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forgetful

#275
Quote from: GooooMarquette on August 18, 2016, 06:56:24 PM
I'll add the some you keep conveniently forgetting to your list:

They vandalized a bathroom (mirrors, not just a soap dispenser), and lied to authorities and the press (and by extension, the world). 

Guess we now know why you chose 'forgetful.' :D

I've seen about 10 different reports about what was "supposedly vandalized,"  all stories reportedly from the same petrol owner.  Not forgetting anything, just waiting to see something consistent and proof, not just the gas station owner saying it happened and changing his story about a dozen times.

Regardless.  Lochte is a dumb as a stump at at least owes an apology.

In more important olympic news.

Ashton Eaton...damn, forget JFB, I'm definitely choosing him as my one athlete.

And

Dalilah Muhammad, dominating performance in the rain.  Impressive athletes.

forgetful

Quote from: GooooMarquette on August 18, 2016, 06:56:24 PM

Guess we now know why you chose 'forgetful.' :D

Funny reason for my handle.  When I first joined this site, I was a very occasional visitor and had forgot my handle and password about 6 times.

In setting up account number whatever, my wife said it would be easier if you weren't so forgetful...and there it was.  Haven't forgotten it since.

wadesworld


GooooMarquette

Quote from: wadesworld on August 18, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
Usaine is insane.

The guy has another gear.

Loved watching the semifinal interaction between Bolt and DeGrasse yesterday.

forgetful

Quote from: wadesworld on August 18, 2016, 08:43:54 PM
Usaine is insane.

I've heard he may not actually be 100% human, but have some robotic modifications to improve speed and strength.

MU82

Lochte & Co. are dopes and liars.

Can we quit trying to paint them as something different?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Benny B

Quote from: MU82 on August 19, 2016, 08:51:33 AM
Lochte & Co. are dopes and liars.

Can we quit trying to paint them as something different?

Looks are everything.  Ever heard David Beckham speak?  It's like he mouth-sexed a can of helium.  You think Ryan Reynolds got this far on his superior acting method?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Brazil fans chanting Italia, like their Italian...Did anyone else hear about the Feench guy that was booed at the track when he got his silver medal the other day?

forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on August 19, 2016, 08:51:33 AM
Lochte & Co. are dopes and liars.

Can we quit trying to paint them as something different?

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever get the full truth about what happened.  The Brazil police made it clear that if the swimmers didn't agree with their account, they would be prosecuted.

Feigen was forced to pay an additional $11k to leave the country.

Moral of the story to me, if you go to Brazil, you may be confronted at gunpoint at a gas station and forced to hand over your money by security.  If you call it a robbery, you'll be threatened with prosecution and be forced to hand over $11k to leave.

It's pretty clear that Lochte's original story was grossly exaggerated, but it remains that they were held at gunpoint and forced to hand over their money.

MU82

Quote from: forgetful on August 19, 2016, 02:39:05 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever get the full truth about what happened.  The Brazil police made it clear that if the swimmers didn't agree with their account, they would be prosecuted.

Feigen was forced to pay an additional $11k to leave the country.

Moral of the story to me, if you go to Brazil, you may be confronted at gunpoint at a gas station and forced to hand over your money by security.  If you call it a robbery, you'll be threatened with prosecution and be forced to hand over $11k to leave.

It's pretty clear that Lochte's original story was grossly exaggerated, but it remains that they were held at gunpoint and forced to hand over their money.

Not sure how you arrive at your conclusions, but OK. You do what you have to do to make yourself happy, including working very hard to find "evidence" to make Lochte seem like less of a dope and a liar.

You clearly support our heroic athletes and must be a more patriotic American than the rest of us!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

brewcity77

Lochte is a moron, a liar, and an idiot. And yes, I realize moron and idiot are synonyms, but I feel that he's stupid enough that it bears repeating how mind-numbingly imbicilic he is.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 19, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Lochte is a moron, a liar, and an idiot. And yes, I realize moron and idiot are synonyms, but I feel that he's stupid enough that it bears repeating how mind-numbingly imbicilic he is.

I agree with this analysis.

GooooMarquette

#287
Quote from: forgetful on August 19, 2016, 02:39:05 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever get the full truth about what happened.  The Brazil police made it clear that if the swimmers didn't agree with their account, they would be prosecuted.

Feigen was forced to pay an additional $11k to leave the country.

Moral of the story to me, if you go to Brazil, you may be confronted at gunpoint at a gas station and forced to hand over your money by security.  If you call it a robbery, you'll be threatened with prosecution and be forced to hand over $11k to leave.

It's pretty clear that Lochte's original story was grossly exaggerated, but it remains that they were held at gunpoint and forced to hand over their money.

If there was ANY truth to your theory about police coercion of the confession, all three swimmers would have held a press conference to tell the "true" story the microsecond they left Brazil because they wouldn't be subject to extradition. The fact that they haven't contradicts your excuse.

Face it - were held at gunpoint (for good reason) and forced to pay for their drunken vandalism, and then told a lie to make Brazilians look bad and themselves look good.  Your constant excuses about what drunk "kids" do don't hold water - Lochtke is a 32-year old and has been traveling to international meets for 15 years, not some 19-year old college kid away from home for the first time.  Even as historically stupid as he is, he should have known better.

Benny B

Quote from: forgetful on August 19, 2016, 02:39:05 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever get the full truth about what happened.  The Brazil police made it clear that if the swimmers didn't agree with their account, they would be prosecuted.


Ye of little faith.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gunnar-bentz-reveals-details-about-what-he-told-brazilian-police-about-night-with-ryan-lochte-001057258.html
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

forgetful

Quote from: Benny B on August 19, 2016, 07:56:18 PM
Ye of little faith.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gunnar-bentz-reveals-details-about-what-he-told-brazilian-police-about-night-with-ryan-lochte-001057258.html

So, no vandalizing doors, mirrors or soap dispensers, and were held at gunpoint and money demanded of them.  That's called a robbery.

Only damage was a loosely attached advertisement poster.  You actually can see this in the video on the Brazil news, he doesn't intentionally damage anything just grabs at the wall when he goes to use the restroom, the poster falls off. 

So facts of the story. 

1.  Lochte is a moronic idiot of poor intelligence. 

2.  Four US swimmers were robbed/extorted at gunpoint.

3.  Brazil indicted two US athletes prior to questioning the other two victims.  There is no way to get an honest story from people, if you indicted the other two who told their story.  You pretty much are saying, agree with our narrative or you go to jail.

If the exact same thing happened in the US, the security guards would be in jail and the owners of the gas station would be desperately trying to settle out of court for $10-50k for illegally detaining the individuals.

Lochte would still be an moronic idiot of poor intelligence.



forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on August 19, 2016, 05:26:25 PM
Not sure how you arrive at your conclusions, but OK. You do what you have to do to make yourself happy, including working very hard to find "evidence" to make Lochte seem like less of a dope and a liar.

You clearly support our heroic athletes and must be a more patriotic American than the rest of us!

I called Lochte dumb as a stump and said he at the very least owed an apology. 

How I came to my conclusions is that before talking to the other American's they indicted Lochte and Feigen.  They hadn't even heard from 2 key witnesses and were already filing charges against two for going against the narrative they liked.

The link Benny provides contradicts much of the narrative (e.g. breaking doors, mirrors, soap dispensers etc.).  Rather it confirms that they were held at gunpoint and extorted of money. 

Feigen was then forced to pay $11k to leave the country, despite never doing anything wrong.  It has been reported that Feigen's report to the police closely match what actually happened.  He never lied to police.  He did call it a robbery, which I agree with.

forgetful

In more important olympic news.

Congrats to the American women for taking home the Gold in the 4x100.  Dominating race and almost broke 41 from lane 1.  Big disadvantage from that lane and didn't remotely matter.


GooooMarquette

Quote from: forgetful on August 19, 2016, 08:19:31 PM
The link Benny provides contradicts much of the narrative (e.g. breaking doors, mirrors, soap dispensers etc.). 

You might want to read it more carefully.  He never said it didn't happen - he said he didn't witness it happening.  Big difference.


forgetful

Quote from: GooooMarquette on August 19, 2016, 08:35:06 PM
Wait - he forgot to mention that they were coerced by Brazilian police!

Lol

His public report differs from what the Brazillian police say he said.  And why would he say he was coerced, there is no way in hell that his attorney or the US would allow him to say that. 

Quote from: GooooMarquette on August 19, 2016, 08:40:05 PM
You might want to read it more carefully.  He never said it didn't happen - he said he didn't witness it happening.  Big difference.

Yes, there are zero witnesses that saw it happened.  Just reports from the gas station owner in which every time he talks it is different things being damaged.  The only one there is proof of is a poster.

Lochte is a moron.  He doesn't deserve any support.

The other 3 though were robbed at gunpoint, did nothing wrong, two were yanked off planes.  The third was forced to pay $11k for telling the truth (Brazil attorneys say his report matched the stories that came out)...they deserve our support, they were victims of a crime.

GooooMarquette

At this point, two people on earth - forgetful and Lochte - think the swimmers got a bad deal.

Elite company.

GooooMarquette

#296
Quote from: forgetful on August 19, 2016, 08:53:21 PM

Yes, there are zero witnesses that saw it happened.


Wrong yet again.  It only means that this one guy didn't see it happen.  That does not mean zero witnesses saw it.

RIF

I'm done with this one.  Sorry about your son's IQ, Mr. Lochte.

forgetful

#297
Quote from: GooooMarquette on August 19, 2016, 08:40:05 PM
You might want to read it more carefully.  He never said it didn't happen - he said he didn't witness it happening.  Big difference.

No, he said "to my knowledge, there was no damage done to the door or the inside of the restroom".

He also states that the frames were removed from the video that would substantiate his story.  The bathroom door is square in the middle of the videos.  If they forced it open or damaged it, those videos would show it. 

There is a reason some frames are being removed in Brazil's reports.  There is also a reason, why the Brazilian DJ (who translated for the Americans) is the only person at the scene saying a gun was not drawn.  There were multiple other witnesses confirming that guns were drawn and pointed at the Americans, the security guards even originally confirmed pulling their guns (now they are not speaking).

Lochte is a liar.  The Rio police/Brazil are also lying about the narrative.  Bentz's story when he got back to the US indicates that the American's were victims and is probably the only true story out there, but is still carefully worded to ensure not raising more diplomatic problems.

If Lochte had just told the real story as it occurred, the world would have looked at the swimmers as victims.  Lochte though was an idiot, it changed the narrative and now many, including you look at these individuals as terrible.

It's also terrible that this whole Lochte incident has detracted from the narrative and spirit of the olympics.  Instead of focusing on things like D'Agostino helping another fallen runner up and then both helping each other to the finish and D'Agostino getting help to a wheel chair, the world is looking at Lochte's story.

forgetful

Does anyone understand scoring in diving.  I watch it all the time and look at two consecutive dives and can't the difference.  One gets 9's the other get 7's.

I like the sport as I find it crazy how much they can spin and what they can do, but really don't understand the scoring.

That said.  Tom Daley from the UK is pretty insane.

forgetful

Watching women's BMX.  Only thing I can think about is excitebike.... am I the only one.

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