Nice Buzz Article

[79Warrior]

I very well may be. But that was yet another thing MU gave Bert his way about. It was either Bert or Larry, and it was Bert.

Whatever. Now they are both gone so what's your point.

[wadesworld]

Whatever. Now they are both gone so what's your point.

My point was to respond to MUFINY's point.

[Billy Hoyle]

He left the program because MU, in its infinite wisdom, hired two dingbats. Pilarz and Larry Williams.

And yet Scuzz got both of them run and he still bailed for a lesser job. Williams was brought in to reign in the out of control Scuzz was creating with sexual assaults, assistants being forced to take the fall for violations, brawls at clubs, academic standards and performance dropping faster than a rock thrown off the US Bank building and he used donors to win the battle against decency and then left. F that phony hillbilly.

[Billy Hoyle]

We ran off a guy who was our second best coach ever and replaced him with a guy who thought Sandy Cohen was better than Deonte Burton. That made a lot of sense.

Ran off? Buzz won, Larry was gone the end of December 2013. Buzz bailed March 2014.

And don't forget, Burton's decision to transfer was personal after his mother passed.

[keefe]

Bert knew how to win but he is a weird f#ck. I mean, a really weird f#ck.

AMF you piece of sh1t.

[#UnleashSean]

We ran off a guy who was our second best coach ever and replaced him with a guy who thought Sandy Cohen was better than Deonte Burton. That made a lot of sense.

Best thing I've ever read.

[vogue65]

He was interesting to listen to, not much coach speak.  He had a sense of humor and was/is creative, unlike most coaches and most people on Scoop.  We went from one extreme to another, typical kneeknee-jerk reaction, an over correction.

[rocket surgeon]

buzz came in here as an unknown, he rode in with a beat up station wagon and drove off in a mercedes and a range rover.  he captured everyone thru a combo of winning and "buzz-speak" and then we got to know him...the end

[vogue65]

buzz came in here as an unknown, he rode in with a beat up station wagon and drove off in a mercedes and a range rover.  he captured everyone thru a combo of winning and "buzz-speak" and then we got to know him...the end

[vogue65]

Isn't that what we are about?  Or might I  say that is what we were about.  Now we come in with a BMW and leave with an attitide.

[wadesworld]

He was interesting to listen to, not much coach speak.  He had a sense of humor and was/is creative, unlike most coaches and most people on Scoop.  We went from one extreme to another, typical kneeknee-jerk reaction, an over correction.

It was neither a knee jerk reaction not an over reaction. It was 100% necessary. This isn't Cincinnati or West Virginia. There's a reason Huggins and Bert got along so well. They are one in the same.

[jesmu84]

And yet Scuzz got both of them run and he still bailed for a lesser job. Williams was brought in to reign in the out of control Scuzz was creating with sexual assaults, assistants being forced to take the fall for violations, brawls at clubs, academic standards and performance dropping faster than a rock thrown off the US Bank building and he used donors to win the battle against decency and then left. F that phony hillbilly.

What brawl?

[tower912]

The one where a bunch of players got cited for not drinking in a bar while under the age of 21.

[jesmu84]

The one where a bunch of players got cited for not drinking in a bar while under the age of 21.

I figured that's what he was referencing. The incident where some jackass WI sports radio guys carried the initial report of a brawl that didn't exist. So... He's wrong, is basically where I was going

[4everwarriors]

Crean's a bs'in' mf'er who is badly in need of an enema, hey?

[Golden Avalanche]

Best thing I've ever read.

Weird, since it's fake news. Then again, in 2016, I've been told facts don't matter anymore.

[GoldenWarrior11]

In three years, Buzz has turned VT (a program with absolutely zero basketball history and prestige) into a top-25 basketball program and on course to be dancing in March.  With the pending retirements of Coach K, Roy Williams, Rick Pitino and Jim Boeheim, Buzz (along with Bennett) appears to be the face of the coaching ranks in the ACC for years to come. 

Fans may cry foul and cringe when talking about Buzz, but let's not forget that he did a lot of great things for our school and university while he was here.

Frankly, the fact that Virginia Tech will most likely be going to the NCAA Tournament before Marquette will should speak volumes to where both programs are at right now.

[muwarrior69]

Nice Buzz thread?

[GGGG]

Marquette was right to have a better set of expectations for Buzz and the basketball program.

Marquette was wrong to have SP and LW be the ones to communicate and carry out those expectations.

[GGGG]

In three years, Buzz has turned VT (a program with absolutely zero basketball history and prestige) into a top-25 basketball program and on course to be dancing in March.  With the pending retirements of Coach K, Roy Williams, Rick Pitino and Jim Boeheim, Buzz (along with Bennett) appears to be the face of the coaching ranks in the ACC for years to come. 

Fans may cry foul and cringe when talking about Buzz, but let's not forget that he did a lot of great things for our school and university while he was here.

Frankly, the fact that Virginia Tech will most likely be going to the NCAA Tournament before Marquette will should speak volumes to where both programs are at right now.

Only if you want to ignore a couple of the more unseemly things that occurred during the Buzz regime.

We laugh and chortle when the same ole folks who didn't get their ass kissed the right way tune in with the "Crean sucks" posts.  The more I understand what happened under both eras, the more I think that Crean was a MUCH better fit here.

[79Warrior]

Bert knew how to win but he is a weird f#ck. I mean, a really weird f#ck.

AMF you piece of sh1t.

Keefe, you could say the same thing about about Al. I will take weird over boring milk toast any day of the week.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

It was neither a knee jerk reaction not an over reaction. It was 100% necessary. This isn't Cincinnati or West Virginia. There's a reason Huggins and Bert got along so well. They are one in the same.

Yea - we are morally superior to everyone else!  This is what helps me sleep soundly every night and thoroughly enjoy the last 3 years outside the NCAA tourney.

Seriously there needed to be better tension between what the coach pushed for (and they all push as hard as they can) and what the coach was able to do -- its just that a bunch of dingbats both allowed it to happen and over-reacted when it went poorly.

[Golden Avalanche]

Keefe, you could say the same thing about about Al. I will take weird over boring milk toast any day of the week.

Large tent you have for "weird" when it includes both a colorful NYC personality and a guy who doesn't flush the toilet after defecating.

[wadesworld]

Only if you want to ignore a couple of the more unseemly things that occurred during the Buzz regime.

We laugh and chortle when the same ole folks who didn't get their ass kissed the right way tune in with the "Crean sucks" posts.  The more I understand what happened under both eras, the more I think that Crean was a MUCH better fit here.

+1.

But Crean still does suck.

[wadesworld]

Yea - we are morally superior to everyone else!  This is what helps me sleep soundly every night and thoroughly enjoy the last 3 years outside the NCAA tourney.

Seriously there needed to be better tension between what the coach pushed for (and they all push as hard as they can) and what the coach was able to do -- its just that a bunch of dingbats both allowed it to happen and over-reacted when it went poorly.

Again, to me, there's a difference between "Boys will be boys" and "Boys will be criminal, and I'll help them cover that up."  Some people buy into the "Just win baby" mentality, and as long as that's happening, meh, who cares if the coach wants to bring in kids who start a girl's hair on fire or wants to make sure to get his whole team together to ensure they all have the same story to tell authorities in a sexual assault case involving his players, or refuses to acknowledge any person that isn't directly involved with men's basketball within the athletic department, etc?  And that's fine and their right.  Me?  I want to win, but if it comes down to having a few seasons below the standard Marquette has set for itself on the court before we start winning at that level again in order to clean up the major issues within the basketball program or just continue to become Cinci of the Thuggins days I'll take the couple down seasons before we're back to where we need to be.

Morally superior or just different strokes for different folks, call it what you want.  I'll ride that high horse.