UW-Madison game thread

[jonny09]

And your vote for MUs best?


Please just replay the 2nd half.  That's all.

[Herman Cain]

let's go badgers chant at the bradley center. wojo should be embarrassed

Wojo doesnt care he has has big six year contract.

[jesmu84]

i would ask for specific examples but i'm not going to get into a debate. the badgers are a better team, but its not like they are nova. the talent level between the teams is not vast. wojo has done nothing to show me he can coach at this level. he should be on the hot seat after this one. if you are happy with the program thus far under wojo then i guess we have very different expectations for a program that has tons of money spent on it. if this is what marquette's basketball program is, i think the money spent on it could be better allocated to different areas

Thank you for acknowledging the talent difference. The biggest difference to me is experience between the two.

I am happy with the program's trajectory. Not so much the results. Under Wojo, I've seen better recruiting/commits. I've seen continued, incremental improvements on and off the floor with the program.

He hasn't had it easy from when he came in. No coach typically does when the previous coach leaves at the bottom of his program's mark.

Maybe I just have too much patience. But I'm willing to wait. 5 years, I think, is fair - if there's continued upticks in performance and talent (recruits) as well as no off the court incidents.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Anyone know the last time a team didnt shoot 50% on us?

Last week @Georgia

[jonny09]

This team is 100 percent inept defensively.  Scary bad

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Got blitzed at the start of the second half. Wisconsin a good and experienced opponent. Not sure why all the negativity towards the program bubbles up for a bad 10 minutes. Sure it's Bucky but lighten up a little.

[Herman Cain]

Got blitzed at the start of the second half. Wisconsin a good and experienced opponent. Not sure why all the negativity towards the program bubbles up for a bad 10 minutes. Sure it's Bucky but lighten up a little.

We have a terrible coach. Until we get rid of him we are mired in mediocrity.

[nyg]

And your vote for MUs best?


Please just replay the 2nd half.  That's all.

Still haven't answered the question.  Who is MU's best player. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Bunchy of hairy wet cats in here. I hate losing. I hate losing to Bucky even more. But a single digit loss to a top 20 team is hardly something to burn the house down for.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Bunchy of hairy wet cats in here. I hate losing. I hate losing to Bucky even more. But a single digit loss to a top 20 team is hardly something to burn the house down for.

+84

[breadtree]

Is there a rationale for the hit to the face on Howard not being called?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketballs-5-biggest-rule-changes-this-season-things-to-know/

5. Offensive players will be granted more natural movement with the ball
This is a point of emphasis that should allow for a freer game on both ends. Offensive and defensive players are allowed a certain amount of space to make natural, normal basketball moves. For the offense, a "normal basketball play" starts with either a shot attempt, a pass or a dribble. In a sentence: An offensive player should be able to make a move without having someone jamming up on them and restricting them.

https://youtu.be/S4hkblhCl-U?t=13m48s

[PGsHeroes32]

Bunchy of hairy wet cats in here. I hate losing. I hate losing to Bucky even more. But a single digit loss to a top 20 team is hardly something to burn the house down for.

Collapse after collapse is.

It's 100% coaching

[forgetful]

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketballs-5-biggest-rule-changes-this-season-things-to-know/

5. Offensive players will be granted more natural movement with the ball
This is a point of emphasis that should allow for a freer game on both ends. Offensive and defensive players are allowed a certain amount of space to make natural, normal basketball moves. For the offense, a "normal basketball play" starts with either a shot attempt, a pass or a dribble. In a sentence: An offensive player should be able to make a move without having someone jamming up on them and restricting them.

https://youtu.be/S4hkblhCl-U?t=13m48s

The key is the defense is entitled to their cylinder also, and allowed space for normal basketball moves.  When the play started, UW's player had his back to Howard.  Howard had the right to the vertical space he was in.  When the UW player turns and swings elbows through that space, he commits the foul, as he is not entitle to the defensive players space. 

Easy call.  Refs got it completely wrong.  Now, review can only determine if it should have been a flagrant on UW (not change the call).  It shouldn't have been a flagrant. 

Refs got the call wrong, but the review right.  Was one of many 2nd half calls that were absurdly bad (all benefitting UW).  Doesn't matter though, our poor defense and offense during the 16-0 run lost this game. 

[1SE]

Collapse after collapse is.

It's 100% coaching

This.

[warriorstrack]

Yep MU crap the bed at the start of the 2nd half

[4everwarriors]

Did Wojo coach Howard ta 22, hey?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

We have a terrible coach. Until we get rid of him we are mired in mediocrity.

He definitely needs to stop coaching JJJ to make horrendous turnover and not bother playing defense.  if only he could somehow motivate a highly ranked senior to stop playing like a two star freshman.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Collapse after collapse is.

It's 100% coaching

Its not collapse after collapse. Its college basketball. We've lost to two teams we were supposed to and one that is about our level. If you listened to the posters who usually know there stuff, we are exactly where we thought we would be, 3-3 against the better teams and undefeated against the low majors.

Its also never 100% coaching. Wojo has some learning to do. But the players, specifically the seniors, need to execute.

[bradley center bat]

let's go badgers chant at the bradley center. wojo should be embarrassed

Just like Bo was when the WeAre Marquette chant broke out at Kohl Center last year.

[#UnleashSean]

Collapse after collapse is.

It's 100% coaching

This is something not a lot of people get. We continue to see Marquette either winning or keeping the game close until some point in the second half where the other team goes on an insane run where Marquette can not score, commits stupid fouls, and stupid turnovers.

Then we come back here and talk about how we ran with them and just went on a cold spree. That's true if it happens once in a blue moon. This crap happens all the time.

Just this year. Pittsburgh, Georgia, Fresno, and Wisconsin. Im not even going to attempt to look back to last years.

This is a pattern. Patterns are coaching errors.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

This is something not a lot of people get. We continue to see Marquette either winning or keeping the game close until some point in the second half where the other team goes on an insane run where Marquette can not score, commits stupid fouls, and stupid turnovers.
I voted we would fold after a lead. The team lacks someone who wants the ball at the end of the game and plays tough defense at the other end. A leader will emerge ,hopefully
Then we come back here and talk about how we ran with them and just went on a cold spree. That's true if it happens once in a blue moon. This crap happens all the time.

Just this year. Pittsburgh, Georgia, Fresno, and Wisconsin. Im not even going to attempt to look back to last years.

This is a pattern. Patterns are coaching errors.

[tower912]

JjJ not showing up in big games, like NY = coaching error.
Getting manhandled by bigger, more physical teams= coaching error.
Duane unable to shoot the ball into Lake Michigan= coaching error. 
Scoring 80+ pts against Wisconsin=Coaching error.   
Lack of upperclassmen willing to lead=coaching error.

MU's problems are size related (we don't have any) which leads to defensive failings when our only big ends up guarding people 20 ft from the basket.     Which I started predicting 6 months ago.   

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I hear the women are out for blood tomorrow.

[mayfairskatingrink]

Just like Bo was when the WeAre Marquette chant broke out at Kohl Center last year.

C'mon, there was real turmoil in that program then.

MU (and Wojo) has no such excuse.

[#UnleashSean]

JjJ not showing up in big games, like NY = coaching error.
Getting manhandled by bigger, more physical teams= coaching error.
Duane unable to shoot the ball into Lake Michigan= coaching error. 
Scoring 80+ pts against Wisconsin=Coaching error.   
Lack of upperclassmen willing to lead=coaching error.

MU's problems are size related (we don't have any) which leads to defensive failings when our only big ends up guarding people 20 ft from the basket.     Which I started predicting 6 months ago.   

I remember another Marquette team that had less size. They were ranked. Some things are out of Wojos control. But trying to put off any blame from him is like turning a blind eye praying it will work out.