Warriors vs Cavaliers II

[GooooMarquette]

Exactly.  Nailed it.  If there is ANYTHING CLOSE to a flagrant foul on the play (there isn't) it's LeBron throwing Green down.

Yeah, it's pretty interesting that most people (including the NBA) are ignoring the reason Green was on the ground in the first place. 

[GGGG]

Yeah, it's pretty interesting that most people (including the NBA) are ignoring the reason Green was on the ground in the first place. 

They aren't.  Lebron was assessed a technical today.

[GooooMarquette]

They aren't.  Lebron was assessed a technical today.

For stepping over Green. They did nothing about the fact that he threw him to the ground in the first place.

[GGGG]

For stepping over Green. They did nothing about the fact that he threw him to the ground in the first place.

I believe they viewed the altercation as a whole and didn't break it down between the throwdown and the step over.

[GooooMarquette]

I believe they viewed the altercation as a whole and didn't break it down between the throwdown and the step over.

Throwing a guy to the ground should be a flagrant, not a T.

[GGGG]

Throwing a guy to the ground should be a flagrant, not a T.

Conspiracies don't work that way.

[MU82]

Throwing a guy to the ground should be a flagrant, not a T.

Given the fact that Green was given repeated slaps on the wrist for repeatedly kicking opponents in the groin and elsewhere, I would say LeBron's penalty was about right.

[GooooMarquette]

Conspiracies don't work that way.

When the fuçk did I say anything about a conspiracy?  It was a bad call - how in the he!! do you get a conspiracy out of that?

[forgetful]

I believe they viewed the altercation as a whole and didn't break it down between the throwdown and the step over.

Then why wasn't Green's situation looked at as a whole and him assigned a technical also?

As for the looking at it as a whole.  That means Lebron was allowed to commit a flagrant foul, follow it up with committing a technical.  Then throw Green down to the ground again (on the rebound) and try to start a fight.  All that warrants a single technical foul.  No flagrants or anything else.

Green, while getting up has his forearm get near Lebron's junk as Lebron tea bags him, and he gets a flagrant.

Yet you don't see anything disproportionately odd about this? 

At the very least, the double foul part of the play should have been upgraded to a flagrant for Lebron, in addition to him being assessed a technical. 

[GGGG]

Then why wasn't Green's situation looked at as a whole and him assigned a technical also?

As for the looking at it as a whole.  That means Lebron was allowed to commit a flagrant foul, follow it up with committing a technical.  Then throw Green down to the ground again (on the rebound) and try to start a fight.  All that warrants a single technical foul.  No flagrants or anything else.

Green, while getting up has his forearm get near Lebron's junk as Lebron tea bags him, and he gets a flagrant.

Yet you don't see anything disproportionately odd about this? 

No.  I don't think Lebron committed a flagrant foul.  Green punched.

Very simple IMO.

[forgetful]

No.  I don't think Lebron committed a flagrant foul.  Green punched.

Very simple IMO.

As I mentioned earlier, Green's first flagrant in the playoffs was nearly identical to what Lebron did.  So either they are being inconsistent, or flat out got it wrong the first time with Green.

And Green did not punch.  There is no part whatsoever in the video showing Green punching anyone or anything. 

One last question.  Do you honestly believe if this was flipped they would have given Lebron a flagrant and let him be suspended for game 5?

[wadesworld]

No.  I don't think Lebron committed a flagrant foul.  Green punched.

Very simple IMO.

Draymond grew a fist out of his upper forearm?! Mad scientists growing body parts where they don't belong must be part of this conspiracy now too.

[drewm88]

Thank God we have someone to pick up the petty and antagonistic torch in this post-Chicos Scoop world.

[brandx]

Then why wasn't Green's situation looked at as a whole and him assigned a technical also?

As for the looking at it as a whole.  That means Lebron was allowed to commit a flagrant foul, follow it up with committing a technical.  Then throw Green down to the ground again (on the rebound) and try to start a fight.  All that warrants a single technical foul.  No flagrants or anything else.

Green, while getting up has his forearm get near Lebron's junk as Lebron tea bags him, and he gets a flagrant.

Wow. You really made up a lot of stuff here.

[forgetful]

Wow. You really made up a lot of stuff here.

Did Lebron or did Lebron not shove Green to the ground.  (If we go by the altercation between Green and Beasley in the playoffs).

Did Lebron or did Lebron not then tea-bag Green for which he was assigned a technical.

Did Lebron and or did Lebron not tangle up with Green again on the rebound, where Lebron shoves Green to the ground again.  (This one is almost identical to the Green Beasley flagrant). 

My point is if all of that is viewed as a whole and only amounts to a technical.  Then the Green situation could have and should have been viewed in an analogous light and Green at most assigned a technical.  Not the flagrant that gets him suspended.

[rocket surgeon]

Did Lebron or did Lebron not shove Green to the ground.  (If we go by the altercation between Green and Beasley in the playoffs).

Did Lebron or did Lebron not then tea-bag Green for which he was assigned a technical.

Did Lebron and or did Lebron not tangle up with Green again on the rebound, where Lebron shoves Green to the ground again.  (This one is almost identical to the Green Beasley flagrant). 

My point is if all of that is viewed as a whole and only amounts to a technical.  Then the Green situation could have and should have been viewed in an analogous light and Green at most assigned a technical.  Not the flagrant that gets him suspended.

this is exactly the way i see it and i really don't care who wins the NBA championship.  i'm just leaning GS b/c they are exciting as hell to watch.  the scientific method performed by forgetful using his wife as a control(unbiased)observation was perfect.  there is no conspiracy, it's all right out in the open.  i just think everyone's brain works differently.  what strikes me odd is that if lebron truly got "stoned" he didn't flinch one bit.  that is not normal.  any of you guys have experienced this before.  sometimes even the slightest incidental bump can cause you to at least pause for a moment.  lebron...nothing. 

[GGGG]

Draymond grew a fist out of his upper forearm?! Mad scientists growing body parts where they don't belong must be part of this conspiracy now too.

He swung his forearm into his nuts.  Very obvious.  Repeat offender.

[GGGG]

As I mentioned earlier, Green's first flagrant in the playoffs was nearly identical to what Lebron did.  So either they are being inconsistent, or flat out got it wrong the first time with Green.

It wasn't "nearly identical."

One last question.  Do you honestly believe if this was flipped they would have given Lebron a flagrant and let him be suspended for game 5?

Yes.  But Lebron isn't that stupid to get into that situation in the first place.

Really Green has no one to blame but himself here.

[mu03eng]

Thank God we have someone to pick up the petty and antagonistic torch in this post-Chicos Scoop world.

I've been tied up in a new job....Chicos is gone again, what did he do this time?

[naginiF]

I've been tied up in a new job....Chicos is gone again, what did he do this time?

Aside from being a very entertaining thread to read that nugget was news to me as well.  My guess would be the 'Ali' thread was the finale. 

[GGGG]

Heard something today on the radio that I though was fascinating. Every NBA champion since the mid 50s has had at least one top five draft pick on the roster. Now in some cases that player was a role player (Lamar Odom, Bobby Jones), but most of them were the stars.

GSW has Andrew Bogut.

[real chili 83]

Foul

[forgetful]

Watch what they let Cleveland get away with in regards to Curry.  No player is held, pushed, hit more than him off the ball and nothing called...

[real chili 83]

Watch what they let Cleveland get away with in regards to Curry.  No player is held, pushed, hit more than him off the ball and nothing called...

Yet he isn't a whiny little b&^tch about it like the princess.

Now that Chicos is gone, are you and Sultan the new Chicos and Lenny.  Need to get a room fellas.

[forgetful]

Now that Chicos is gone, are you and Sultan the new Chicos and Lenny.  Need to get a room fellas.

I'm sorry Real Chili.  The second line was absolutely unnecessary.  It has been removed.

On a different note.  Van Gundy is about as likeable as a spike studded thong.