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Poll:If You were an NBA GM who would you pick?

Henry Ellenson
Deyonta Davis
Ben Bentil
Brice Johnson

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Jay Bee

Quote from: brandx on May 06, 2016, 11:32:17 PM
Just my opinion ....

Davis is an unknown and at least a couple years away from having any effect.

Remember, if your opinion comes from ignorance, it's validity in a circumstance like this is none.

Deyonta was ridiculous in his final travel bball season before his senior year of high school. Many who were in the gym, including myself, projected him to be where he is today. He's not new or 'unknown'.

http://latenighthoops.com/eybl-spiece-starts-4-0-behind-spartan-commit-davis/#more-2536
The portal is NOT closed.

brandx

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 15, 2016, 03:13:08 PM
Remember, if your opinion comes from ignorance, it's validity in a circumstance like this is none.

Deyonta was ridiculous in his final travel bball season before his senior year of high school. Many who were in the gym, including myself, projected him to be where he is today. He's not new or 'unknown'.

http://latenighthoops.com/eybl-spiece-starts-4-0-behind-spartan-commit-davis/#more-2536

I meant unknown in the sense that he played less than 20 minutes a game in his college career.

I'm guessing you knew that, but you needed to be the condescending jerk you try hard to be.

The NBA needs just a mite more evidence than watching a 16 year old kid.

Jay Bee

Quote from: brandx on May 15, 2016, 03:29:55 PM
I meant unknown in the sense that he played less than 20 minutes a game in his college career.

I'm guessing you knew that, but you needed to be the condescending jerk you try hard to be.

The NBA needs just a mite more evidence than watching a 16 year old kid.

So if he played 28 minutes a game, he'd go from unknown to known?

The NBA "just a mite" (sic) have seen him since age 16, since he's 19 and a half years old.

Your use of 'unknown' was poor and wrong.

Further, the idea that logging 650 minutes at Michigan State renders him 'unknown' due to lack of playing time is ridiculous.
The portal is NOT closed.

Herman Cain

Toward the end of the Big Ten Season I saw a play sequence where Davis block three consecutive  shots in a row. A real rim protector.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Jay Bee

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on May 15, 2016, 04:57:13 PM
Toward the end of the Big Ten Season I saw a play sequence where Davis block three consecutive  shots in a row. A real rim protector.

He is known to you, but unknown to NBA scouts.
The portal is NOT closed.

brandx

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 15, 2016, 05:17:42 PM
He is known to you, but unknown to NBA scouts.

Of course I never said he was unknown to NBA scouts, but then again, what else can you say when you want to be like your hero, chica.

GGGG

Quote from: brandx on May 15, 2016, 05:47:13 PM
Of course I never said he was unknown to NBA scouts,


Cmon...it certainly is implied when you are talking about the NBA draft. 

Jay Bee

Quote from: brandx on May 15, 2016, 05:47:13 PM
Of course I never said he was unknown to NBA scouts

Got it. So when the topic was "If You Were An NBA GM Who Would You Pick", you commented that he's an unknown... but you thought he was known to the NBA.

Lol. Get real. What an idiot.
The portal is NOT closed.

brandx

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 15, 2016, 05:51:25 PM
Got it. So when the topic was "If You Were An NBA GM Who Would You Pick", you commented that he's an unknown... but you thought he was known to the NBA.

Lol. Get real. What an idiot.

Sorry chico.

I said he was an unknown because I don't think he will be much of a factor for at least a couple years. He only played 18 minutes a game at MSU. Of course in the NBA, he won't have to try to beat out stars like Matt Costello for playing time. He was on a size-challenged MSU team and still didn't see big minutes.

He has nowhere near the court awareness of Ellenson. Much more physically gifted and may be better long term, but HE is the better player now.

brewcity77

The more I hear about his performances, the more I like Bentil, and I was high on him before all the draft coverage. I really think he should be a top-5 player in this draft. He probably won't be, but someone will end up with a steal. The kid has been playing competitive basketball for what, 6 years? He's just scratching the surface of his talent.

Herman Cain

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 15, 2016, 09:09:24 PM
The more I hear about his performances, the more I like Bentil, and I was high on him before all the draft coverage. I really think he should be a top-5 player in this draft. He probably won't be, but someone will end up with a steal. The kid has been playing competitive basketball for what, 6 years? He's just scratching the surface of his talent.
I agree with this analysis.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brandx

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 15, 2016, 09:09:24 PM
The more I hear about his performances, the more I like Bentil, and I was high on him before all the draft coverage. I really think he should be a top-5 player in this draft. He probably won't be, but someone will end up with a steal. The kid has been playing competitive basketball for what, 6 years? He's just scratching the surface of his talent.

Can Bentil put the ball on the floor? I seem to recall he is more of a spot up shooter so I am wondering how his game will translate to the NBA. Looks like he could be a decent rebounder and defender for his size.

If he can drive with the ball, maybe a slightly lesser version of Paul Millsap?

wadesworld

Quote from: brandx on May 15, 2016, 10:53:15 PM
Can Bentil put the ball on the floor? I seem to recall he is more of a spot up shooter so I am wondering how his game will translate to the NBA. Looks like he could be a decent rebounder and defender for his size.

If he can drive with the ball, maybe a slightly lesser version of Paul Millsap?

Yeah Dunn created a lot of open opportunities for him. Not a great (but not horrible) rebounder, not overly big, not too athletic, and for the NBA an average shooter and below average ball handler and defender.

Tugg Speedman


brandx

Quote from: Heisenberg on May 16, 2016, 06:41:41 AM
Where does Stone fit in all of this?

15 -20 range, if I had to make a prediction. I actually think he will make a decent pro down the line. Good shooter, good passer, good size, pathetic defender, struggles with the offensive flow of the game; lots to learn yet, but also possesses lots of skills.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst


KampusFoods

I didn't watch a ton of UNC, but from what I saw in the tournament, somebody is getting a steal with Brice Johnson if he goes near draftexpress's prediction of 30th. Is it just because he's 22 instead of 19? What's the knock on him?

wadesworld

Quote from: RKMU123 on May 17, 2016, 12:39:18 PM
I didn't watch a ton of UNC, but from what I saw in the tournament, somebody is getting a steal with Brice Johnson if he goes near draftexpress's prediction of 30th. Is it just because he's 22 instead of 19? What's the knock on him?

He can't score the ball from outside of about 10 feet and is about as skinny as I am.  I love Brice and love watching him, he's a freak athlete, but he's nothing more than John Henson 2.0.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

Measurements are now being reviewed by the NBA

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA-League-Office-Draft-Combine-Measurements-Under-Review-5499

This may impact certain players as it relates to measurement of vertical leap.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brandx

#48
Jakob Poeltl measured a 8'9 ½ standing reach, which is very small for someone standing over 7-feet tall barefoot, with a 7'3 wingspan.

At 6'2" my standing reach is 8'. So despite Poetl having a 7'3" wingspan, his arms are shorter than mine? Yup, something is amiss with the measurements.


Melo Trimble measured a 7'8 ½ standing reach, which is very small for someone standing over 6'1 barefoot. Maybe daddy was an alligator.

tower912

What were Green's, Thompson's and Curry's measurables again?    How about Durant and Westbrook's?
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