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brandx

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2016, 12:39:48 PM
If we go after a grad transfer and a 2017 eligible transfer in favor of Kalif Young will that put to rest the myth that we are in it for the long run rather than trying to win today?

I don't think anyone has said that. And they are not mutually exclusive.

On the other hand, that was probably a teal comment.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Howard's Eagle on April 08, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
No one is saying that. Wojo is absolutely trying to win today but isn't doing at the expense of the long run. If we had two schollies, a grad transfer and a 2017 transfer would make perfect sense. It addresses our immediate need for a PF and our greater future need for a big of any type in 17-18. Its winning today and being in it for the long run.

You would have a better argument if we only had 1 schollie and we went after a grad transfer over a Kalif Young or a 2017 transfer.

If we get a grad transfer this year it will be the third "one and done" player Wojo has brought to MU in three years. And he's gone hard after at least two others. Before that, Trent Lockett is the only grad transfer in MU history. My conclusion? The idea that he's sacrificing winning now to "build" for the future is nonsense. His #1 priority (like any decent coach) is to win today - because if you win today it's a whole lot easier to win tomorrow.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Windyplayer on April 08, 2016, 02:09:45 PM
I know, I know, rankings don't mean everything, but 247 has Kalif Young as the #318 player in the country. Not exactly someone we need to get. Sometimes I think we just want players because our coach is in on them and to boost the short-term collective ego of MU nation.

247 also shows him with several offers from other high majors besides MU. Maybe the coaches see something that the "experts" don't.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: jsglow on April 08, 2016, 10:57:04 AM
I like visits.  Especially last visits.

Zags specifically said "On Kalif Young those are his first 3 visits, not final 3"

He plans on taking 2 more

bilsu

Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 08, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
247 also shows him with several offers from other high majors besides MU. Maybe the coaches see something that the "experts" don't.
There are not a lot of options in the spring. No way of knowing, if these same schools would of been interested in the fall signing period.

brewcity77

Quote from: muguru on April 08, 2016, 01:55:39 PM
Young is just kind of...meh. Now he may develop obviously, but the problem is, you want as many studs as you can possibly get(talent wins over the long haul), and he is NOT a stud...MU NEEDS(it's an absolute must) to get in the tournament next year, zero question about it...go get TWO studs that can contribute major minutes right now( one 4 and one wherever), and roll...that's how you do it.

Good plan! Should work just as well as our three headed monster of Ellenson, Damion Lee, and Shonn Miller did last year. Was really satisfying seeing us back in the tourney with secondary one and dones and a traditional one and done.

The only thing that didn't work out with that team and their Elite Eight run was that pesky little thing called "reality", but why let that ruin the season that was(n't)?

The Lens

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2016, 04:59:41 PM
If we get a grad transfer this year it will be the third "one and done" player Wojo has brought to MU in three years. And he's gone hard after at least two others. Before that, Trent Lockett is the only grad transfer in MU history. My conclusion? The idea that he's sacrificing winning now to "build" for the future is nonsense. His #1 priority (like any decent coach) is to win today - because if you win today it's a whole lot easier to win tomorrow.


Stop it!  There's a perfect non squirmy story and you're ruining it!
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History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

macman320

For 16-17 we have 12 scholarship players without Bailey, 13 with MH.

How many scholarship players does each team get? Are we at the point where one player needs to transfer in order to bring in a new one?

WarriorPride68

Quote from: macman320 on April 09, 2016, 07:37:18 AM
For 16-17 we have 12 scholarship players without Bailey, 13 with MH.

How many scholarship players does each team get? Are we at the point where one player needs to transfer in order to bring in a new one?

I believe we have 1 scholarship for 2016.

- Bailey won't come until 2018
- Howard is coming for 2016

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Groin_pull on April 08, 2016, 01:57:56 PM
Gosh, I didn't realize it was that easy. Just go out and recruit two stars. Why didn't Wojo think of this???

come on man!  dincha ever hear of a shot in da dark walk on hey?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 08, 2016, 02:12:33 PM
What was Davantes ranking? Furthermore, what was Steve Taylor's ranking. Davante was ranked lower than Young while Teve was a top 100. Let's dial it back on the rankings being end all be all.

actually, watching some of young's highlights, he kind of reminds me of davante after he dropped a few.  remember when buzz recruited him, he was north of 300 +.  by the time he hit the court/game time freshman year, i think he had him at, what? 290's, then his sophomore year, cheezus, he looked almost emaciated
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

WarriorPride68

Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2016, 08:58:29 AM
actually, watching some of young's highlights, he kind of reminds me of davante after he dropped a few.  remember when buzz recruited him, he was north of 300 +.  by the time he hit the court/game time freshman year, i think he had him at, what? 290's, then his sophomore year, cheezus, he looked almost emaciated

Ironically, Kalif used to be massive. He lost a lot of weight recently. Still really needs to improve his conditioning.

A lot of comparisons between the 2

WarriorPride68

Sounds like St.Johns will look to secure a visit for Kostas in the coming weeks after the Nike Hoop Summit wraps up today.

Daniel

Hmmm I thought Big Daddy said he might have a name change this past week.....

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forgetful

Quote from: Daniel on April 09, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
Hmmm I thought Big Daddy said he might have a name change this past week.....

He's overseas said he would hope to be back and have a name change around the 14th.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 09, 2016, 12:43:15 PM
Kostas to visit Florida & St.Johns.

Others involved: Georgia, Purdue, Louisville, Iowa State.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/kostas-antetokounmpo-planning-visits-to-florida-st-johns/171068368?tcid=tw_article_171068368

there sure are quite a few big name programs looking at him.  he may have potential written all over him for a number of reasons.  does he not fit what wojo is looking for or too much of a project, or ...??   i know this has been discussed somewhat here, but seeing these other schools looking at him and if he turns out to be pretty good, that would suck knowing he was right in our backyard. 

kinda like the girl ya dumped in high school turns out to be a pmoy living la vida loca in da mansion-ein'a?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

4everwarriors

Louisville huh? Take along yo raincoat, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

4everwarriors

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 09, 2016, 12:43:15 PM
Kostas to visit Florida & St.Johns.

Others involved: Georgia, Purdue, Louisville, Iowa State.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/kostas-antetokounmpo-planning-visits-to-florida-st-johns/171068368?tcid=tw_article_171068368



Wojo may be missin' da obvious boat on dis one. Problem bein' ya only got so fingers ta stick in da leaky dam, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

I'll take my chances with Sam and Bailey.

GGGG

Scoopers complain when we can't shoot well and about too many slashers and "athletes."  Many of the same Scoopers are now complaining that we aren't seemingly interested in Kostas, who is about as raw a players as there is out there right now.

martyconlonontherun

Kostas only getting scrap minutes in a blow out but buried his only shot (only one I saw at least) which was a deep 2 with his foot on the line.

79Warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
I'll take my chances with Sam and Bailey.

Bailey is 2 years away. Plenty can happen before then.

wadesworld

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Quote from: 79Warrior on April 09, 2016, 04:42:37 PM
Bailey is 2 years away. Plenty can happen before then.

That's exactly the point. We have a SF coming in this year in Hauser and a SF already set up to come in in 2 years. There is very little need for a SF to come in this year who couldn't even stand out in D4 WIAA basketball. Could he wind up being a good college player down the road? Sure. But after 3 years of no postseason, I'm not sure MU's in the position to use a scholarship on a kid who's, at a minimum, 2 years away from contributing. There's a reason he's just now, in April of his senior year, getting any type of interest from high majors. And it's not like he just lacked exposure. He had a top 10, McDonald's AA on his high school team last year. And oh yeah, he's Giannis's brother. If college programs thought he might be able to help them, they'd have been all over him for a long time.

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