Big Loss for Villanova

[GGGG]

Due to an inane eligibility ruling around when he was freshman, 5 star center Omari Spellman is a "academic redshirt" for the upcoming year.

[Jay Bee]

The new rules (eff this year) are simple and were announced years ago. His fault.

[Nukem2]

The new rules (eff this year) are simple and were announced years ago. His fault.

What are the "new" rules?

[GGGG]

The new rules (eff this year) are simple and were announced years ago. His fault.

NCAA should have nothing to do with eligibility.

[Jay Bee]

What are the "new" rules?

Among others, there is a 10/7 progression rule. 10 of your "core classes" (16 total) must be completed before you start your 7th semester of HS

[Herman Cain]

Obviously not helpful for Villanova this year.

The good news for Villanova is Eric Paschall, who was the Atlantic -10 rookie of the year for Fordham (15.9 ppg and 5.5 rpg) will now be eligible after sitting out a year.  I think Paschall will have a very big impact and easily soak up the minutes .

Spellman will be able to work on academics and further develop his game while sitting out. So in the long run it may ultimately be a good thing for both Spellman and Villanova.

[wadesworld]

Is this kid a potential 1 and done?  Will he ever play for Nova?

[forgetful]

NCAA should have nothing to do with eligibility.

I could not possibly disagree more.  The Universities themselves have shown no willingness to police themselves and minus eligibility concerns, there is zero penalty for a university cheating and enrolling anyone, and ensuring that grades are maintained.

[jsglow]

NCAA should have nothing to do with eligibility.

Disagree vehemently.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Nova is still beastly but they are going to be very small.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Is this kid a potential 1 and done?  Will he ever play for Nova?

I would guess that he plays for Nova next season but him declaring is not outside the realm of possibility

[🏀]

I could not possibly disagree more.  The Universities themselves have shown no willingness to police themselves and minus eligibility concerns, there is zero penalty for a university cheating and enrolling anyone, and ensuring that grades are maintained.

The NCAA hasn't done much better either.

[Galway Eagle]

The NCAA hasn't done much better either.

But they have done better

[forgetful]

The NCAA hasn't done much better either.

Agreed, but as Bagpipes says, they have done better and do better than nothing at all.

[mu03eng]

Guys this is the NCAA reaching down into high school to rule ineligibility. He should know the rules so no sympathy but that doesn't mean the NCAA can't be pathetic at the same time

[muwarrior69]

Among others, there is a 10/7 progression rule. 10 of your "core classes" (16 total) must be completed before you start your 7th semester of HS

Define core courses; and when did high schools go on the semester system?

[#UnleashSean]

Define core courses; and when did high schools go on the semester system?

Ummm, since at least the 90's?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Define core courses; and when did high schools go on the semester system?

When were they not?

[Jay Bee]

Define core courses; and when did high schools go on the semester system?

Core courses are defined by the NCAA. See http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/future/core-courses for details

Many high schools have been on semester systems for decades; the NCAA refers to "the Xth semester (or equivalent)"

[muwarrior69]

Core courses are defined by the NCAA. See http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/future/core-courses for details

Many high schools have been on semester systems for decades; the NCAA refers to "the Xth semester (or equivalent)"

Look, I,m an old fart, graduated HS in '65. We were not on a semester system as our grading periods were every 30 class days ending with final exams in June. I guess if you decided to take French, German, Russian, or any other foreign language other than Spanish it would not count as a core course for the NCAA. Why limit it to just Spanish, how bizarre?

[forgetful]

Guys this is the NCAA reaching down into high school to rule ineligibility. He should know the rules so no sympathy but that doesn't mean the NCAA can't be pathetic at the same time

Funny thing is that I think the NCAA should regulate eligibility, but I think they got it wrong here. 

The problem stems from him starting public high school before transferring to a private high school.  The private high school after assessing him, decided he should move back down to 8th grade (he spend 2 months in 9th grade in high-school), for academic reasons.

The NCAA counts those 2 months as the start of his HS, so he lost an entire year of time to complete the course requirements.  When he started 9th grade a year later, he only had 4 semesters left to complete the 10 core courses necessary by the 7th semester.  That is essentially not possible in most schools.

He got screwed because the private school thought it was in his best academic long term interest to repeat 8th grade, likely because the public school system did not adequately prepare him for a normal high school.

[Newsdreams]

Look, I,m an old fart, graduated HS in '65. We were not on a semester system as our grading periods were every 30 class days ending with final exams in June. I guess if you decided to take French, German, Russian, or any other foreign language other than Spanish it would not count as a core course for the NCAA. Why limit it to just Spanish, how bizarre?

Not only Spanish that is basically an example, read above it says foreign language.

[GGGG]

The schools should police themselves. If they want to admit morons who can't read, that's their deal. Get out of eligibility because you create too many dumb decisions like these.

[forgetful]

The schools should police themselves. If they want to admit morons who can't read, that's their deal. Get out of eligibility because you create too many dumb decisions like these.

Yeah, why should the kids even worry about high school.  Screw going to classes in high-school. 

They should just focus 100% on basketball to prepare themselves for college.  I mean, really, why go to class ever, focus on B-ball, go to college to get exposure and then go to the pros, or take your token degree and try to find a job.

[GGGG]

Yeah, why should the kids even worry about high school.  Screw going to classes in high-school. 

They should just focus 100% on basketball to prepare themselves for college.  I mean, really, why go to class ever, focus on B-ball, go to college to get exposure and then go to the pros, or take your token degree and try to find a job.

You have a very paternalistic attitude. I'm glad you think the NCAA is protecting the students here.