1,000 point scorers

[Its DJOver]

Just out of curiosity what did last years seniors finish with?

[brewcity77]

Just out of curiosity what did last years seniors finish with?

• Luke Fischer finished with 1,014 Marquette points & 1,051 total points.
  
• Jajuan Johnson finished with 1,013 points.
  
• Duane Wilson finished with 908 points. He passed 1,000 career points in his most recent game at Texas A&M and now is at 1,003 points.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Just out of curiosity what did last years seniors finish with?

Katin - 1444 career points, 313 points at Marquette
Luke - 1051 career points, 1014 points at Marquette
JJJ - 1013 career points


JJJ got past 1000 in his very last game. Luke got there in the BET loss.

EDIT: Damn, Brew was quicker on the draw

[SaveOD238]

Rowsey could have had the all time record if he started here. ha. If Howard stays all 4, he'll break Mcneal's.

Assuming 32 games per season (hoping for more), Markus needs to put up 15.7 per game to catch McNeal.  If we play deeper into the postseason, he could zoom past Jerel, especially if his average is closer to 20 or more.  Dude could put the record away by a mile.

If you add Rowsey's numbers from Asheville and Marquette, he is at 1833, which would only trail Jerel and Lazar in MU history.  If he reaches 1000 points at Marquette, his career total would eclipse Jerel's by about 250.

[muwarrior69]

Not trying to diminish Markus' accomplishments thus far, but George Thompson averaged 591 points per season. If he scored his average over 4 years instead of three his all time record would be 2364 and that is without a 3pt basket or the 30 second shot clock. I don't believe he played in more than 30 games in a season in any of his 3 years.

[Galway Eagle]

Not trying to diminish Markus' accomplishments thus far, but George Thompson averaged 591 points per season. If he scored his average over 4 years instead of three his all time record would be 2364 and that is without a 3pt basket or the 30 second shot clock. I don't believe he played in more than 30 games in a season in any of his 3 years.

Generally when a person starts a sentence with "not trying to..." that's exactly what they're doing.

[GooooMarquette]

Generally when a person starts a sentence with "not trying to..." that's exactly what they're doing.

Kinda like "with all due respect..."

[We R Final Four]

"No offense.........."

[4everwarriors]

"I don't mean this in a bad way," hey?

[Cooby Snacks]

"Having said that..."

[🏀]

"I'm not racist, but..."

[real chili 83]

Oops, sorry about that...

[bork]

Not trying to diminish Markus' accomplishments thus far, but George Thompson averaged 591 points per season. If he scored his average over 4 years instead of three his all time record would be 2364 and that is without a 3pt basket or the 30 second shot clock. I don't believe he played in more than 30 games in a season in any of his 3 years.

It's easier to just look at scoring average among the 1000 point list.
Thompson - 20.4
Wade - 19.7
Meminger - 18.8
Kojis - 18.6
Wolf - 18.3

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Honestly,...

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Not trying to be a dick but,...

[brewcity77]

NM

[bilsu]

The first scoring threshold to be reached this season is 2,000 career points by Rowsey. Currently he is at 1,833. I assuming 9 games, which will be against DePaul at home. Might be more likely that he achieves it in 10 with a game at Xavier. The game after that would be at home against Villanova.

[forgetful]

The first scoring threshold to be reached this season is 2,000 career points by Rowsey. Currently he is at 1,833. I assuming 9 games, which will be against DePaul at home. Might be more likely that he achieves it in 10 with a game at Xavier. The game after that would be at home against Villanova.

Curious, how does that work with transfers.  Would it count as MU's first 2000 pt scorer?

[brewcity77]

Curious, how does that work with transfers.  Would it count as MU's first 2000 pt scorer?

I don't think so. It's a great accomplishment, but not like he gets credit for posting Jerel and Lazar when he scored more than half his points somewhere else.

[brewcity77]

Thought the 9-day break would be a good time to bump this. Here's the current update:

• Markus Howard, 819 points Howard has ran hot and cold since the last update, scoring 25+ ppg three times and <15 six times, with nothing in between. Still, he averaged 20.4 in that 9-game span and is 181 away from 1,000. His season average pace would have him pass the 1,000 point mark at DePaul on February 24.
  
• Andrew Rowsey, 766 points Rowsey cracked the 2,000 point mark for his career last night when you include his UNC-Asheville scoring.  He's the first player in a Marquette uniform to reach that plateau. Similar to Howard, he's been mercurial the past 9 games, going for 30+ ppg three times and <20 six times. He needs 234 to reach 1,000 in a Marquette uniform and is on pace to do that in our first Big East Tournament game at Madison Square Garden. Rowsey has minimally increased his scoring average in conference play (21 ppg vs 20.8 ppg for the season) so if the keeps it up, we'll have something to celebrate in NYC.

Also, kudos to bilsu, who correctly predicted Rowsey passing the 2,000 point mark against DePaul. He was so close to having it at Butler; his career total was 1,999 after that game.

Finally, I noticed that Sam Hauser last night eclipsed his single season point total from a year ago. He now has 287 on the season after a 281 point freshman campaign. Another Sam note, his 3PFG% is now at 49.6% for the season. He's 23rd in the country and a ways off the national lead (SMU's Ben Emelogu is at 58.9%) but what stands out for Sam is that of all the players in the top-25, he has by far the most attempts at 121. No other top-25 sniper is within 30 attempts of him, and looking up the standings, he has more attempts than the next three players ahead of him combined. It will be interesting to see if those other shooters can sustain their percentages as the season goes on. If Sam can get slightly ahead of his current numbers (he is at 50% in conference play) and the shooters ahead of him come back down as their attempts mount up, we could be looking at a second MU player making a run at the national 3PFG% crown in 2 years.

[oldwarrior81]

It's easier to just look at scoring average among the 1000 point list.
Thompson - 20.4
Wade - 19.7
Meminger - 18.8
Kojis - 18.6
Wolf - 18.3

Mike Moran also at 18.6

Chones finished up at 19.0 in his 50 games.  Ending with a total of 952 points.
For comparison, last night was Sam's 51st game.   Hard to grasp he has more games in a MU uniform than Jimmy did.

[oldwarrior81]

Besides Sam passing last years point total against DePaul, Andrew passed his junior season total on Friday vs. Butler.  Markus has 409 this season, which is one point shy of last season.

[brewcity77]

We have another week break, so it seemed like a good time for a bump:

• Markus Howard, 957 points: Howard is just 43 points shy of reaching 1,000 points for his career. I believe he would be the first Marquette player to reach that as a sophomore. His 21.9 ppg average would put him on pace to get there against St. John's at home on Feb. 21, though with his streakiness it wouldn't surprise me if he did it at Creighton next Saturday or if it took him until the first week of March.
  
• Andrew Rowsey, 857 points: Rowsey is exactly 100 points behind Howard and his current 19.4 ppg average would have him needing 8 games. He's guaranteed 6 more, so that means either a couple wins at MSG or some form of postseason play, either the NCAA or NIT.
  
• Sam Hauser, 637 points: Sam will NOT get close this year, but I thought I'd add him in for perspective. He is level with Wesley Matthews for points scored as a sophomore. He might be hard pressed to reach Jerel's 769 as a sophomore (would take 10 games based on his 14.2 ppg average) but he will have a good chance to make the top-10 all time in Marquette scoring. I expect he'll need at least 1674 career points to get there, as Howard seems like a lock to get into the top-10 and could do so as soon as next year.

I did some research on the sophomore to 1,000 list. Dominic James got close (979), but didn't quite make it. George Thompson, Dwyane Wade, and Darius Johnson-Odom all got there in two years but were juniors when they eclipsed 1,000.

[GooooMarquette]

We have another week break, so it seemed like a good time for a bump:

• Markus Howard, 957 points: Howard is just 43 points shy of reaching 1,000 points for his career. I believe he would be the first Marquette player to reach that as a sophomore. His 21.9 ppg average would put him on pace to get there against St. John's at home on Feb. 21, though with his streakiness it wouldn't surprise me if he did it at Creighton next Saturday or if it took him until the first week of March.
  
• Andrew Rowsey, 857 points: Rowsey is exactly 100 points behind Howard and his current 19.4 ppg average would have him needing 8 games. He's guaranteed 6 more, so that means either a couple wins at MSG or some form of postseason play, either the NCAA or NIT.
  
• Sam Hauser, 637 points: Sam will NOT get close this year, but I thought I'd add him in for perspective. He is level with Wesley Matthews for points scored as a sophomore. He might be hard pressed to reach Jerel's 769 as a sophomore (would take 10 games based on his 14.2 ppg average) but he will have a good chance to make the top-10 all time in Marquette scoring. I expect he'll need at least 1674 career points to get there, as Howard seems like a lock to get into the top-10 and could do so as soon as next year.

I did some research on the sophomore to 1,000 list. Dominic James got close (979), but didn't quite make it. George Thompson, Dwyane Wade, and Darius Johnson-Odom all got there in two years but were juniors when they eclipsed 1,000.

Thanks for the update.  I like that you noted Markus' streakiness - certainly true - but I looked up Andrew and Sam's game by game stats, and they run really hot and cold too.

Markus - low of 7; high of 53
Andrew - low of 0; high of 35
Sam - low of 2; high of 30

[bilsu]

We have another week break, so it seemed like a good time for a bump:

• Markus Howard, 957 points: Howard is just 43 points shy of reaching 1,000 points for his career. I believe he would be the first Marquette player to reach that as a sophomore. His 21.9 ppg average would put him on pace to get there against St. John's at home on Feb. 21, though with his streakiness it wouldn't surprise me if he did it at Creighton next Saturday or if it took him until the first week of March.
  
• Andrew Rowsey, 857 points: Rowsey is exactly 100 points behind Howard and his current 19.4 ppg average would have him needing 8 games. He's guaranteed 6 more, so that means either a couple wins at MSG or some form of postseason play, either the NCAA or NIT.
  
• Sam Hauser, 637 points: Sam will NOT get close this year, but I thought I'd add him in for perspective. He is level with Wesley Matthews for points scored as a sophomore. He might be hard pressed to reach Jerel's 769 as a sophomore (would take 10 games based on his 14.2 ppg average) but he will have a good chance to make the top-10 all time in Marquette scoring. I expect he'll need at least 1674 career points to get there, as Howard seems like a lock to get into the top-10 and could do so as soon as next year.

I did some research on the sophomore to 1,000 list. Dominic James got close (979), but didn't quite make it. George Thompson, Dwyane Wade, and Darius Johnson-Odom all got there in two years but were juniors when they eclipsed 1,000.

Howard needs 24 points to tie Wade for the highest scoring sophomore season. I always wondered how they would of treated Wade's numbers if he stayed five years. He was a partial qualifier, which at that time meant he had to sit out his first year, but if he got his degree in four years the NCAA would of allowed him to play another year. In that case would his sophomore numbers been reclassed as freshmen numbers?