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Quote from: Brewtown Andy on June 17, 2016, 08:05:48 AM
Pretty sure Michigan's not our rival.

The hell it ain't.

They stole our colors!
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Herman Cain

Quote from: Brewtown Andy on June 17, 2016, 08:05:48 AM
Pretty sure Michigan's not our rival.
Pretty sure Xavier's our rival.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 17, 2016, 09:13:41 AM
Pretty sure Xavier's our rival.

But if he picks Michigan over Xavier.....
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brewcity77

From Jeff Goodman: "Kentucky transfer Charles Matthews is headed to Michigan, source told ESPN."

JakeBarnes

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 21, 2016, 01:08:35 PM
From Jeff Goodman: "Kentucky transfer Charles Matthews is headed to Michigan, source told ESPN."

Wojo can't recruit
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Herman Cain

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 21, 2016, 01:08:35 PM
From Jeff Goodman: "Kentucky transfer Charles Matthews is headed to Michigan, source told ESPN."
At least it wasnt Xavier.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 21, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
At least it wasnt Xavier.

Why? The more talent in the Big East, the better.
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TAMU

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Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 21, 2016, 02:32:45 PM
Why? The more talent in the Big East, the better.
That is a good point .I was on that theme last year. I guess Now that we are getting better the rivalry mode is kicking in and I can see Mathews being an effective player with meaningful playing time.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 21, 2016, 04:01:51 PM
That is a good point .I was on that theme last year. I guess Now that we are getting better the rivalry mode is kicking in and I can see Mathews being an effective player with meaningful playing time.

Yes, and as TAMU Eagle said, the more talent in the Big East, the better.  Good post season teams usually come from leagues where they were challenged by great players.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Earl Tatum

Just read that Charles Matthews is probably headed to Michigan

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Earl Tatum on June 22, 2016, 10:14:59 PM
Just read that Charles Matthews is probably headed to Michigan
With Sacar?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Earl Tatum on June 22, 2016, 10:14:59 PM
Just read that Charles Matthews is probably headed to Michigan

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brewcity77

Quote from: Earl Tatum on June 22, 2016, 10:14:59 PM
Just read that Charles Matthews is probably headed to Michigan

Where did you read that? 6 posts up?

The Equalizer

Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on June 21, 2016, 05:26:19 PM
Yes, and as TAMU Eagle said, the more talent in the Big East, the better.  Good post season teams usually come from leagues where they were challenged by great players.

I think its far more likely that good post season teams are those that land great players themselves--irrespective of the other talent in the league.  Being in a league where you're challenged by great players is irrelevant--just compare Gonzaga to Northwestern.

Plus, over the past few years we've seen teams from the Horizon (twice), American, Missouri Valley, and Colonial make the final four--and nobody would argue that you get challenged by lots of great talent in any of those conferences.

At this point, the league has more than enough overall talent to generate an acceptable amount of national respect.

Which means that if the other teams get stronger, it harms MU's chance at success. We don't help our chances of reaching the tournament next year by losing two games to Xavier. And had Matthews gone with Xavier, it would have done nothing but increase the chance that Xavier tags us with those two losses.

We should be glad Xavier isn't getting any stronger.

I'm not suggesting we should hope for Summit or Horizon league levels of talent--just that we'd be better off in a situation like Gonzaga, where there are only one or two teams with a concentration of talent.

KampusFoods

Quote from: Earl Tatum on June 22, 2016, 10:14:59 PM
Just read that Charles Matthews is probably headed to Michigan

Vintage Earl

bilsu

Quote from: The Equalizer on June 23, 2016, 07:49:51 AM
I think its far more likely that good post season teams are those that land great players themselves--irrespective of the other talent in the league.  Being in a league where you're challenged by great players is irrelevant--just compare Gonzaga to Northwestern.

Plus, over the past few years we've seen teams from the Horizon (twice), American, Missouri Valley, and Colonial make the final four--and nobody would argue that you get challenged by lots of great talent in any of those conferences.

At this point, the league has more than enough overall talent to generate an acceptable amount of national respect.

Which means that if the other teams get stronger, it harms MU's chance at success. We don't help our chances of reaching the tournament next year by losing two games to Xavier. And had Matthews gone with Xavier, it would have done nothing but increase the chance that Xavier tags us with those two losses.

We should be glad Xavier isn't getting any stronger.

I'm not suggesting we should hope for Summit or Horizon league levels of talent--just that we'd be better off in a situation like Gonzaga, where there are only one or two teams with a concentration of talent.
I wonder, if with the same talent over the years, if Gonzaga would of fared better in the NCAA tournament had they been playing in the Big 10 all of those years. You are either good enough to make the tournament or you are not. Playing against good teams better prepares you for the NCAA tournament, so I would argue it helps us to have the rest of the league stronger. We do not belong in the tournament, if we cannot compete with the tournament caliber teams. We fared quite well when we were in the old Big East.

wadesworld

Quote from: bilsu on June 23, 2016, 08:54:16 AM
I wonder, if with the same talent over the years, if Gonzaga would of fared better in the NCAA tournament had they been playing in the Big 10 all of those years. You are either good enough to make the tournament or you are not. Playing against good teams better prepares you for the NCAA tournament, so I would argue it helps us to have the rest of the league stronger. We do not belong in the tournament, if we cannot compete with the tournament caliber teams. We fared quite well when we were in the old Big East.

I don't think George Mason would've been a NCAA Tournament team in 2006 had they been playing in the Big East, but they made the Final Four because they played in a weak conference, got in, and got hot at the right time.

Earl Tatum

On Charles Matthews--Source informed ESPN according to the Detroit Free Press 2 days ago.

GGGG

Guys, good source told me that Ike Eke committed to Marquette over the weekend.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Earl Tatum on June 23, 2016, 12:11:23 PM
On Charles Matthews--Source informed ESPN according to the Detroit Free Press 2 days ago.
What do you think of the rumors swirling around that Henry might declare for the draft?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 23, 2016, 12:14:56 PM
Guys, good source told me that Ike Eke committed to Marquette over the weekend.

Source? 8-)
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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Earl Tatum

Espn reporter Jeff Goodman. Scout Com--Evan Daniels confirmed the report with Matthews'
HS Coach Gary DeCesare

Herman Cain

Quote from: Earl Tatum on June 23, 2016, 12:47:33 PM
Espn reporter Jeff Goodman. Scout Com--Evan Daniels confirmed the report with Matthews'
HS Coach Gary DeCesare
Thanks for the details. It is too bad, as I thought he would be a nice pick up for us.
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    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

bilsu

Quote from: wadesworld on June 23, 2016, 09:09:29 AM
I don't think George Mason would've been a NCAA Tournament team in 2006 had they been playing in the Big East, but they made the Final Four because they played in a weak conference, got in, and got hot at the right time.
Yes, but you are comparing a mid-major conference to a major conference that gets multiple bids. The Big East should generally get 5 bids.

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