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StillAWarrior

To suspend, or not to suspend.  That is the question.

I vote yes.  What say you?


Edited to add link to video.
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GGGG

No.  I don't think it was intentional.  I would not rescind the flagrant foul.

Blackhat

Definitely intentional.   Second instance of it.   Any athlete who's played basketball at a high level, knows where your leg is going on that exaggerated of a movement.   

That's why it's pretty darn rare for a guy to get kicked in the nuts, let alone twice by the same guy in a series.

Blackhat

Suspend him for the first half.

Any more endangering nuts and 2 games.

GooooMarquette

The kick was about as inadvertent as Green putting on his uniform to play the game.

Spotcheck Billy

Suspend him for a game, that looked as intentional as the things Suh does on the FB field.

tower912

I am a big DG fan.  Suspend him.
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rocket surgeon

as annoying as he can be, i don't think it was intentional.  in other news, steve adams has been invited to sing soprano for the florentine opera this weekend
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martyconlonontherun

Normally no, but you can't suspend Jones and not Green.

GGGG

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on May 23, 2016, 11:30:31 AM
Normally no, but you can't suspend Jones and not Green.

Yeah I think you can. Greens was on a basketball move. Jones wasn't.

MU82

I'm quite certain it was intentional. I, too, like the way Green plays, but I say he's gotta sit a game. Can't have ballers goin' after each others balls.
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drewm88

Intentional, and I think they have to suspend him on the heels of the Cleveland suspension. Thought it wouldn't completely shock me if they used the "basketball play" argument and didn't suspend. Without the Jones suspension, he gets off.

I think there'd be a lot more backlash to a non-suspension than to a suspension.

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on May 23, 2016, 11:51:26 AM
I'm quite certain it was intentional. I, too, like the way Green plays, but I say he's gotta sit a game. Can't have ballers goin' after each others balls.

I don't think it was as intentional as "I'm gonna get a nut shot on this dude", but was intentional as "Im gonna kick my legs out and get a shot in so I can make sure people aren't getting close in on me".  Same as jump shooters kicking their legs forward to draw contact.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: JWags85 on May 23, 2016, 12:16:25 PM
I don't think it was as intentional as "I'm gonna get a nut shot on this dude", but was intentional as "Im gonna kick my legs out and get a shot in so I can make sure people aren't getting close in on me".  Same as jump shooters kicking their legs forward to draw contact.

Or Bruce Bowen closeouts.

tower912

Quote from: JWags85 on May 23, 2016, 12:16:25 PM
I don't think it was as intentional as "I'm gonna get a nut shot on this dude", but was intentional as "Im gonna kick my legs out and get a shot in so I can make sure people aren't getting close in on me".  Same as jump shooters kicking their legs forward to draw contact.
Agreed.  How the league views it will determine the punishment.
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brandx

Quote from: JWags85 on May 23, 2016, 12:16:25 PM
I don't think it was as intentional as "I'm gonna get a nut shot on this dude", but was intentional as "Im gonna kick my legs out and get a shot in so I can make sure people aren't getting close in on me".  Same as jump shooters kicking their legs forward to draw contact.

That's what I thought when I saw it live. Jump shooters get the foul call a lot when they throw there legs forward, so I thought is was an attempt by Green to make contact hoping he would get a call.

BrewCity83

The whistle had already blown and the ball was long gone.  That so called "follow through" was not a natural shooting motion or any basketball move related motion, it was just a cheap shot after the whistle.
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StillAWarrior

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on May 23, 2016, 02:50:10 PM
Video of Draymond kicking his legs. Does it all the time.

https://twitter.com/TEN000HOURS/status/734825505971544064

That is interesting.  I have mixed emotions on whether that changes my mind.  On the one hand, he probably did not intentionally kick Adams in the balls -- although I was never really convinced of that anyway.  That mitigates things a bit for me.  On the other hand, he recklessly kicks his legs out all the time.  If he is going to keep doing that, he may have to pay a steep price when it connects.

Speaking as a Cleveland fan, perhaps LeBron should start balling up his hands into fists and swinging them wildly as part of his embarrassingly frequent flopping.  If he should happen to nail someone in the face...hey, he does that all the time...it wasn't intentional.
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brandx

Quote from: BrewCity83 on May 23, 2016, 02:22:38 PM
The whistle had already blown and the ball was long gone.  That so called "follow through" was not a natural shooting motion or any basketball move related motion, it was just a cheap shot after the whistle.

I agree it is not natural - just like when jump shooters do it. Reggie Miller was probably the best (worst) at it.

jutaw22mu

Suspend.  It was intentional based on the way he behaved after the fact.

rocket surgeon

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GooooMarquette

For those saying "don't suspend him" - if you had the talent and size to play against the guy, would you do it without a cup?

BM1090

Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 23, 2016, 08:22:05 PM
For those saying "don't suspend him" - if you had the talent and size to play against the guy, would you do it without a cup?

My opinion is that NBA players flail like that all the time. LeBron flails his arms constantly. Nobody ever gets suspended for flailing. We're going to suspend because he happened to kick someone? Meh.

If you can determine intent, then that's obviously different.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on May 23, 2016, 08:26:02 PM
My opinion is that NBA players flail like that all the time. LeBron flails his arms constantly. Nobody ever gets suspended for flailing. We're going to suspend because he happened to kick someone? Meh.

If you can determine intent, then that's obviously different.

Yeah, the NBA would never suspend a guy for a kick that connects when flailing after a foul.
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