Can Aaron Rodgers Be the Type of Leader the Packers Need | BleacherReport

[MerrittsMustache]

Olivia Munn is super hot.

This comment is the most ridiculous one made on this thread.


As for Rodgers, he's always been a weird dude. He's selfish, thin-skinned and aloof. As long as he was winning football games, no one cared. If/when he goes back to winning football games, no one will care again. Only when the team struggles does it become a topic of conversation. IOW, who cares? Brady is also aloof. Russell Wilson is a phony. Peyton is a hot-head. You win and you can be whatever you want.

[tower912]

This comment is the most ridiculous one made on this thread.


As for Rodgers, he's always been a weird dude. He's selfish, thin-skinned and aloof. As long as he was winning football games, no one cared. If/when he goes back to winning football games, no one will care again. Only when the team struggles does it become a topic of conversation. IOW, who cares? Brady is also aloof. Russell Wilson is a phony. Peyton is a hot-head. You win and you can be whatever you want.

See: Williams, Buzz.

[MU B2002]

The claim that Rodgers isn't a born winner is laughable, and I hate the Packers, but cmon.


It isn't Aaron's fault that Capers defense continues to get torched.

[Spotcheck Billy]

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[Vander Blue Man Group]

This comment is the most ridiculous one made on this thread.


As for Rodgers, he's always been a weird dude. He's selfish, thin-skinned and aloof. As long as he was winning football games, no one cared. If/when he goes back to winning football games, no one will care again. Only when the team struggles does it become a topic of conversation. IOW, who cares? Brady is also aloof. Russell Wilson is a phony. Peyton is a hot-head. You win and you can be whatever you want.

That was the point.  Also, she is.   

[Goose]

MU B2002

Again, not saying AR is a loser, but far from a high level winner. Way too lazy to dig up all the stats, but I can assure you that there is a great deal of evidence to prove that he is far from a world class winner. The stats against top D's, win/loss record against teams with winning record, road record, one year wonder in playoffs and list goes on and on. He stacks up very poorly in all of these categories against Brady and Wilson.

My only gripe against Rodgers is that he got free pass for the one SB run. Aside from racking up crazy stats I have not seen winning at the highest level. Bob McGinn of Milwaukee JS has been exposing AR miscues for the past six weeks and first time I have seen any reporter question his performance. McGinn went as far as to say that saying AR is HOF lock talk needs to stop.

[wadesworld]

MU B2002

Again, not saying AR is a loser, but far from a high level winner. Way too lazy to dig up all the stats, but I can assure you that there is a great deal of evidence to prove that he is far from a world class winner. The stats against top D's, win/loss record against teams with winning record, road record, one year wonder in playoffs and list goes on and on. He stacks up very poorly in all of these categories against Brady and Wilson.

My only gripe against Rodgers is that he got free pass for the one SB run. Aside from racking up crazy stats I have not seen winning at the highest level. Bob McGinn of Milwaukee JS has been exposing AR miscues for the past six weeks and first time I have seen any reporter question his performance. McGinn went as far as to say that saying AR is HOF lock talk needs to stop.

McGinn has been butt hurt since 2 off seasons ago with the Packers.  Aaron Rodgers could retire today and he'd be a lock for the HOF the first day he's eligible.

[tower912]

Testify.    Just about anybody with a quarterback not named Brady or Wilson looks at the Packer QB with envy.   

[Goose]

Wade

Why is McGinn "butt hurt" with the Packers?

[wadesworld]

Wade

Why is McGinn "butt hurt" with the Packers?

McGinn is butt hurt because the Packers were butt hurt about Michael Cohen's article about Letroy Guion's history of legal issues, because the Packers like to ride around on their high horses and act like they don't put up with any sort of character issues within their organization.  So when Cohen (who I believe was very new with the JS and very new covering the Packers) looked further into Guion's history following his drug/gun arrest in Florida 2 off seasons ago the Packers were beyond furious about it and used it as yet another excuse for why their season went in the crapper.  The Packers were completely at fault there, but ever since then McGinn has made every attempt he can to try to bash Rodgers, Mac, Thompson, and the Packers.  Some of the stuff is legitimate (his article on the problems Rodgers is having this season) and other stuff is complete garbage (saying Rodgers isn't a HOF QB...he could never complete another pass in his life and he'd be a sure fire, first ballot HOFer).

[GGGG]

MU B2002

Again, not saying AR is a loser, but far from a high level winner. Way too lazy to dig up all the stats, but I can assure you that there is a great deal of evidence to prove that he is far from a world class winner. The stats against top D's, win/loss record against teams with winning record, road record, one year wonder in playoffs and list goes on and on. He stacks up very poorly in all of these categories against Brady and Wilson.

Aaron Rodgers stats in the playoffs are significantly better than Russell Wilson's.

Seriously this "far from a high level winner" line is just garbage.  You give Aaron Rodgers Seattle's defense and running game, and it wouldn't even be a comparison.

[brandx]

Aaron Rodgers stats in the playoffs are significantly better than Russell Wilson's.

Seriously this "far from a high level winner" line is just garbage.  You give Aaron Rodgers Seattle's defense and running game, and it wouldn't even be a comparison.

It would be a dynasty.

Only once in the last 7 years has the Packers "D' ranked in the top 10 in Pts. allowed. The result? A Super Bowl.

Since that SB win, their average defensive ranking in Points Allowed is 19th. Apparently, that is proof that Aaron is not a "winner".

[Goose]

Wade

Just curious on how you know McGinn is making up garbage? Only asking because I felt and heard he was widely respected nationally. Disappointed to hear a highly regarded guy would resort to making up garbage.

[Eldon]

Don't forget that ARod had Jennings and Driver in those first three-four seasons.  How good is ARod when he has average to crappy receivers?  Does he step his game up?  Apparently not. 

Everyone cites ARod's statistics and QB ratings in those years, but they often neglect the fact that GB's wide receivers fought hard for yards-after-the-catch, for which ARod's stats get credit. 

Also keep in mind that his INT numbers were deflated by the fact that he held onto the ball forever, leading to him being the most-sacked QB in NFL history (not reflected in stats such as QB rating).  He would wait to pass until his receivers were wide open.

He is far from a first-ballot HOFer, IMO.  And still not a lock for HOF, IMO. 

Man, I just read what I wrote here and I come off as a huge sipper of hater-ade.  Ah well.

[GGGG]

Well of course quarterbacks are better when they have better players around them.  Joe Montana had Jerry frekin' Rice for goodness sakes, but he still had to make the plays. 

[🏀]

Don't forget that ARod had Jennings and Driver in those first three-four seasons.  How good is ARod when he has average to crappy receivers?  Does he step his game up?  Apparently not. 

Everyone cites ARod's statistics and QB ratings in those years, but they often neglect the fact that GB's wide receivers fought hard for yards-after-the-catch, for which ARod's stats get credit. 

Also keep in mind that his INT numbers were deflated by the fact that he held onto the ball forever, leading to him being the most-sacked QB in NFL history (not reflected in stats such as QB rating).  He would wait to pass until his receivers were wide open.

He is far from a first-ballot HOFer, IMO.  And still not a lock for HOF, IMO. 

Man, I just read what I wrote here and I come off as a huge sipper of hater-ade.  Ah well.

Were Jennings and Driver really that good of receivers in the spectrum of receivers?

[Goose]

Rodgers must have either very good surrounding cast or be the GOAT because for six years in a row Pack has been top three SB favorite going into the season. The experts definitely felt he has talent around him going into every season.

[tower912]

Rodgers is that good.   Or more to the point, the perception around the NFL is that Rodgers is good enough to make a team with myriad weaknesses a Super Bowl contender.    I feel like we are in bizarro-world here, actually debating whether or not AR is a leader. 

[Goose]

Tower
Are you a Packer fan?

[GGGG]

Rodgers must have either very good surrounding cast or be the GOAT because for six years in a row Pack has been top three SB favorite going into the season. The experts definitely felt he has talent around him going into every season.

So it's the quarterback's fault whenever a team fails to meet expectations?

[tower912]

Tower
Are you a Packer fan?

No.

[HouWarrior]

This might be a good time to review the posts of just a few weeks ago dumping on Rodgers.

Without him what would have been the score/result of the Cowboys game?

[tower912]

I don't have to walk back a thing.   Woot. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

That was the point.  Also, she is.

I don't think it is disputable.  Vander is dead accurate.

[brandx]

This might be a good time to review the posts of just a few weeks ago dumping on Rodgers.

Without him what would have been the score/result of the Cowboys game?

To be accurate, it was mainly two guys dumping on him - but, wow, they made some pretty silly comments.

Not a leader? May not make HOF? I'm guessing those two haven't watched a lot of football.

But, 34 points might not be enough next week. May need 40 to win.