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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: brewcity77 on November 01, 2016, 10:19:41 AM
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I thought I'd revive this with new candidates to get to 1,000 career points at Marquette in the 2017-18 season. We have only two real candidates to get there. Sam Hauser would have to average 22.6 ppg with Marquette making it to both the Big East Tournament final and the Sweet 16 to have a shot. I don't see any way he increases his average by 9 points the rest of the way, so we're left with our backcourt:
- Markus Howard, 635 points: Howard has 635 career points through 10 games of his sophomore year. With his current 22.5 ppg scoring average, he is on pace to eclipse 1,000 points on February 17 at Creighton. While he may see his scoring average tail off a bit in conference play, it seems likely that Marquette will play at least 32 games this season (1 BET, 1 postseason) since currently a 16-15 record would land a RPI around 75 and SOS of 27, which is likely good enough for the NIT, and MU has a good shot to eclipse that record. That means Howard only has to average 16.6 ppg the rest of the way to assure himself 1,000 points as a sophomore. Has any MU player ever done that before? I'm sure Brute Force did it in two years, but not sure about the true sophomore aspect.
- Andrew Rowsey, 589 points: Rowsey has 589 points at Marquette and is averaging 21.8 ppg this year. At that rate, he would eclipse 1,000 points in the penultimate game at Georgetown. Not impossible to think he could do it on his senior night as well. If we assume 32 games this season, Rowsey has to average 18.7 ppg the rest of the way to reach 1,000. It's a harder road for him, but not impossible, and would make him a 1,000 point scorer at two different schools (he had 1,244 at UNC-Asheville).
My guess at this point, Howard will get there, Rowsey will depend on how far we go in March tournaments. I expect both of their scoring averages to drop come conference play, but it could be an interesting February and March for stat watchers.
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2016-17 Version
With some upperclassmen, I was thinking about our last 1,000 point scorer. Davante Gardner reached the landmark in 2013-14 and is our only 1,000 point scorer since Jae Crowder and Darius Johnson-Odom left in 2012. This year we could see as many as four (though more likely three) players eclipse that mark.
1,000 Career Points
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- Duane Wilson, 764 points: Even if Duane's role is reduced, he only needs 236 points to reach 1,000. That would require 7.6 ppg for Duane as a junior. Barring injury, this will happen.
- Luke Fischer, 664 points: To reach 1,000 Luke would need to post 336 points, which would be fewer than he put up last year. Fischer would need to average around 10.8 ppg for 31 games. Seems likely after scoring 12.1 ppg a year ago. Luke did score 37 points at Indiana as well, but I'm basing this off what he did in a Marquette uniform.
- Jajuan Johnson, 642 points: Jajuan needs 358 points, which would be a career high and he needs about 11.5 ppg. If he plays an entire season like he did during the latter half of Big East play, he'll do it easily.
- Haanif Cheatham, 391 points: Considering the depth at guard, this seems highly unlikely. Haani would need to average around 19.6 ppg this year. My guess is he will eclipse 1,000 points, but more likely early in his junior year.
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Just one more thing to get excited about this season, especially in the latter half of the season. Another interesting thing to watch will be Andrew Rowsey's career. He scored over 1,000 at UNC-Asheville. Will he play a big enough role to reach that mark in 2 years at Marquette? He would probably need to average around 15.9 ppg to get there over his two seasons. If we made runs in the Big East and NCAA Tournament, he could reach that mark averaging 14.3 ppg (assuming a 70 game career).
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Nice post. Hope atleast jjj and fish get there this year as they are seniors
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Nice post.
+1. Watching players develop over the course of their careers is one of my favorite things about being a Marquette fan. It's good to recognize milestones along the way.
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When is the last time that MU had three 1000-point scorers on their roster at the same time?
(All of whom had 1000 points at the time)
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When is the last time that MU had three 1000-point scorers on their roster at the same time?
(All of whom had 1000 points at the time)
Senior year of The Amigos. I believed that team had 4, since Lazar joined the club that season as well.
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Senior year of The Amigos. I believed that team had 4, since Lazar joined the club that season as well.
That's correct. We did have teams with three 1,000 point career scorers since then, but not when they already had that total. 2010 had Lazar, DJO, and Jimmy, 2011 had DJO, Jimmy, Jae, and Davante, and 2012 had DJO, Jae, and Davante.
What's interesting is that this year, we could actually have FIVE guys on the roster at the same time with 1,000+ career points. Both Andrew Rowsey and Katin Reinhardt have already accumulated over 1,000 points in their career. From none on the roster in two years to five in the same season. If our defense is any kind of decent, this could be a very exciting team. Such a wealth of scoring options, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if in a couple years, the most prolific career scorers on this roster end up being Cheatham and Howard.
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JJJ is going off this year. 20 ppg go to scoring option
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JJJ is going off this year. 20 ppg go to scoring option
Gotta get a taste of what you're drinkin
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Gotta get a taste of what you're drinkin
Hopefully he has at least 13
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JJJ is going off this year. 20 ppg go to scoring option
I don't think anyone will get close to that. Too many different options for one player to average that much. I do think we could see 6-7 guys averaging double digits though.
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With 4 years of eligibility, the shot clock and the 3 pointer a 1000 points does not seem to be a great accomplishment. George Thompsons career scoring record seems so much more formidable by comparison.
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With 4 years of eligibility, the shot clock and the 3 pointer a 1000 points does not seem to be a great accomplishment. George Thompsons career scoring record seems so much more formidable by comparison.
I don't think the OP was comparing Duane Wilson to George Thompson or any past MU greats. It's a simple acknowledgement of a player milestone.
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With 4 years of eligibility, the shot clock and the 3 pointer a 1000 points does not seem to be a great accomplishment.
For me the most impressive career stat is that 4 of Marquette's Top 9 Career Scorers all played on the same court for 3 years. McNeal, Hayward, James and Matthews. Its almost impossible to believe given MU's long history of great players that those guys could be complementary enough to play together and still run up those career stats.
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I think there will be plenty of chances to score. I think MU gets at least 4 games where they score at least 100 and I think our season scoring average ends up somewhere in the top 20, like 80ish.
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For me the most impressive career stat is that 4 of Marquette's Top 9 Career Scorers all played on the same court for 3 years. McNeal, Hayward, James and Matthews. Its almost impossible to believe given MU's long history of great players that those guys could be complementary enough to play together and still run up those career stats.
And yet they won a total of 1 NCAA Tournament game. Thanks Crean.
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And yet they won a total of 1 NCAA Tournament game. Thanks Crean.
Actually, they won 2. One was with Buzz.
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Actually, they won 2. One was with Buzz.
And James broken foot ruined what could very well have been at least an E8 run. They were ranked 8th, IIRC, when Dom broke his foot vs. Duke, and with all those upperclassmen I think they had a great chance to make a deep run.
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Actually, they won 2. One was with Buzz.
Ahh thanks.
And James broken foot ruined what could very well have been at least an E8 run. They were ranked 8th, IIRC, when Dom broke his foot vs. Duke, and with all those upperclassmen I think they had a great chance to make a deep run.
Vs. UCONN. But yes.
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And yet they won a total of 1 NCAA Tournament game. Thanks Crean.
True. We should recall that Crean got us to NCAA tourney's on the regular, after inheriting a program that was truly a mess and devoid of talent following Deane's years. Now that was a true rebuild. There was also that Final Four trip too. Let's hope we can soon say "Thanks Wojo," and that he can replicate Crean's success here at MU. I'd be happy with Wojo as coach if he can perform comparably to Crean - as I think most MU fans would.
We screwed it up with Buzz. Though there were some of us that were sounding the alarm bell a year in advance, and were called "Tin Foil" Hat Club, etc. Goose. Me.
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True. We should recall that Crean got us to NCAA tourney's on the regular, after inheriting a program that was truly a mess and devoid of talent following Deane's years. Now that was a true rebuild. There was also that Final Four trip too. Let's hope we can soon say "Thanks Wojo," and that he can replicate Crean's success here at MU. I'd be happy with Wojo as coach if he can perform comparably to Crean - as I think most MU fans would.
We screwed it up with Buzz. Though there were some of us that were sounding the alarm bell a year in advance, and were called "Tin Foil" Hat Club, etc. Goose. Me.
Crean was 30-28 in his first 2 years at Marquette. Wojo is 33-32. Fairly comparably so far. One coached in CUSA, the other in the Big East.
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Crean was 30-28 in his first 2 years at Marquette. Wojo is 33-32. Fairly comparably so far. One coached in CUSA, the other in the Big East.
Don't feed him facts........ :P
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Crean was 30-28 in his first 2 years at Marquette. Wojo is 33-32. Fairly comparably so far. One coached in CUSA, the other in the Big East.
And one inherited 6 Top 100 players, one of which was an All Big East Freshman, 3 other Top 100 sophomores, with a program coming off of Sweet 16, Sweet 16, Elite 8, Missed NIT. Not to mention Wojo was recruiting into the Big East, having the Al built, all of which lead to 4-14 in the water downed Big East Year 1, and 8-10 year two, with a Freshman All American and NBA 1st round draft choice. That's a far cry from what Tom Crean walked into at MU.
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Are the cherries already in season? Seems to be a lot of people picking them.
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And one inherited 6 Top 100 players, one of which was an All Big East Freshman, 3 other Top 100 sophomores, with a program coming off of Sweet 16, Sweet 16, Elite 8, Missed NIT. Not to mention Wojo was recruiting into the Big East, having the Al built, all of which lead to 4-14 in the water downed Big East Year 1, and 8-10 year two, with a Freshman All American and NBA 1st round draft choice. That's a far cry from what Tom Crean walked into at MU.
1. The S16 S16 E8 run is irrelevant to this conversation. He took over a team that missed the NIT and lost 4 starters to graduation. 4 SENIOR STARTERS LOST FROM A VERY AVERAGE TEAM.
2. Not only that, he didn't have any time to recruit because he took over in April.
He was left with nothing. I'm pretty open-minded, but anyone that thinks Wojo was left with anything resembling a functional basketball team is wrong. I don't know why I bother, it's admittedly a waste of time.
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With 4 years of eligibility, the shot clock and the 3 pointer a 1000 points does not seem to be a great accomplishment. George Thompsons career scoring record seems so much more formidable by comparison.
To address this, here's the list of 1,000 point scorers:
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/all-time_leading_scorers
I understand it not seeming like the accomplishment it once was, but you still have to be a good, consistent player to get there. Looking down the list at names to reach that milestone in the past 20 or so years, here are the guys:
Jerel McNeal, Lazar Hayward, Dominic James, Travis Diener, Brian Wardle, Wes Matthews, DJO, Steve Novak, Aaron Hutchins, Cordell Henry, Davante Gardner, Dwyane Wade, Jimmy Butler, Scott Merritt, Jae Crowder, Tony Miller
All pretty darn good players, most of them were really good. It's still an accomplishment I'd argue is worth celebrating.
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1. The S16 S16 E8 run is irrelevant to this conversation. He took over a team that missed the NIT and lost 4 starters to graduation. 4 SENIOR STARTERS LOST FROM A VERY AVERAGE TEAM.
2. Not only that, he didn't have any time to recruit because he took over in April.
He was left with nothing. I'm pretty open-minded, but anyone that thinks Wojo was left with anything resembling a functional basketball team is wrong. I don't know why I bother, it's admittedly a waste of time.
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1. The S16 S16 E8 run is irrelevant to this conversation. He took over a team that missed the NIT and lost 4 starters to graduation. 4 SENIOR STARTERS LOST FROM A VERY AVERAGE TEAM.
2. Not only that, he didn't have any time to recruit because he took over in April.
He was left with nothing. I'm pretty open-minded, but anyone that thinks Wojo was left with anything resembling a functional basketball team is wrong. I don't know why I bother, it's admittedly a waste of time.
Okay. You are right. Sorry.
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I take a little exception with #2. Recruiting would include trying to keep the already signed players. He only kept Cohen and seemed to have the attitude he did not want them unless they really wanted to be here. I think he started out with a level of Duke elitism that hurt the start of his coaching career.
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I take a little exception with #2. Recruiting would include trying to keep the already signed players. He only kept Cohen and seemed to have the attitude he did not want them unless they really wanted to be here. I think he started out with a level of Duke elitism that hurt the start of his coaching career.
Easier said than done. Keeping one is about as many as you could hope for when a coach leaves for another program, especially when the new coach is an assistant from a different program who had never spoken to those kids before.
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I take a little exception with #2. Recruiting would include trying to keep the already signed players. He only kept Cohen and seemed to have the attitude he did not want them unless they really wanted to be here. I think he started out with a level of Duke elitism that hurt the start of his coaching career.
My God what a terrible thing for a coach to want. A player who actually WANTS to be at Marquette???
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I take a little exception with #2. Recruiting would include trying to keep the already signed players. He only kept Cohen and seemed to have the attitude he did not want them unless they really wanted to be here. I think he started out with a level of Duke elitism that hurt the start of his coaching career.
Naw. Most of that class had committed to Buzz, not Marquette. No Buzz, no recruit class. Sandy said he always wanted to play for MU and did not have a steady stream of suitors knocking down his door. Ergo......
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I take a little exception with #2. Recruiting would include trying to keep the already signed players. He only kept Cohen and seemed to have the attitude he did not want them unless they really wanted to be here. I think he started out with a level of Duke elitism that hurt the start of his coaching career.
This isn't right. The staff went hard after Shayok but got beat out by someone who'd been on him longer in Bennett. They also wanted Hill, but it was quickly clear he wouldn't be coming. Don't think they put much into Pierce, though had he wanted to I've heard his scholarship would have been offered.
Wojo essentially started with 4 recruits he could go after but was starting from zero while the other coaches had laid the groundwork. That he even retained one in this day and age is pretty impressive.
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Crean was 30-28 in his first 2 years at Marquette. Wojo is 33-32. Fairly comparably so far. One coached in CUSA, the other in the Big East.
Mike Deane was 44-20 in his first two years with an NIT final appearance and an NCAA appearance. His total record at MU was 100-55. Wojo will never come close to equaling Deanes performance the first 5 years. I know everyone will pile on that he had KO's recruits. My take is you still have to coach the games. Wojo had plenty of talent in year one. He made lots of rookie coaching mistakes which have been well chronicled on this site.
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Mike Deane was 44-20 in his first two years with an NIT final appearance and an NCAA appearance. His total record at MU was 100-55. Wojo will never come close to equaling Deanes performance the first 5 years. I know everyone will pile on that he had KO's recruits. My take is you still have to coach the games. Wojo had plenty of talent in year one. He made lots of rookie coaching mistakes which have been well chronicled on this site.
Wojo's best players were Derrick Wilson, Juan Anderson, and Matt Carlino. If you think that's "plenty of talent" more power to you. The good thing is you predicted Hank would be a 4 year college basketball player, so I'm not putting too much stock into your prediction for Wojo's tenure at Marquette.
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Mike Deane was 44-20 in his first two years with an NIT final appearance and an NCAA appearance. His total record at MU was 100-55. Wojo will never come close to equaling Deanes performance the first 5 years. I know everyone will pile on that he had KO's recruits. My take is you still have to coach the games. Wojo had plenty of talent in year one. He made lots of rookie coaching mistakes which have been well chronicled on this site.
This is a blatant falsehood. That first team was both shorthanded and talent deficient. Derrick, Juan, Taylor, and Dawson were undertalented at this level, Cohen, Duane, Burton, and Jajuan were inexperienced, and Carlino was only one guy. You can spout about top-100 players until your tongue falls out, that was a bad team. Period.
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My God what a terrible thing for a coach to want. A player who actually WANTS to be at Marquette???
Originally they wanted to be at MU, so it was more about selling them on the idea of playing for Wojo than playing for MU. The way I understand it Wojo did not even meet with Hill. All recruiters have to be salesmen and part of that requires selling yourself to recruits. Maybe in the end he would not of been able to keep any more than Cohen, but he seemed to give up right away on the three other recruits.
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Originally they wanted to be at MU, so it was more about selling them on the idea of playing for Wojo than playing for MU. The way I understand it Wojo did not even meet with Hill. All recruiters have to be salesmen and part of that requires selling yourself to recruits. Maybe in the end he would not of been able to keep any more than Cohen, but he seemed to give up right away on the three other recruits.
He reached out to them all. Hill made it known that he was going to follow Buzz - or Isaac Chew. Smart idea not to waste time especially considering that he lost no transfers out.
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This is a blatant falsehood. That first team was both shorthanded and talent deficient. Derrick, Juan, Taylor, and Dawson were undertalented at this level, Cohen, Duane, Burton, and Jajuan were inexperienced, and Carlino was only one guy. You can spout about top-100 players until your tongue falls out, that was a bad team. Period.
I think Mike Deane, or any other seasoned coach, would have been delighted to have the talent Wojo had in 2014-15 and gotten much more out of the team. I don't understand why people are not willing to put the blame squarely on Wojo and his inexperience. I think that is where the problem was. Not players. I am pro player and anti coach.
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I don't understand why people are not willing to put the blame squarely on Wojo and his inexperience. I think that is where the problem was. Not players. I am pro player and anti coach.
Maybe because it is not the only reason?
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I think Mike Deane, or any other seasoned coach, would have been delighted to have the talent Wojo had in 2014-15 and gotten much more out of the team. I don't understand why people are not willing to put the blame squarely on Wojo and his inexperience. I think that is where the problem was. Not players. I am pro player and anti coach.
14-15? Shenanigans. The ghosts of Dean Smith and Al McGuire being channeled through Bobby Knight and Coach K could not have gotten a big season from the 14-15 team. I'm not completely sold on Wojo, but he gets a pass for 14-15. In actuality, considering the player defections, injuries, and the fact that some who stayed didn't buy in the way they should to the point that there were DNP-CD's with only 8 scholarship players available, Wojo may have done a better job with that team than 15-16.
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14-15? Shenanigans. The ghosts of Dean Smith and Al McGuire being channeled through Bobby Knight and Coach K could not have gotten a big season from the 14-15 team. I'm not completely sold on Wojo, but he gets a pass for 14-15. In actuality, considering the player defections, injuries, and the fact that some who stayed didn't buy in the way they should to the point that there were DNP-CD's with only 8 scholarship players available, Wojo may have done a better job with that team than 15-16.
That is your view and I respect it. I am like Lazar on this issue and believe those ghosts could have gotten the job done.
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The fact that not a single player from the 2014-15 team has come close to the NBA should tell you that the team was too inexperienced and talent-deficient.
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I think Mike Deane, or any other seasoned coach, would have been delighted to have the talent Wojo had in 2014-15 and gotten much more out of the team. I don't understand why people are not willing to put the blame squarely on Wojo and his inexperience. I think that is where the problem was. Not players. I am pro player and anti coach.
Because we are not fueled by an agenda that is pro one group and anti another. We are pro Marquette, both coaches and players. We see the mistakes that Wojo made as a coach. We also see the deficiencies of the players. We can arguments about which group was more at fault, but as soon as you try to lay the blame entirely on one person's shoulders, your argument loses all credibility. You're trying to make the 8 scholarship squad of 14-15 out to be worldbeaters for Chirissakes. If that doesn't show a biased lens, I don't know what does.
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Mike Deane was a good coach, but by no means a great one. And he couldn't bring in the talent to sustain what Kevin O'Neil accomplished.
It's true, Deane went 100-55 (.645) in 5 seasons at Marquette. But he made only 2 NCAA appearances and missed the postseason completely in his last year — finishing just 14-15 overall, 6-10 in conference (good for 6th place). That's not what I'd call a great coaching performance. Far from it.
Beyond that, Deane coached in the Great Midwest and Conference USA — neither of which ever competed at the same level of the current Big East. Here are the rankings for conference strength during each of his seasons (the number of schools that made the NCAA tournament in parentheses):
1994-95 Great Midwest — 5th (3/7 NCAA teams)
1995-96 Conference USA — 6th (4/11)
1996-97 Conference USA — 8th (4/12)
1997-98 Conference USA — 8th (3/12)
1998-99 Conference USA — 6th (4/12)
And the same rankings during Wojo's first 2 seasons:
2014-15 Big East — 4th (6/10)
2015-16 Big East — 4th (5/10)
In Wojo's first season, there's no disputing that he didn't even have enough scholarship players to hold a 5-on-5 practice. There's also no disputing that the players he did have were mostly holdovers from a 17-15 team that missed the NIT. That doesn't sound like the makings of a great team to me.
And if you look at the schedule, 16 of our 32 games were against NCAA teams: non conference games Ohio State, Michigan State and Wisconsin, plus 13 in conference (including Nova during the Big East tournament). The Big East was truly a beast that year. In fact, it was far tougher than 2013-14, when only 4 Big East teams played in the NCAA.
We'll see how far Wojo can take Marquette. While I'm in the cautious optimist camp, not everyone's convinced. But the idea of deciding he's no good as a coach based on his first season — or declaring that another coach could have done better — makes absolutely no sense to me.
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The fact that anyone can in all seriousness call the 14-15' team "talented" is actually impressive.
It's pretty cliche to say, but that is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard
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I think Mike Deane, or any other seasoned coach, would have been delighted to have the talent Wojo had in 2014-15 and gotten much more out of the team. I don't understand why people are not willing to put the blame squarely on Wojo and his inexperience. I think that is where the problem was. Not players. I am pro player and anti coach.
Mike deane'a your example? The guy that took a team coming off a sweet 16 to the NIT when we should've been a shoe in for the NCAA?
I agree that a more seasoned coach may have won a small handful more games but to think that that team was talented is putting way too much stock in HS recruiting rankings.
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Because we are not fueled by an agenda that is pro one group and anti another. We are pro Marquette, both coaches and players. We see the mistakes that Wojo made as a coach. We also see the deficiencies of the players. We can arguments about which group was more at fault, but as soon as you try to lay the blame entirely on one person's shoulders, your argument loses all credibility. You're trying to make the 8 scholarship squad of 14-15 out to be worldbeaters for Chirissakes. If that doesn't show a biased lens, I don't know what does.
Your not willing to lay any blame for our sorry state of affairs on Wojo for his coaching inexperience. You prefer to blame the players. The players work really hard and give it their all. It is the coaches that consistently let the players down in this case.
I want to see Marquette win and win now. I am tired of us being a doormat in the Big East. Wojo needs to get his act together and coach some winning basketball. He has done a good job recruiting , he owes it to the players he is recruiting to be a better game coach.
If we beat Vanderbilt I will gladly eat crow.
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If we beat Vanderbilt I will gladly eat crow.
So Wojo is terrible unless we win one non-conference game very early in the season?
I am not sure I get that...
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I think Mike Deane, or any other seasoned coach, would have been delighted to have the talent Wojo had in 2014-15 and gotten much more out of the team. I don't understand why people are not willing to put the blame squarely on Wojo and his inexperience. I think that is where the problem was. Not players. I am pro player and anti coach.
Actually, you inadvertently touched on the problem with that team. There weren't pro players on that team. Certainly not among the upperclassmen.
The best five players (Fischer, Carlino, Juan, Derrick, Duane) were blatantly obvious but I'm curious what more Wojo could have got from them. Each of those had what was at the time the best year of their careers. And what difference maker did he not adequately utilize?
Jajuan and Deonte had talent but were incredibly raw and neither was ready to contribute at this level, especially on the defensive end. Dawson was clearly in over his head. Sandy was a freshmen.
I'm sorry, but placing that first year on Wojo is the absolute pinnacle of Mount Stupid. Not only was it a bad team, it was a bad team with no depth. Even with no talent and no depth, that team still competed most of the year until running out of gas the second half of Big East play.
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Your not willing to lay any blame for our sorry state of affairs on Wojo for his coaching inexperience. You prefer to blame the players.
It's not blaming the players. It's acknowledging that the players in 2014-15 were woefully undertalented and not remotely up to the task of competing at this level.
No one here blames the players. We just accept that they weren't very good and that 2014-15 was, by far, the worst collection of players Marquette has put on the court in this century.
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Your not willing to lay any blame for our sorry state of affairs on Wojo for his coaching inexperience. You prefer to blame the players. The players work really hard and give it their all. It is the coaches that consistently let the players down in this case.
I want to see Marquette win and win now. I am tired of us being a doormat in the Big East. Wojo needs to get his act together and coach some winning basketball. He has done a good job recruiting , he owes it to the players he is recruiting to be a better game coach.
If we beat Vanderbilt I will gladly eat crow.
If I had to blame anyone, I would blame the Buzz/Larry feud. I don't blame anyone currently in the program. I recognized early and was comfortable with a multiyear rebuild after Buzz left. If you go back and look at my preseason predictions, I have been spot on for Wojo's first two years. I don't expect a first time head coach to be the second coming of Al McGuire in his first few years. I also don't expect a bunch of holdovers from a 17-15 team that lost their best players and their coach to suddenly transform into a tournament team.
I don't set unrealistic expectations for a program that is in rebuild. What I do expect is improvement from the coach, every player, and the team as whole every year. I saw Wojo improve from year one to year two. I saw all of the players improve. I saw the program improve from 13 wins to 20 despite the 7th youngest roster in the nation. That's a helluva a feat for both the coaches and the players. And all signs point towards the team being even better this season. If this ends up true, I'm a happy camper.
You would have us believe that there is some great conflict between Wojo and the players. That sides must be taken. What you fail to realize is that Wojo and the players are on the same side. They have bought into his system and will be better for it. There were past players who didn't buy in and found their way to other universities. That happens in a coaching change and those players should leave if they can't buy in. I wish all of those players well.
I find it ironic that in the superbar you are railing against Helicopter parents. One of the most classic signs of a helicopter parent is supporting the student over the teacher no matter the circumstance. You have taken up the cause of the few players who are no longer in the program who didn't buy into Wojo's system and decided to transfer. You are the helicopter parent of MU transfers.
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The players work really hard and give it their all. It is the coaches that consistently let the players down in this case.
If only Wojo and his staff worked hard and gave it their all...buncha slackers
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I am going to change the direction of the argument. Two years ago is water over the dam. The real question is Wojo improving as a coach and I think has. I think he had to learn how to coach a team that is not full of McDonald's all-americans.
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Bilsu, I think he has improved. An analogy. The first two years, he has shown me that he is a good cook who can run a kitchen at a 4 star restaurant. He has not shown me that he is a gourmet chef who's name alone is enough to make a restaurant destination dining.
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I am going to change the direction of the argument. Two years ago is water over the dam. The real question is Wojo improving as a coach and I think has. I think he had to learn how to coach a team that is not full of McDonald's all-americans.
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Thought I'd add an update on this one. Probably should have after non-con play, but let's see where we stand:
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- Luke Fischer, 871 career points: Luke has scored 834 of those at Marquette. On his current 13.1 ppg pace, he would pass the 1,000 point mark at DePaul on February 4, and would pass 1,000 points as a Marquette player on February 17 at home against Xavier.
- Jajuan Johnson, 821 career points: At his current 13.8 ppg pace, JJ will pass the 1,000 career point mark on February 17 at home against Xavier.
- Duane Wilson, 838 career points: Duane is well off the pace as of right now due to his 5.7 ppg average. He will have to up his scoring average if he wants to hit 1,000 this year, as his best case scenario at his current pace would have him finishing the season with 998 points, and only then if we play 4 games in the Big East Tournament (losing in the finals), make the NCAAs in the play-in games, and make it to the NCAA Championship game.
- Haanif Cheatham, 552 career points: He was always a long-shot, and he'd need the same scenario as Duane above while averaging over 17.2 ppg (well above his current 12.4 ppg). Have to wait until next year for Haani.
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My expectation right now is that Luke and JJ will both hit 1,000 in February, giving the team 4 guys that are career 1,000 point scorers (Rowsey and Reinhardt). For Duane to realistically join them this year, he would have to average over 8 ppg the rest of the year and hope for a few extra games in March. Not impossible, but with current trends I expect he'll be hitting that milestone next season.
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Bilsu, I think he has improved. An analogy. The first two years, he has shown me that he is a good cook who can run a kitchen at a 4 star restaurant. He has not shown me that he is a gourmet chef who's name alone is enough to make a restaurant destination dining.
Love this analogy — didn't see the post earlier.
Since Wojo identifies as a blue-collar guy, he might prefer something along the lines of a journeyman carpenter (a working tradesman who's completed an apprenticeship) versus a master carpenter or craftsman.
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My guess is that Wilson has one or two games where he hits 20 points, especially if Howard or Johnson miss a game.
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Time for another update. Both Luke and JJ fell off the pace that would have had them passing 1,000 this past Saturday on National Marquette Day.
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- Luke Fischer, 1,005 career points: Congrats to Luke on surpassing the 1,000 career point mark against Georgetown. 37 of those points were scored at Indiana, which means he is 32 points away from reaching 1,000 in a Marquette uniform. On his current season pace, he will eclipse that mark on the road at Xavier, though it could also come on Senior Day.
- Jajuan Johnson, 936 career points: Including Saturday's DNP, JJ has slumped hard, averaging 6.7 ppg in Marquette's last 7 games, which is less than half his season average last time we checked in. On his current season pace of 11.8 ppg, he would pass 1,000 in either our second game at MSG or in our first postseason game if we make it that far. If he doesn't break out of his slump, he will likely come up short unless we make a couple deep runs at MSG and in a postseason tournament.
- Duane Wilson, 889 career points: Duane will almost certainly have to wait for next year. If he were to double his current season average of 5.2 ppg, he would still need 11 games to surpass 1,000 this year. While I'm sure every Marquette fan would sign up for Duane leading a run to the Big East Final and a Sweet 16, he'll likely need his senior year to reach this mark.
- Haanif Cheatham, 660 career points: Quite simply, not going to happen, though if he keeps up his current pace, he should have a relatively easy path to 1,000 as a junior.
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JJ might get 1000
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Haanif Cheatham, 660 career points: Quite simply, not going to happen, though if he keeps up his current pace, he should have a relatively easy path to 1,000 as a junior.
Depends on whether he will keep his starting job next year..
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Haanif Cheatham, 660 career points: Quite simply, not going to happen, though if he keeps up his current pace, he should have a relatively easy path to 1,000 as a junior.
Depends on whether he will keep his starting job next year..
Not necessarily. Even if he is sixth man next year he still has a decent head start over what Luke and Johnson had their freshmen years.
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Haanif Cheatham, 660 career points: Quite simply, not going to happen, though if he keeps up his current pace, he should have a relatively easy path to 1,000 as a junior.
Depends on whether he will keep his starting job next year..
His current pace of 10 ppg would put him at 720 assuming 6 more games. That would mean he would have to average 8.5 ppg next year.
This year, the addition of guards and wings like Rowsey, Reinhardt, and Howard chipped into DuWil's minutes. Who will chip into Haanif's, especially as JJ and Reinhardt graduate? Jamal Cain is the only contender, and that still leaves HC playing more, not less.
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His current pace of 10 ppg would put him at 720 assuming 6 more games. That would mean he would have to average 8.5 ppg next year.
This year, the addition of guards and wings like Rowsey, Reinhardt, and Howard chipped into DuWil's minutes. Who will chip into Haanif's, especially as JJ and Reinhardt graduate? Jamal Cain is the only contender, and that still leaves HC playing more, not less.
I see two ways his minutes get limited. One would be if Cain is actually very good. The most likely is that Hauser moves to small forward from power forward.
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Post Xavier II update. Fischer and JJ are the only candidates left to reach 1,000 points in a Marquette uniform this season.
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- Luke Fischer, 986 Marquette points: Luke will have a shot against Creighton, but on his season pace will get to 1,000 in a Marquette uniform in the Big East Tournament, though with his recent slump he may need a NCAA/NIT game.
- Jajuan Johnson, 971 career points: JJ is on pace to reach 1,000 in three games. That would either be the Big East Tournament or in the NCAA/NIT. It would take a huge senior day effort (and career high in points) to get there before the postseason.
- Duane Wilson, 895 career points. It would take a massive shift in his role and a deep tournament run. Duane isn't hitting 1,000 this year, which is a bit shocking considering where he started the season.
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Interesting info
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- Duane Wilson, 895 career points. It would take a massive shift in his role and a deep tournament run. Duane isn't hitting 1,000 this year, which is a bit shocking considering where he started the season.
Why not? If he averages 10 ppg over the next ten (Creighton, 3 in NYC, 6 in NCAA) that would just about do it. I smell a Swaggy Du buzzer beater to win the Big Dance AND go over 1000 points coming!
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Well he was 0-3 on layups yesterday
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Why not? If he averages 10 ppg over the next ten (Creighton, 3 in NYC, 6 in NCAA) that would just about do it. I smell a Swaggy Du buzzer beater to win the Big Dance AND go over 1000 points coming!
I'd happily take it, but he's scored double digits just 5 times this year, and only twice since the beginning of conference play. But hey, who wouldn't take a run to the NCAA title game?
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At halftime on Senior Night, both Jajuan and Luke are on pace to reach 1,000 career points today.
- Luke Fischer, 993 Marquette points: Luke had 7 points early today and is now just 7 away from 1,000 points in a Marquette uniform.
- Jajuan Johnson, 989 career points: JJ with a monster first half, draining 4 threes on his way to 18 points. What looked like something that would have to wait until the postseason is now within reach today.
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Luke now sitting at 999 with Marquette. JJJ at 991 both should get there soon.
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Luke is 1 point and 5 rebounds away from becoming the third member of the 1000 point, 500 rebound, 100 block club.
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I thought I'd revive this with new candidates to get to 1,000 career points at Marquette in the 2017-18 season. We have only two real candidates to get there. Sam Hauser would have to average 22.6 ppg with Marquette making it to both the Big East Tournament final and the Sweet 16 to have a shot. I don't see any way he increases his average by 9 points the rest of the way, so we're left with our backcourt:
- Markus Howard, 635 points: Howard has 635 career points through 10 games of his sophomore year. With his current 22.5 ppg scoring average, he is on pace to eclipse 1,000 points on February 17 at Creighton. While he may see his scoring average tail off a bit in conference play, it seems likely that Marquette will play at least 32 games this season (1 BET, 1 postseason) since currently a 16-15 record would land a RPI around 75 and SOS of 27, which is likely good enough for the NIT, and MU has a good shot to eclipse that record. That means Howard only has to average 16.6 ppg the rest of the way to assure himself 1,000 points as a sophomore. Has any MU player ever done that before? I'm sure Brute Force did it in two years, but not sure about the true sophomore aspect.
- Andrew Rowsey, 589 points: Rowsey has 589 points at Marquette and is averaging 21.8 ppg this year. At that rate, he would eclipse 1,000 points in the penultimate game at Georgetown. Not impossible to think he could do it on his senior night as well. If we assume 32 games this season, Rowsey has to average 18.7 ppg the rest of the way to reach 1,000. It's a harder road for him, but not impossible, and would make him a 1,000 point scorer at two different schools (he had 1,244 at UNC-Asheville).
My guess at this point, Howard will get there, Rowsey will depend on how far we go in March tournaments. I expect both of their scoring averages to drop come conference play, but it could be an interesting February and March for stat watchers.
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I thought I'd revive this with new candidates to get to 1,000 career points at Marquette in the 2017-18 season. We have only two real candidates to get there. Sam Hauser would have to average 22.6 ppg with Marquette making it to both the Big East Tournament final and the Sweet 16 to have a shot. I don't see any way he increases his average by 9 points the rest of the way, so we're left with our backcourt:
- Markus Howard, 635 points: Howard has 635 career points through 10 games of his sophomore year. With his current 22.5 ppg scoring average, he is on pace to eclipse 1,000 points on February 17 at Creighton. While he may see his scoring average tail off a bit in conference play, it seems likely that Marquette will play at least 32 games this season (1 BET, 1 postseason) since currently a 16-15 record would land a RPI around 75 and SOS of 27, which is likely good enough for the NIT, and MU has a good shot to eclipse that record. That means Howard only has to average 16.6 ppg the rest of the way to assure himself 1,000 points as a sophomore. Has any MU player ever done that before? I'm sure Brute Force did it in two years, but not sure about the true sophomore aspect.
- Andrew Rowsey, 589 points: Rowsey has 589 points at Marquette and is averaging 21.8 ppg this year. At that rate, he would eclipse 1,000 points in the penultimate game at Georgetown. Not impossible to think he could do it on his senior night as well. If we assume 32 games this season, Rowsey has to average 18.7 ppg the rest of the way to reach 1,000. It's a harder road for him, but not impossible, and would make him a 1,000 point scorer at two different schools (he had 1,244 at UNC-Asheville).
My guess at this point, Howard will get there, Rowsey will depend on how far we go in March tournaments. I expect both of their scoring averages to drop come conference play, but it could be an interesting February and March for stat watchers.
Nice bump.
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Rowsey could have had the all time record if he started here. ha. If Howard stays all 4, he'll break Mcneal's.
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Just out of curiosity what did last years seniors finish with?
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Just out of curiosity what did last years seniors finish with?
- Luke Fischer finished with 1,014 Marquette points & 1,051 total points.
- Jajuan Johnson finished with 1,013 points.
- Duane Wilson finished with 908 points. He passed 1,000 career points in his most recent game at Texas A&M and now is at 1,003 points.
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Just out of curiosity what did last years seniors finish with?
Katin - 1444 career points, 313 points at Marquette
Luke - 1051 career points, 1014 points at Marquette
JJJ - 1013 career points
JJJ got past 1000 in his very last game. Luke got there in the BET loss.
EDIT: Damn, Brew was quicker on the draw
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Rowsey could have had the all time record if he started here. ha. If Howard stays all 4, he'll break Mcneal's.
Assuming 32 games per season (hoping for more), Markus needs to put up 15.7 per game to catch McNeal. If we play deeper into the postseason, he could zoom past Jerel, especially if his average is closer to 20 or more. Dude could put the record away by a mile.
If you add Rowsey’s numbers from Asheville and Marquette, he is at 1833, which would only trail Jerel and Lazar in MU history. If he reaches 1000 points at Marquette, his career total would eclipse Jerel’s by about 250.
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Not trying to diminish Markus' accomplishments thus far, but George Thompson averaged 591 points per season. If he scored his average over 4 years instead of three his all time record would be 2364 and that is without a 3pt basket or the 30 second shot clock. I don't believe he played in more than 30 games in a season in any of his 3 years.
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Not trying to diminish Markus' accomplishments thus far, but George Thompson averaged 591 points per season. If he scored his average over 4 years instead of three his all time record would be 2364 and that is without a 3pt basket or the 30 second shot clock. I don't believe he played in more than 30 games in a season in any of his 3 years.
Generally when a person starts a sentence with “not trying to...” that’s exactly what they’re doing.
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Generally when a person starts a sentence with “not trying to...” that’s exactly what they’re doing.
Kinda like "with all due respect..."
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“No offense..........”
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“I don’t mean this in a bad way,” hey?
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“Having said that...”
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"I'm not racist, but..."
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Oops, sorry about that...
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Not trying to diminish Markus' accomplishments thus far, but George Thompson averaged 591 points per season. If he scored his average over 4 years instead of three his all time record would be 2364 and that is without a 3pt basket or the 30 second shot clock. I don't believe he played in more than 30 games in a season in any of his 3 years.
It's easier to just look at scoring average among the 1000 point list.
Thompson - 20.4
Wade - 19.7
Meminger - 18.8
Kojis - 18.6
Wolf - 18.3
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Honestly,...
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Not trying to be a dick but,...
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NM
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The first scoring threshold to be reached this season is 2,000 career points by Rowsey. Currently he is at 1,833. I assuming 9 games, which will be against DePaul at home. Might be more likely that he achieves it in 10 with a game at Xavier. The game after that would be at home against Villanova.
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The first scoring threshold to be reached this season is 2,000 career points by Rowsey. Currently he is at 1,833. I assuming 9 games, which will be against DePaul at home. Might be more likely that he achieves it in 10 with a game at Xavier. The game after that would be at home against Villanova.
Curious, how does that work with transfers. Would it count as MU's first 2000 pt scorer?
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Curious, how does that work with transfers. Would it count as MU's first 2000 pt scorer?
I don't think so. It's a great accomplishment, but not like he gets credit for posting Jerel and Lazar when he scored more than half his points somewhere else.
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Thought the 9-day break would be a good time to bump this. Here's the current update:
- Markus Howard, 819 points Howard has ran hot and cold since the last update, scoring 25+ ppg three times and <15 six times, with nothing in between. Still, he averaged 20.4 in that 9-game span and is 181 away from 1,000. His season average pace would have him pass the 1,000 point mark at DePaul on February 24.
- Andrew Rowsey, 766 points Rowsey cracked the 2,000 point mark for his career last night when you include his UNC-Asheville scoring. He's the first player in a Marquette uniform to reach that plateau. Similar to Howard, he's been mercurial the past 9 games, going for 30+ ppg three times and <20 six times. He needs 234 to reach 1,000 in a Marquette uniform and is on pace to do that in our first Big East Tournament game at Madison Square Garden. Rowsey has minimally increased his scoring average in conference play (21 ppg vs 20.8 ppg for the season) so if the keeps it up, we'll have something to celebrate in NYC.
Also, kudos to bilsu, who correctly predicted Rowsey passing the 2,000 point mark against DePaul. He was so close to having it at Butler; his career total was 1,999 after that game.
Finally, I noticed that Sam Hauser last night eclipsed his single season point total from a year ago. He now has 287 on the season after a 281 point freshman campaign. Another Sam note, his 3PFG% is now at 49.6% for the season. He's 23rd in the country and a ways off the national lead (SMU's Ben Emelogu is at 58.9%) but what stands out for Sam is that of all the players in the top-25, he has by far the most attempts at 121. No other top-25 sniper is within 30 attempts of him, and looking up the standings, he has more attempts than the next three players ahead of him combined. It will be interesting to see if those other shooters can sustain their percentages as the season goes on. If Sam can get slightly ahead of his current numbers (he is at 50% in conference play) and the shooters ahead of him come back down as their attempts mount up, we could be looking at a second MU player making a run at the national 3PFG% crown in 2 years.
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It's easier to just look at scoring average among the 1000 point list.
Thompson - 20.4
Wade - 19.7
Meminger - 18.8
Kojis - 18.6
Wolf - 18.3
Mike Moran also at 18.6
Chones finished up at 19.0 in his 50 games. Ending with a total of 952 points.
For comparison, last night was Sam's 51st game. Hard to grasp he has more games in a MU uniform than Jimmy did.
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Besides Sam passing last years point total against DePaul, Andrew passed his junior season total on Friday vs. Butler. Markus has 409 this season, which is one point shy of last season.
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We have another week break, so it seemed like a good time for a bump:
- Markus Howard, 957 points: Howard is just 43 points shy of reaching 1,000 points for his career. I believe he would be the first Marquette player to reach that as a sophomore. His 21.9 ppg average would put him on pace to get there against St. John's at home on Feb. 21, though with his streakiness it wouldn't surprise me if he did it at Creighton next Saturday or if it took him until the first week of March.
- Andrew Rowsey, 857 points: Rowsey is exactly 100 points behind Howard and his current 19.4 ppg average would have him needing 8 games. He's guaranteed 6 more, so that means either a couple wins at MSG or some form of postseason play, either the NCAA or NIT.
- Sam Hauser, 637 points: Sam will NOT get close this year, but I thought I'd add him in for perspective. He is level with Wesley Matthews for points scored as a sophomore. He might be hard pressed to reach Jerel's 769 as a sophomore (would take 10 games based on his 14.2 ppg average) but he will have a good chance to make the top-10 all time in Marquette scoring. I expect he'll need at least 1674 career points to get there, as Howard seems like a lock to get into the top-10 and could do so as soon as next year.
I did some research on the sophomore to 1,000 list. Dominic James got close (979), but didn't quite make it. George Thompson, Dwyane Wade, and Darius Johnson-Odom all got there in two years but were juniors when they eclipsed 1,000.
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We have another week break, so it seemed like a good time for a bump:
- Markus Howard, 957 points: Howard is just 43 points shy of reaching 1,000 points for his career. I believe he would be the first Marquette player to reach that as a sophomore. His 21.9 ppg average would put him on pace to get there against St. John's at home on Feb. 21, though with his streakiness it wouldn't surprise me if he did it at Creighton next Saturday or if it took him until the first week of March.
- Andrew Rowsey, 857 points: Rowsey is exactly 100 points behind Howard and his current 19.4 ppg average would have him needing 8 games. He's guaranteed 6 more, so that means either a couple wins at MSG or some form of postseason play, either the NCAA or NIT.
- Sam Hauser, 637 points: Sam will NOT get close this year, but I thought I'd add him in for perspective. He is level with Wesley Matthews for points scored as a sophomore. He might be hard pressed to reach Jerel's 769 as a sophomore (would take 10 games based on his 14.2 ppg average) but he will have a good chance to make the top-10 all time in Marquette scoring. I expect he'll need at least 1674 career points to get there, as Howard seems like a lock to get into the top-10 and could do so as soon as next year.
I did some research on the sophomore to 1,000 list. Dominic James got close (979), but didn't quite make it. George Thompson, Dwyane Wade, and Darius Johnson-Odom all got there in two years but were juniors when they eclipsed 1,000.
Thanks for the update. I like that you noted Markus' streakiness - certainly true - but I looked up Andrew and Sam's game by game stats, and they run really hot and cold too.
Markus - low of 7; high of 53
Andrew - low of 0; high of 35
Sam - low of 2; high of 30
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We have another week break, so it seemed like a good time for a bump:
- Markus Howard, 957 points: Howard is just 43 points shy of reaching 1,000 points for his career. I believe he would be the first Marquette player to reach that as a sophomore. His 21.9 ppg average would put him on pace to get there against St. John's at home on Feb. 21, though with his streakiness it wouldn't surprise me if he did it at Creighton next Saturday or if it took him until the first week of March.
- Andrew Rowsey, 857 points: Rowsey is exactly 100 points behind Howard and his current 19.4 ppg average would have him needing 8 games. He's guaranteed 6 more, so that means either a couple wins at MSG or some form of postseason play, either the NCAA or NIT.
- Sam Hauser, 637 points: Sam will NOT get close this year, but I thought I'd add him in for perspective. He is level with Wesley Matthews for points scored as a sophomore. He might be hard pressed to reach Jerel's 769 as a sophomore (would take 10 games based on his 14.2 ppg average) but he will have a good chance to make the top-10 all time in Marquette scoring. I expect he'll need at least 1674 career points to get there, as Howard seems like a lock to get into the top-10 and could do so as soon as next year.
I did some research on the sophomore to 1,000 list. Dominic James got close (979), but didn't quite make it. George Thompson, Dwyane Wade, and Darius Johnson-Odom all got there in two years but were juniors when they eclipsed 1,000.
Howard needs 24 points to tie Wade for the highest scoring sophomore season. I always wondered how they would of treated Wade's numbers if he stayed five years. He was a partial qualifier, which at that time meant he had to sit out his first year, but if he got his degree in four years the NCAA would of allowed him to play another year. In that case would his sophomore numbers been reclassed as freshmen numbers?
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Curious, how does that work with transfers. Would it count as MU's first 2000 pt scorer?
Nope, he doesn’t get MU credit for what he did at a low major school. He wouldn’t have seen the court more that 5 minutes a game as a freshman at MU.
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Nope, he doesn’t get MU credit for what he did at a low major school. He wouldn’t have seen the court more that 5 minutes a game as a freshman at MU.
I don't know....the MU backcourt his freshman season was Derrick Wilson and Jake Thomas
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Post-Georgetown update. Looks like Markus Howard will close the BC with a likely landmark scoring number, while Andrew Rowsey will need postseason play to get to 1,000 in a Marquette uniform.
- Markus Howard, 991 points: Howard enters the season finale just 9 points short of the 1,000 point mark. He will likely pass the mark in the final game at the BC, as he's hit double-figures in every game he's played this year except two, and one was the Creighton game where he left with an injury before halftime.
- Andrew Rowsey, 941 points: Rowsey is averaging 19.4 this year. At that average, he would score 58 in his next three games, meaning it will probably take 3-4 games to crack 1,000 as a Marquette player. That means he will likely need at least one more game than Senior Day and the first BET game. If Marquette wins their first BET game and/or makes it to a postseason tournament, Rowsey should have a decent shot at 1,000. If they go one and done at MSG and get shut out of the postseason, he'll likely come up a little short.
- Sam Hauser, 715 points: Sam is now 54 points behind Marquette's all-time leading scorer, Jerel McNeal, for points scored as a sophomore. His 14.5 ppg average would have him moving ahead of Jerel after 4 more games, so like Rowsey, he'll need either MSG or postseason success. I didn't expect him to get there this year, so it's impressive that he has a shot at it. Averaging 19.5 ppg the last 4 games has helped move him up the ladder.
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Nope, he doesn’t get MU credit for what he did at a low major school. He wouldn’t have seen the court more that 5 minutes a game as a freshman at MU.
Rofl? He would have been the best point guard there by a long shot. His competition would have been Wilson and Thomas.
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Regular season finale update. Markus Howard passed 1,000 to close the BC with Rowsey looking likely to pass the mark in the postseason.
- Markus Howard, 1,016 points: Howard is the first sophomore to reach 1,000 and is 6th in scoring for players in their first two years at Marquette. Next on the list are Dean Meminger (1,021), Darius Johnson-Odom (1,026), and Jae Crowder (1,049).
- Andrew Rowsey, 967 points: Rowsey is averaging 19.9 which means he would likely pass 1,000 with two more games. After his From The Al performance on Senior Night, it seems like a good chance he will hit 1,000 at Madison Square Garden.
- Sam Hauser, 733 points: Hauser is 38 points behind Jerel McNeal's sophomore pace and would be expected to pass that mark with three more games. Impressive as that is, it really puts into perspective what a prodigious scorer Howard has been.
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Aren’t you supposed to be having a baby right now?
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Aren’t you supposed to be having a baby right now?
It's a long ass process. Because my wife is over 35, the doctor wanted to induce. That means coming in at 7:00 pm for the first medication and staying overnight. We've been here almost 12 hours and haven't even seen the doctor yet. There's a second drug given to start the contractions, but we aren't even there yet. At some point I'll be going dark, but there's only so much "Happiest Baby on the Block" one can read.
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All three of them ur kids were fast. No time for any pain killers.
Looked pretty easy to me.
#ducksandrunsforcover
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Common knowledge that humpin' moves the process along. Sew tell da nurses knot ta bother y'all and get ta work, hey?
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It's a long ass process. Because my wife is over 35, the doctor wanted to induce. That means coming in at 7:00 pm for the first medication and staying overnight. We've been here almost 12 hours and haven't even seen the doctor yet. There's a second drug given to start the contractions, but we aren't even there yet. At some point I'll be going dark, but there's only so much "Happiest Baby on the Block" one can read.
Could be worse. Chick Family babies are known for coming right out once they've decided to come into the world. My two youngest siblings were almost born in the car on the way to the hospital. Mine didn't dilly dally much, but glow jr. immediately regretted the decision and cried nonstop for 2 hours.
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Bump.
Thru DePaul 3/7, Andrew Rowsey has scored 992 points at Marquette, making him 8 points away from joining Marquette's 1000 point club.
In addition, Rowsey would join the even more selective 1000-points-at-two-different-schools club. The current members are: Jon Manning (Oklahoma City, North Texas, 1974-1979), Kenny Battle (NIU, Illinois, 1984-1989), Gary Neal (LaSalle, Towson, 2002-2007), and Juan'ya Green (Niagara, Hofstra, 2011-2016). Notice that Rowsey will join Battle as the only players to do it at a high major school.
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Got it! Congrats, Rowdy!