Author Topic: Draymond Green (Read 5700 times)

StillAWarrior · « **on:** May 23, 2016, 06:53:47 AM »

To suspend, or not to suspend. That is the question.

I vote yes. What say you?

Edited to add link to video.

GGGG · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2016, 06:58:24 AM »

No. I don't think it was intentional. I would not rescind the flagrant foul.

Blackhat · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2016, 07:16:56 AM »

Definitely intentional. Second instance of it. Any athlete who's played basketball at a high level, knows where your leg is going on that exaggerated of a movement.

That's why it's pretty darn rare for a guy to get kicked in the nuts, let alone twice by the same guy in a series.

Blackhat · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2016, 07:19:20 AM »

Suspend him for the first half.

Any more endangering nuts and 2 games.

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2016, 07:47:22 AM »

The kick was about as inadvertent as Green putting on his uniform to play the game.

Spotcheck Billy · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2016, 08:41:25 AM »

Suspend him for a game, that looked as intentional as the things Suh does on the FB field.

tower912 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2016, 08:53:19 AM »

I am a big DG fan. Suspend him.

rocket surgeon · « **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2016, 11:10:34 AM »

as annoying as he can be, i don't think it was intentional. in other news, steve adams has been invited to sing soprano for the florentine opera this weekend

martyconlonontherun · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2016, 11:30:31 AM »

Normally no, but you can't suspend Jones and not Green.

GGGG · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2016, 11:39:39 AM »

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on May 23, 2016, 11:30:31 AM

Normally no, but you can't suspend Jones and not Green.

Yeah I think you can. Greens was on a basketball move. Jones wasn't.

MU82 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2016, 11:51:26 AM »

I'm quite certain it was intentional. I, too, like the way Green plays, but I say he's gotta sit a game. Can't have ballers goin' after each others balls.

drewm88 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2016, 12:10:37 PM »

Intentional, and I think they have to suspend him on the heels of the Cleveland suspension. Thought it wouldn't completely shock me if they used the "basketball play" argument and didn't suspend. Without the Jones suspension, he gets off.

I think there'd be a lot more backlash to a non-suspension than to a suspension.

JWags85 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2016, 12:16:25 PM »

Quote from: MU82 on May 23, 2016, 11:51:26 AM

I'm quite certain it was intentional. I, too, like the way Green plays, but I say he's gotta sit a game. Can't have ballers goin' after each others balls.

I don't think it was as intentional as "I'm gonna get a nut shot on this dude", but was intentional as "Im gonna kick my legs out and get a shot in so I can make sure people aren't getting close in on me". Same as jump shooters kicking their legs forward to draw contact.

ChitownSpaceForRent · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2016, 12:31:00 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on May 23, 2016, 12:16:25 PM

I don't think it was as intentional as "I'm gonna get a nut shot on this dude", but was intentional as "Im gonna kick my legs out and get a shot in so I can make sure people aren't getting close in on me". Same as jump shooters kicking their legs forward to draw contact.

Or Bruce Bowen closeouts.

tower912 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2016, 02:05:23 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on May 23, 2016, 12:16:25 PM

I don't think it was as intentional as "I'm gonna get a nut shot on this dude", but was intentional as "Im gonna kick my legs out and get a shot in so I can make sure people aren't getting close in on me". Same as jump shooters kicking their legs forward to draw contact.

Agreed. How the league views it will determine the punishment.

brandx · « **Reply #15 on:** May 23, 2016, 02:19:34 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on May 23, 2016, 12:16:25 PM

I don't think it was as intentional as "I'm gonna get a nut shot on this dude", but was intentional as "Im gonna kick my legs out and get a shot in so I can make sure people aren't getting close in on me". Same as jump shooters kicking their legs forward to draw contact.

That's what I thought when I saw it live. Jump shooters get the foul call a lot when they throw there legs forward, so I thought is was an attempt by Green to make contact hoping he would get a call.

BrewCity83 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 23, 2016, 02:22:38 PM »

The whistle had already blown and the ball was long gone. That so called "follow through" was not a natural shooting motion or any basketball move related motion, it was just a cheap shot after the whistle.

BM1090 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 23, 2016, 02:50:10 PM »

Video of Draymond kicking his legs. Does it all the time.

https://twitter.com/TEN000HOURS/status/734825505971544064

StillAWarrior · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2016, 03:17:15 PM »

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on May 23, 2016, 02:50:10 PM

Video of Draymond kicking his legs. Does it all the time.

https://twitter.com/TEN000HOURS/status/734825505971544064

That is interesting. I have mixed emotions on whether that changes my mind. On the one hand, he probably did not intentionally kick Adams in the balls -- although I was never really convinced of that anyway. That mitigates things a bit for me. On the other hand, he recklessly kicks his legs out all the time. If he is going to keep doing that, he may have to pay a steep price when it connects.

Speaking as a Cleveland fan, perhaps LeBron should start balling up his hands into fists and swinging them wildly as part of his embarrassingly frequent flopping. If he should happen to nail someone in the face...hey, he does that all the time...it wasn't intentional.

brandx · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2016, 04:37:40 PM »

Quote from: BrewCity83 on May 23, 2016, 02:22:38 PM

The whistle had already blown and the ball was long gone. That so called "follow through" was not a natural shooting motion or any basketball move related motion, it was just a cheap shot after the whistle.

I agree it is not natural - just like when jump shooters do it. Reggie Miller was probably the best (worst) at it.

jutaw22mu · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2016, 05:10:18 PM »

Suspend. It was intentional based on the way he behaved after the fact.

rocket surgeon · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2016, 05:13:36 PM »

the best offense is a good defense-HEY'nahey?

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #22 on:** May 23, 2016, 08:22:05 PM »

For those saying "don't suspend him" - if you had the talent and size to play against the guy, would you do it without a cup?

BM1090 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 23, 2016, 08:26:02 PM »

Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 23, 2016, 08:22:05 PM

For those saying "don't suspend him" - if you had the talent and size to play against the guy, would you do it without a cup?

My opinion is that NBA players flail like that all the time. LeBron flails his arms constantly. Nobody ever gets suspended for flailing. We're going to suspend because he happened to kick someone? Meh.

If you can determine intent, then that's obviously different.

StillAWarrior · « **Reply #24 on:** May 23, 2016, 09:31:17 PM »

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on May 23, 2016, 08:26:02 PM

My opinion is that NBA players flail like that all the time. LeBron flails his arms constantly. Nobody ever gets suspended for flailing. We're going to suspend because he happened to kick someone? Meh.

If you can determine intent, then that's obviously different.

Yeah, the NBA would never suspend a guy for a kick that connects when flailing after a foul.

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