Worse than a MU/Loyola Billboard...

[tower912]

At age 20, I would have laughed.    20 year old guys are pretty much knuckleheads.    As a 50 year old with a 21 year old daughter..... yeah, 20 year old guys are pretty much knuckleheads.    Which is what I told my daughter constantly before I sent her off to school.   

[4everwarriors]

Because the sign is intended to be read as if it is talking to one individual parent? I get that you are trying to be funny but unless I'm missing something the sign is grammatically correct.

True dat. "Game" is da direct object of da possesive form of "son," ai na?

[Herman Cain]

Yer an idiot.

Keep projecting.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with what these kids did. This is an excellent Double Entendre. I think the Chancellor should never have gotten involved. People need to lighten up.

Would you be alright with a guy approaching your daughter and offering her a cream pie in exchange for her student id?

I think the school did about all they could in that situation. They acknowledged it, recognized it as free speech, used their free speech to distance themselves from it, and allowed other students to use their free speech to show that the campus doesn't stand for that kind of behavior.

[warriorchick]

Why did they put in the apostrophe in "son's"?

Probably cuz they dumb GIRLS

Because it's a possessive. 


I suppose one could argue that they could have used "sons'".

[Jay Bee]

They may be pastry chefs making a kind gesture. What else would cream pie mean, you sickos??

[Benny B]

Ok follow-up....

1) It's not a double entendre, because I'm sure they weren't really giving cream pies (pastry) out to freshmen.  Hell, the only people who know what a cream pie (pastry) is, evidently, live in three counties in Indiana.

2) There's got to be more context somewhere, otherwise, to qualify what some sorority girls are doing in Morgantown as a satirical response to what happened at UW-L is quite the stretch.  Besides, Morgantown just learned yesterday that the Cubs won the World Series... and it has nothing to do with clairvoyance.

[Herman Cain]

Ok follow-up....

1) It's not a double entendre, because I'm sure they weren't really giving cream pies (pastry) out to freshmen.  Hell, the only people who know what a cream pie (pastry) is, evidently, live in three counties in Indiana.

2) There's got to be more context somewhere, otherwise, to qualify what some sorority girls are doing in Morgantown as a satirical response to what happened at UW-L is quite the stretch.  Besides, Morgantown just learned yesterday that the Cubs won the World Series... and it has nothing to do with clairvoyance.

dou·ble en·ten·dre
ˌdo͞obl änˈtändrə,ˌdəbl änˈtändrə/
noun
a word or phrase open to two interpretations, one of which is usually risqué or indecent

[Benny B]

dou·ble en·ten·dre
ˌdo͞obl änˈtändrə,ˌdəbl änˈtändrə/
noun
a word or phrase open to two interpretations, one of which is usually risqué or indecent

I thought I made it clear, but I will reiterate.... Outside of three counties in Indiana, there's only one interpretation of cream pie.

[Herman Cain]

Would you be alright with a guy approaching your daughter and offering her a cream pie in exchange for her student id?

I think the school did about all they could in that situation. They acknowledged it, recognized it as free speech, used their free speech to distance themselves from it, and allowed other students to use their free speech to show that the campus doesn't stand for that kind of behavior.

The Females in my family laugh this thing kind of thing off and give it very little attention.

Obviously the sign is a sophomoric thing , but I think it would be best left to fizzle out on its own. I have plenty of background in academics and have had to deal with actual abuse.  I believe people and administrators take this fluffy  stuff way to seriously and thus debase actual cases of harassment.

[Herman Cain]

I thought I made it clear, but I will reiterate.... Outside of three counties in Indiana, there's only one interpretation of cream pie.

Which three counties?

[Coleman]

My frosh year, I lived at OD, came back for second semester, and was walking from 2SE through 2NW corridor to get my mail. A sign was up that said "Welcome Back Guys!". A day later, someone added an "L", and it then said "Welcome Black Guys". I found it pretty funny (I don't know if that's wrong or not, feel free to judge).

Definitely funny, and something I, and most of my floormates, would have done in McCormick. And someone would then have no doubt snuck the sign onto a girls floor. Harmless sign.

As to the original sign, I have more of a problem with it. It's just crude, and not that funny. What passes for humor these days...

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The Females in my family laugh this thing kind of thing off and give it very little attention.

Obviously the sign is a sophomoric thing , but I think it would be best left to fizzle out on its own. I have plenty of background in academics and have had to deal with actual abuse.  I believe people and administrators take this fluffy  stuff way to seriously and thus debase actual cases of harassment.

That's wonderful. I hope that's true. I would be careful to assume that they are actually ok with it and not just laughing it off because they know that others wouldn't approve of their disapproval (an example of rape culture, btw). Also, you didn't answer the question. I asked if you would be comfortable with a man approaching your daughter and offering her a cream pie in exchange for her freshmen ID.

What did the university do that you disapprove of? They took no action. All they did was make a statement that they didn't approve of the message. Would you prefer that they pretend that they hadn't heard about it? Just ignore  the fact that it got plastered all over social media, that there were protests, and they were getting angry calls from students and parents? Or are you saying that they should have supported the male students?

As for your last point. I could not disagree with you more. First of all, it is "actual harassment." Second of all, by failing to address the smaller incidents, it sends the message that the university is willing to tolerate acts of harassment. This creates a culture where survivors of harassment and other forms of sexual violence don't feel comfortable to come forward because if the university won't even address the small acts of harassment, how can they be trusted to take on the larger acts? In addition, it emboldens potential predators because when the jokes they make and the demeaning language they use go unchallenged, then they feel like they have the support of the community and can escalate to more aggressive forms of sexual violence. Finally, it reinforces a culture that dictates that is normal and expected for men to be aggressive sexual beings and for women to be nothing more than sexual objects for men's enjoyment. It actually has the potential to make men who would never think of committing an act of sexual violence to commit one almost "unintentionally" because they have been brought up in a culture that teaches that it is ok to coerce, pressure, and bully women into consenting to sex as long as they are still conscious and you don't use a weapon because "no" really means "ask me again in 30 seconds" right?

I know it seems like I just jumped the shark a bit. To be clear, I'm not saying this incident is going to magically turn UW-Lacrosse into a dangerous place. As you said, it is one sophomoric incident. It is one of millions that occur on college campuses across the nation every day. Its the culmination of these millions of sophomoric events that creates this culture that leads to instances of sexual violence. Universities cannot be expected to nor should they respond to every incident that happens. A vast majority should be left to fizzle out. However, when one receives the amount of attention that this one does, a university has the responsibility to make a statement.

You say you have plenty of background in academics. I am assuming and please correct me if I'm wrong, that you are no longer in academics. Because with the amount of scrutiny that the Office of Civil Rights within the Department of Education is putting on sexual violence on campus, you would know that UW-Lacrosse not addressing this would be like putting a target on their backs. More importantly, academia as a whole also now has more research and understanding of the effects these types of events can cause. Fortunately, a significant majority of universities are taking this topic a lot more seriously than they did before.

[#UnleashSean]

Saw the banner. I laughed, it was funny, not going to lie. That said the 2 kids who came up with the idea are known idiots, the rest were just there drinking and also found it funny. The girl who freaked and made it "viral" also is a known extreme feminist and "super pc" person. So this was taken to an extreme.

 I am glad that at least UW-L told the girl that the students could hang whatever banner they wanted outside of campus without getting into trouble. UW-L has been frequently getting more and more PC, but this was a resounding blow against PC and I'm glad to see it.

So quick conclusion heres an email they sent to the entire campus:

I hope you're as enthusiastic as I am about the beginning of our new academic year. I wish my first message to all of you could be a purely positive one; however, I am compelled to speak out against behavior that is contrary to what our University stands for. As you may have heard, over the weekend some of our students hung a highly offensive and sexist banner from the balcony of their off-campus apartment. I want all of you to know that UWL strongly condemns this kind of behavior—it is ignorant, it represents our university very poorly, and even if it was meant as a joke, the negative impact on the UWL community is very real.

I and my leadership team are committed to maintaining a campus climate that is safe, respectful, and welcoming for all people. I hope that you will all be a part of that effort, and that you’ll help promote a culture at UWL that we can all be proud of.

Sincerely,

Joe

The guys who hung the banner and those who pictured in it were sent an email asking for a meeting to "start a conversation" on rape culture, women's rights, and acceptable behavior. I think only one didn't reply with an image of a middle finger. None will receive any disciplinary action.

[Jay Bee]

TAMU Eagle sounds like he'd be a blast to party with, a'iiinnna?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I am glad that at least UW-L told the girl that the students could hang whatever banner they wanted outside of campus without getting into trouble. UW-L has been frequently getting more and more PC, but this was a resounding blow against PC and I'm glad to see it.

Yes, how dare people be offended by someone else's behavior. These awful people must be stopped!

You also realize that no public university ever would punish kids for this? It would be a massive violation of free speech. The university did all it could to condemn the act, so I don't know how its a victory against PC.

Out of curiosity, which side do you think the Jesuits would be on of this debate?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

TAMU Eagle sounds like he'd be a blast to party with, a'iiinnna?

I certainly think so.

I can crack a joke and take a joke with the best of them. But when someone tells me that they were offended or hurt by my actions, I am man enough to say "I'm sorry. I meant it is a joke. Didn't mean to make you feel that way" and move on. Rather than getting defensive and attacking the other person for expressing their feelings.

[mu03eng]

TAMU Eagle sounds like he'd be a blast to party with, a'iiinnna?

Delete your account

[mu03eng]

Kind of a funny thing to note (weird or ironic, not ha ha), if you boil down what everyone is saying I think we're 99% in agreement.

-The banner could be hung
-The idiots who hung the banner are just that, idiots
-People could be offended (the degree to which they may be defended is debatable)
-This is a sign of the apocalypse

Assuming the last one is true, I, for one, welcome our new canine overlords.

[Pakuni]

Sure that's the intent....do you think the broseph it's targeting is going to get it or is he going to take it literally...as in" these girls are down with my approach"? Are parents who don't get the connection going to get it?

I think satire would be wholly ineffective, not to mention unfunny, if it always had to be softened/dumbed down to ensure that even the doltiest of dolts understands it's satire.

[MerrittsMustache]

The guys who hung the banner and those who pictured in it were sent an email asking for a meeting to "start a conversation" on rape culture, women's rights, and acceptable behavior. I think only one didn't reply with an image of a middle finger. None will receive any disciplinary action.

Going through life as bro's who think that type of thing is funny will be punishment enough.

[GGGG]

Saw the banner. I laughed, it was funny, not going to lie. That said the 2 kids who came up with the idea are known idiots, the rest were just there drinking and also found it funny. The girl who freaked and made it "viral" also is a known extreme feminist and "super pc" person. So this was taken to an extreme.

 I am glad that at least UW-L told the girl that the students could hang whatever banner they wanted outside of campus without getting into trouble. UW-L has been frequently getting more and more PC, but this was a resounding blow against PC and I'm glad to see it.

This really wasn't a "resounding blow against PC."  You are giving them way too much credit.

[GGGG]

Going through life as bro's who think that type of thing is funny will be punishment enough.

Yeah, that level of maturity isn't going to take them real far in life.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Kind of a funny thing to note (weird or ironic, not ha ha), if you boil down what everyone is saying I think we're 99% in agreement.

-The banner could be hung
-The idiots who hung the banner are just that, idiots
-People could be offended (the degree to which they may be defended is debatable)
-This is a sign of the apocalypse

Assuming the last one is true, I, for one, welcome our new canine overlords.

Such is the case with most of these PC, social justice warrior type debates. We all agree its not a good a thing and probably shouldn't have happened but we disagree with the language used to describe it and the degree of "not a good thing" that it was.

[thePhoenix]

I thought I made it clear, but I will reiterate.... Outside of three counties in Indiana, there's only one interpretation of cream pie.

What about Boston?   






double entendre for sure