Rodman, an Aaron Craft, a Wojo, a Laettner, a player who belongs on a Cinci Huggins team.  We are in the F-ing Big East.    Let's get some F-ing B-Easts.   Lets get some guys that other fanbases hold in contempt and boo and throw crap at, not guys who other fanbases think about twice a year with a chuckle.

Problem is those kinda guys now are so uncoordinated that it takes them a couple years to be productive. Theres a kid from Northwestern who kinda plays like that now, Gavin Skelly. Hes a pain to play against now but he was so bad his first two years.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2016, 09:36:42 AM »
I agree Tower but it looks like the recruiting philosophy of the type of student athlete has changed if you know what I mean

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2016, 09:43:05 AM »
I've lost track at this point.  We have still have THREE scholarships for next year, after John, Eke and Cain?

EDIT: to answer my own question, yes we have 3 remaining for next year now with Carter and Cohen's departures.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2016, 09:49:21 AM by JamilJaeJamailJrJuan »
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2016, 09:46:33 AM »
I agree Tower but it looks like the recruiting philosophy of the type of student athlete has changed if you know what I mean

If you keep recruiting choir boys, you get choir boy basketball.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2016, 09:48:45 AM »
Lets recruit some tough SOB's.   Players who play like Wojo played, not the choir boy Wojo has become.    Let's get some angry guys.  Some cheap shot artists.    A Laimbeer, a Mahorn, a Rodman, an Aaron Craft, a Wojo, a Laettner, a player who belongs on a Cinci Huggins team.  We are in the F-ing Big East.    Let's get some F-ing B-Easts.   Lets get some guys that other fanbases hold in contempt and boo and throw crap at, not guys who other fanbases think about twice a year with a chuckle.

Totally agree. A dude like James Farr on X last year.

Hopefully Eke and John become those guys down the road. 

As for next year, I think we need at least one grad transfer big.  I'd take 2 grad transfers.  And then a traditional transfer would be nice.  Get him in the program, but can't play.  I think we should use at least one of those every year. Impossible to keep 13 scholarship players who are eligible to play happy, as we've seen 2x this year.
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2016, 09:48:57 AM »
I've lost track at this point.  We have still have THREE scholarships for next year, after John, Eke and Cain?


Yes.  We had one remaining before the two transfers.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2016, 10:03:01 AM »
Lets recruit some tough SOB's.   Players who play like Wojo played, not the choir boy Wojo has become.    Let's get some angry guys.  Some cheap shot artists.    A Laimbeer, a Mahorn, a Rodman, an Aaron Craft, a Wojo, a Laettner, a player who belongs on a Cinci Huggins team.  We are in the F-ing Big East.    Let's get some F-ing B-Easts.   Lets get some guys that other fanbases hold in contempt and boo and throw crap at, not guys who other fanbases think about twice a year with a chuckle.
I would love to see this guy. However, IMHO Wojos MU will not even get close to a player like this. I think the admin would rather lose with choir boys than win with.....the players you describe above---if they had to choose between the two.

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2016, 10:08:24 AM »
I would love to see this guy. However, IMHO Wojos MU will not even get close to a player like this. I think the admin would rather lose with choir boys than win with.....the players you describe above---if they had to choose between the two.


I doubt that the MU administration would rather lose with choir boys than win with Laettner 2.0.

I chalk this up entirely to Wojo not understanding the true physicality of the BE.  I think he is trying to make up for that with his 2017 class.  Remember Tillman and possibly French were possibilities too. 

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2016, 10:15:08 AM »
I don't know if Wojo has a free rein to go after JUCOs, and even if he did would he take a couple?

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2016, 10:17:21 AM »
I don't know if Wojo has a free rein to go after JUCOs, and even if he did would he take a couple?

I am sure that Wojo has free reign to do what he sees best.
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2016, 10:26:20 AM »
When we had tough guys some scoopers begged for "high IQ" guys, traditionals and shooters. The poet and his sidekick took over to move us in that direction. Wojo comes from a program that signed the most skilled players in the country. Elite skill can beat good guys who are tough. Skill guys who are a notch below the elites? Maybe not.

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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2016, 10:34:42 AM »
I don't know if Wojo has a free rein to go after JUCOs, and even if he did would he take a couple?

The "ban" on jucos is something that's been overexagerated on this board. Wojo can and has gone after some jucos. They just have to be able to graduate venue their eligibility expires. That's tough for many because a lot of them study phy ed which Marquette doesn't offer a degree in. Need to be either three year jucos or major in a degree that mu offers.

Plus, I think MU fans have an inflated sense of how many good jucos are out there. We got four of the best jucos in the country in Buycks, JFB, DJO, and Jae. Most don't translate well to high majors. Look at Mulmore at Georgetown. He was the second leading scorer in the NJCAA with 26.1 ppg last season. He's now getting like 10 minutes a game at the end of Georgetown's bench. A three star freshmen and trae Campbell (Georgetown's version of Derrick Wilson) are ahead of him on the depth chart.
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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2016, 10:40:51 AM »
Look at Mulmore at Georgetown. He was the second leading scorer in the NJCAA with 26.1 ppg last season. He's now getting like 10 minutes a game at the end of Georgetown's bench. A three star freshmen and trae Campbell (Georgetown's version of Derrick Wilson) are ahead of him on the depth chart.

NO! Nope nope nope. Those are facts. Those are not allowed at on Scoop. Keep this crap up TAMU and I'm reporting you to the Mods.

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2016, 10:41:29 AM »
about a junkyard dog like this famous Duke player:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9gnyosh_w

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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2016, 10:58:19 AM »
Lets recruit some tough SOB's.   Players who play like Wojo played, not the choir boy Wojo has become.    Let's get some angry guys.  Some cheap shot artists.    A Laimbeer, a Mahorn, a Rodman, an Aaron Craft, a Wojo, a Laettner, a player who belongs on a Cinci Huggins team.  We are in the F-ing Big East.    Let's get some F-ing B-Easts.   Lets get some guys that other fanbases hold in contempt and boo and throw crap at, not guys who other fanbases think about twice a year with a chuckle.

I think that you're living in the past.  Remember the rules have been changed to emphasize allowing offensive player movement.  Maybe if you're considered an elite guard like Ryan Arcidiacono or Aaron Craft you can get enough leeway to get a sneaky cheap shot in, but for the most part the days of the goons are gone.  Remember what happened when Ethan Happ tried to control Luke?
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2016, 11:00:07 AM »
When we had tough guys some scoopers begged for "high IQ" guys, traditionals and shooters. The poet and his sidekick took over to move us in that direction. Wojo comes from a program that signed the most skilled players in the country. Elite skill can beat good guys who are tough. Skill guys who are a notch below the elites? Maybe not.

We will find out, won't we?
Curious about the details regarding the concussion, are they practicing with more junk yard intensity?

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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2016, 11:06:37 AM »
about a junkyard dog like this famous Duke player:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9gnyosh_w

Unbelievable what a Duke homer Billy Packer was.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2016, 11:07:26 AM »
Remember what happened when Ethan Happ tried to control Luke?

I remember that the Badgers won.

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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2016, 11:09:24 AM »
So with these three schollies if Wojo can only recruit high school projects or marginal transfers who don't change the dynamic over the next two seasons, does he get more time to "rebuild" the program? 

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Re: 3 Remaining scholarships
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2016, 11:45:18 AM »
Not sure how much quality is left but there has to be a Juco that can rebound and play post defense.He does not have to be a big scorer.We are bankrupt inside.Until this changes we will not compete in the Big East.Hopefully Theo John is ready from day 1.Wojo needs to hit a Home Run with the 2018 recruiting class.

 

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