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RubyWiscy

Quote from: forgetful on April 14, 2016, 11:38:39 PM
Remember, Wally has a lot of options.  He could decide to go pro in track and then pay his own way to still play basketball.

That way he can focus on Track all summer and come back for his senior year to be a part of the team.

Wally's younger brother could drop a few to cover his senior year as well making him a walk-on. Should certainly be enough cash laying around for the family in a few months.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: CTWarrior on April 15, 2016, 07:52:40 AM
Stainbrook's younger brother was a walk-on.  After the elder Stainbrook graduated, Xavier allowed them to swap so that the younger brother was the scholarship player and Matt was the walk-on because tuition was lower for a graduate student.  Saved the Stainbrook family some money.  Not quite the same scenario here.

Stains also landed that sweet job at Uber to supplement his tuition.

jsglow

Quote from: CTWarrior on April 15, 2016, 07:52:40 AM
Stainbrook's younger brother was a walk-on.  After the elder Stainbrook graduated, Xavier allowed them to swap so that the younger brother was the scholarship player and Matt was the walk-on because tuition was lower for a graduate student.  Saved the Stainbrook family some money.  Not quite the same scenario here.

Thanks for the clarification CT. Point is that the Ellenson family is close to MU. Some form of scholly concession is more plausible than 'adoption'.

21rooster

#303
Does anyone know if Wally has completed enough credits to qualify as a grad student?  I wonder how much cheaper MU would be if he has.  I've always thought these "brother pays" scenarios were crazy, but it seems like nearly any scenario is pretty crazy at this point.  What's more illogical - Wally as a walk-on or a transfer (different player) who STILL hasn't announced that he is transferring (while others are taking potential spots)? 

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: CTWarrior on April 15, 2016, 07:52:40 AM
Stainbrook's younger brother was a walk-on.  After the elder Stainbrook graduated, Xavier allowed them to swap so that the younger brother was the scholarship player and Matt was the walk-on because tuition was lower for a graduate student.  Saved the Stainbrook family some money.  Not quite the same scenario here.

Stainbrook driving the Uber.

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Quote from: Big Daddy Young 84 on April 14, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
Not a full report.  Jet Lag is hitting me hard and was late to the show and only talked to some folks,  I know I am not showing my Warrior side very well right now.


But some updates:

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.
2.   JJJ, DW, SA, HC, TC, AR, MH, LF, all good.
3.   SC3 not sure...just don't have info, don't draw any conclusions on this.
4.   Kalif Young still target.  If they can get him or someone else significant they will figure a way to make it work. 

Name change.  Nice

GGGG

Quote from: 21rooster on April 15, 2016, 08:22:58 AM
Does anyone know if Wally has completed enough credits to qualify as a grad student?  I wonder how much cheaper MU would be if he has.  I've always thought these "brother pays" scenarios were crazy, but it seems like nearly any scenario is pretty crazy at this point.  What's more illogical - Wally as a walk-on or a transfer who STILL hasn't announced that he is transferring (while others are taking potential spots)? 


The most logical would be Wally giving up basketball to focus on track.  So there is no issue of time.

kmwtrucks

Quote from: wadesworld on April 15, 2016, 06:44:29 AM
Henry Ellenson is not paying for little bro's education. Just like OJ Mayo wasn't paying for Toddler's, Giannis isn't paying for Kostas's, etc. etc. etc. We can move on from that thought. That's not how it works.

The one Difference is WE have paid 3 years of education to the Ellenson family and made Henry the focus of our team and put him in a good situation to go pro after one year.   OJ and Giannis have no afflation to MU at all.   Do you think Butler, Wade, Wes do not donate a little cash to MU?  If Henry approached them and said I want to donate $50K from my rookie contract that would not be unheard of.   henry is a WISC with Big MU ties,   I'm sure at some point he donates some Money to MU.  This is the only way he can give it directly to the basketball team.

GGGG

Really if I were Wally and the Ellenson family and the suggestion was made that big brother pay for his tuition, I would flip out.  Unless this was a predetermined move OR a move initiated by the Ellensons, and I really, really doubt it was, the entire idea would be insulting.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Look, if they really want to make room for Young, it will just involve a frank discussion with one of the players where they tell him "look, you're a great player. But next year I don't see you getting off the bench. And I"m not sure you'll ever get off the bench here at Marquette. If you want to work at it and prove me wrong, do it. But if playing time is your priority, transferring might be your best option."

There won't be any complicated adoptions, brothers paying for each other, etc. They will just talk to a player and convince them it is in their best interest to find another program. Happens all the time. How do you think Buzz got rid of players like Mbao, Ferguson, and Christopherson (damn...that last one was a mistake).
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21rooster

I agree that this idea could never have been suggested by MU - would have been driven by Wally making a decision that he is going to be more focused on track, but he'd still like to be a contributor to the basketball team.  I'm pretty skeptical that this would happen...but it also would be surprising to see someone announce a transfer this late in the game (unless it was a kid planning to downgrade to a smaller school where openings are easier to find). 

Groin_pull

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 15, 2016, 08:35:11 AM
Really if I were Wally and the Ellenson family and the suggestion was made that big brother pay for his tuition, I would flip out.  Unless this was a predetermined move OR a move initiated by the Ellensons, and I really, really doubt it was, the entire idea would be insulting.

Agree. No idea how it suddenly became Henry's responsibility to pay for Wally's education. Silly discussion.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: real chili 83 on April 15, 2016, 05:44:52 AM
How long is the spring signing period.  I'm surprised someone as good as Young is still doing visits this late in his senior year.

Kalif & his coach are on record saying they could definitely wait until May to pick a school

wadesworld

Quote from: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 08:18:11 AM
Thanks for the clarification CT. Point is that the Ellenson family is close to MU. Some form of scholly concession is more plausible than 'adoption'.

Both of those scenarios are just as plausible as each other: not at all.  Either of those are just as plausible as Drake deciding to pay every players' tuition on the entire roster because he's close to Haanif.  It just doesn't work that way.

Nukem2

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 15, 2016, 08:35:11 AM
Really if I were Wally and the Ellenson family and the suggestion was made that big brother pay for his tuition, I would flip out.  Unless this was a predetermined move OR a move initiated by the Ellensons, and I really, really doubt it was, the entire idea would be insulting.
This.

wadesworld

I'm actually trying to imagine the conversation now.

Wojo: Hank, your leaving puts us in a pretty tough spot at the 4.  Your brother is going to have the opportunity to log some decent minutes there if he continues playing with us.  The problem is, we really need someone better at the 4, but we don't have any scholarships left to give out to someone who would take Walter's minutes away from him.  Do you think, with your new wealth, you'd be willing to drop $35K for your brother to lose his minutes?

Hank: You know I got you, coach!

...yeah...no.

Daniel

Is Wally's collegiate track elegibility exhausted or does he have a year left?  Is it possible (I.e, is it allowed) that he gets a track scholarship and be a walk-on for b-ball?  Seems like he did the reverse last year.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Daniel on April 15, 2016, 09:38:16 AM
Is Wally's collegiate track elegibility exhausted or does he have a year left?  Is it possible (I.e, is it allowed) that he gets a track scholarship and be a walk-on for b-ball?  Seems like he did the reverse last year.

These types of arrangements are not allowed.
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KampusFoods

Quote from: Daniel on April 15, 2016, 09:38:16 AM
Is Wally's collegiate track elegibility exhausted or does he have a year left?  Is it possible (I.e, is it allowed) that he gets a track scholarship and be a walk-on for b-ball?  Seems like he did the reverse last year.

If he does both, the scholarship must count for basketball.

Most football teams would put a bunch of guys on track scholarships to make room for more football schollie players if they could. Believe Miami tried this, which either got them in trouble or caused the NCAA to make this rule.

21rooster

#319
The only reason this crazy notion has come up is BD's post.  His post leaves four options:
1.  BD has bad info
2.  Sandy is moving on (since he's the only ? for BD), and likely to a small school where a late transfer announcement isn't a big deal
3.  Hauser is not coming (seems very unlikely, but he's not mentioned in BD's post)
4.  Something unorthodox with Wally

Option 2 seems most likely if BD has good info, but otherwise something odd is coming (unless we're hosting officials without a spot available). 

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jsglow

Agreed with rooster. We have official visits set up. That means Wojo has a way to open a scholly.  Maybe nothing happens. But maybe someone currently counting doesn't 30 days from now.  In my mind,  Wojo has a clear understanding of how that works out depending on these visits.

blikemike2

Hasn't Sam signed his NLI?

wadesworld


MomofMUltiples

Wally exhausts his outdoor track eligibility this year. He still has two seasons of indoor eligibility, but as that conflicts with basketball season and BD says he plans to participate with the team next year, I doubt he will be doing any more college track after this season.
I mean, OK, maybe he's secretly a serial killer who's pulled the wool over our eyes with his good deeds and smooth jumper - Pakuni (on Markus Howard)

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