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TAMU, Knower of Ball

#1
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2016

The actual list isn't Insider only.

Markus Howard at #84
Sam Hauser at #86
Brendan Bailey not listed (might be because of his mission)
Kalif Young not listed

Some other BEast recruits:
Omari Spellman #18 (Villanova)
Shamorie Ponds #36 (St. John's)
Myles Powell #81 (Seton Hall)
Quentin Goodin #92 (Xavier)
Tyrique Jones #94 (Xavier)

Of note:
Amir Coffey #32 (former MU target)
Harvard ends up with 4 top 100 recruits?
Duke, UCLA, and UK end up with 9/14 of the top 14 recruits
Biancardi claims this is the best high school class since 2007 (Love, Griffin, OJ Mayo, etc)
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Windyplayer

Thanks. For some reason, I thought Howard was much higher.

Chili

Quote from: Windyplayer on April 26, 2016, 10:56:03 AM
Thanks. For some reason, I thought Howard was much higher.

He was about 35-40 in the 2017 rankings. My guess is they just tossed him in somewhere.
But I like to throw handfuls...

Windyplayer

Quote from: Chili on April 26, 2016, 11:01:57 AM
He was about 35-40 in the 2017 rankings. My guess is they just tossed him in somewhere.
Ah, that's right.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Windyplayer on April 26, 2016, 10:56:03 AM
Thanks. For some reason, I thought Howard was much higher.

247 composite has him at 39. ESPN is the least reliable site when it comes to recruiting rankings IMHO
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brewcity77

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 26, 2016, 11:26:57 AM
247 composite has him at 39. ESPN is the least reliable site when it comes to recruiting rankings IMHO

Agreed. Their summaries are nice and the main reason I have Insider, but their actual rankings seem somewhat haphazard.

MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 26, 2016, 11:26:57 AM
247 composite has him at 39. ESPN is the least reliable site when it comes to recruiting rankings IMHO

247's team rankings have us at 15, just ahead of Shaka, Larry Brown and It's Indiana and just behind Zags, KU and Oregon. FWIW.
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CountryRoads

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 26, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
Agreed. Their summaries are nice and the main reason I have Insider, but their actual rankings seem somewhat haphazard.

Agree but wojo is probably sharpening up his axe just in case.

jsglow

Quote from: MU82 on April 26, 2016, 11:38:10 AM
247's team rankings have us at 15, just ahead of Shaka, Larry Brown and It's Indiana and just behind Zags, KU and Oregon. FWIW.

And #1 in the BEast for the second straight year.

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=Big-East

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Windyplayer

Typically, how many 5 stars are in a class? 10-15?

NotAnAlum

Quote from: MU82 on April 26, 2016, 11:38:10 AM
247's team rankings have us at 15, just ahead of Shaka, Larry Brown and It's Indiana and just behind Zags, KU and Oregon. FWIW.

And if you base it on average rank of recruits we're in the top 10. Its hard to complete when we only have 3... I mean 4 slots to fill. ;)

MU82

Quote from: NotAnAlum on April 26, 2016, 03:02:44 PM
And if you base it on average rank of recruits we're in the top 10. Its hard to complete when we only have 3... I mean 4 slots to fill. ;)

Yep, so far - 3 slots, 3 four-star recruits. Pretty good.

Of course, there are a couple dopes on here who say that Damion Lee signing with Louisville is proof that Wojo can't recruit.

I think one of those same dopes said Wojo "better get Howard" - as if Howard decided to go elsewhere, Lovell would have immediately fired Wojo.
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brandx

Quote from: Windyplayer on April 26, 2016, 02:52:02 PM
Typically, how many 5 stars are in a class? 10-15?

Typically, about 25 depending on the service.

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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 26, 2016, 11:26:57 AM
247 composite has him at 39. ESPN is the least reliable site when it comes to recruiting rankings IMHO
I agree with this analysis.
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Marcus92

Did you notice that UNC only has 1 recruit among the top 50 — and nobody in the top 10? Could be that players are very aware of what's going on with the academic scandal.
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Groin_pull

Quote from: Marcus92 on April 27, 2016, 08:29:23 AM
Did you notice that UNC only has 1 recruit among the top 50 — and nobody in the top 10? Could be that players are very aware of what's going on with the academic scandal.

Scandal? Hahaha. We all know the NCAA will let them walk away with only a mild slap on the wrist--if that.

Marcus92

Quote from: Groin_pull on April 27, 2016, 08:38:39 AMScandal? Hahaha. We all know the NCAA will let them walk away with only a mild slap on the wrist--if that.

I wouldn't be too sure. The NCAA ordered Jim Boeheim — one of the winningest coaches in college basketball history — suspended for 9 games and vacated over 100 of his wins. Syracuse also lost 12 scholarships over 4 years and all of its shares from appearing in the NCAA tourney from 2011-13.

Granted, that's not the death penalty. But I wouldn't call it a slap on the wrist, either. Those are significant penalties, from the less tangible cost of publicly shaming the university to losing recruiting opportunities and millions of dollars of revenue.

The UNC scandal is possibly the biggest academic fraud in the history of college sports. The university's standing as an educational institution is at stake. You can never predict what the NCAA will do. But I expect there will be sanctions. And that they'll have some bite.
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brewcity77

Quote from: Marcus92 on April 27, 2016, 08:29:23 AM
Did you notice that UNC only has 1 recruit among the top 50 — and nobody in the top 10? Could be that players are very aware of what's going on with the academic scandal.

Roy doesn't like playing the one and done game. Would rather get the best recruits he thinks will play 4 years (like Paige and Johnson). Sometimes they still leave early, but he's not working the same way as K or Cal.

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Quote from: Marcus92 on April 27, 2016, 09:29:10 AM
I wouldn't be too sure. The NCAA ordered Jim Boeheim — one of the winningest coaches in college basketball history — suspended for 9 games and vacated over 100 of his wins. Syracuse also lost 12 scholarships over 4 years and all of its shares from appearing in the NCAA tourney from 2011-13.

Granted, that's not the death penalty. But I wouldn't call it a slap on the wrist, either. Those are significant penalties, from the less tangible cost of publicly shaming the university to losing recruiting opportunities and millions of dollars of revenue.

The UNC scandal is possibly the biggest academic fraud in the history of college sports. The university's standing as an educational institution is at stake. You can never predict what the NCAA will do. But I expect there will be sanctions. And that they'll have some bite.

The difference could come down to Syracuse was hit with academic misconduct and UNC men's Bball does not get mentioned for that in the ANOI. Roy Williams has publicly stated that his sport will come out fine, before the release of the ANOI that was laughed at, now no one is laughing except maybe Roy.

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