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wadesworld

Quote from: MuMark on April 03, 2016, 09:50:43 PM
https://twitter.com/groupstats/status/716815982539456512

Impressive.  Don't know exactly how that works, but Howard was playing up with the same age group as all those other guys were playing in, right?

Blackhat


Herman Cain

Welcome aboard Markus.  I think You made an excellent choice.

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

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muwarrior69

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 03, 2016, 03:46:15 PM
Welcome to MU.

It's a guards game! It's a guards game! It's a guards game!

reinko

Quote from: HoopsterBC on April 03, 2016, 09:51:10 PM
Does it really matter, no, 31st, 35th or 50th, it is meaningless info.   Hauser might be a key component next year if they sign nobody else.  Howard, needs to get stronger
and re-shape his body a little bit.  I have watched him twice, I think Rowsey and him are the same player, the difference is Rowsey will be a senior in age and Howard
is a puppy.  Howard will get his share of time, not sure he is a point guard, but I expect will play that position.

I made a dumb and uninformed comment, proved wrong.  Response?

What does it matter?!?!?!?


GGGG

Quote from: HoopsterBC on April 03, 2016, 09:51:10 PM
Does it really matter, no, 31st, 35th or 50th, it is meaningless info. 


You make the assertion.  You are proven wrong.  You now say it's meaningless.  ::)

Herman Cain

Quote from: bilsu on April 03, 2016, 09:25:17 PM
I would assume Howard is more talented than Rowsey, but Rowsey has two years of division one experience and one redshirt season compared to Markus having three years of high school experience. Rowsey has already adapted to shooting three point shots against college competition. I still remember Anthony Pieper getting his first two outside shots blocked. There is a big difference in the time you need to shoot in high school vs. the time you need in college. I have no doubt Markus will become a very good player, but I think he will have a big adjustment period like most freshmen do. The other question I have is whether Wojo will change his offense to run screens for the shooters he is recruiting? Especially since Howard and Rowsey are under 6'.
I agree with this analysis. Rowsey is a proven player and will contribute immediately. Markus will be an important contributor once he gets accustomed to the pace and physicality of the college game.  We won't know the answer to that until we see him play in the OOC games.
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JakeBarnes

Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 04, 2016, 07:39:14 AM
It's a guards game! It's a guards game! It's a guards game!

Nova agrees.

Really stoked about the shooting options for next year. This team has the potential to be one of the better jump shooting teams I have seen. Haani cutting to the hoop, dishing it out to our bounty of shooters...this could be fun.
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Stretchdeltsig

Agreed.  As Dickie V says, "it's lights out baby!"  The 2016 Warriors may be our best shooting team ever!



barfolomew

Welcome Markus!

Not only did MU fans learn last night who would be using one of the 2016 schollies, we also probably learned who one of our non-con opponents will be.
So who's got the Central Arkansas scouting report?
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wadesworld

Quote from: barfolomew on April 04, 2016, 06:44:57 PM
Welcome Markus!

Not only did MU fans learn last night who would be using one of the 2016 schollies, we also probably learned who one of our non-con opponents will be.
So who's got the Central Arkansas scouting report?

Good call.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: barfolomew on April 04, 2016, 06:44:57 PM
Welcome Markus!

Not only did MU fans learn last night who would be using one of the 2016 schollies, we also probably learned who one of our non-con opponents will be.
So who's got the Central Arkansas scouting report?

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TAMU

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Jay Bee

Quote from: HowardsWorld on April 03, 2016, 09:56:21 PM
Impressive.  Don't know exactly how that works, but Howard was playing up with the same age group as all those other guys were playing in, right?

That's correct. (Not all of those guys were 2016 though.. some were also playing up.)

Howard's upside is a lot better than those who have him outside of the top 30...
The portal is NOT closed.

MUCrew

Quote from: reinko on April 04, 2016, 07:55:12 AM
I made a dumb and uninformed comment, proved wrong.  Response?

What does it matter?!?!?!?



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MU82

Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 04, 2016, 11:32:12 AM
Nova agrees.

Really stoked about the shooting options for next year. This team has the potential to be one of the better jump shooting teams I have seen. Haani cutting to the hoop, dishing it out to our bounty of shooters...this could be fun.

I also am looking forward to watching a team that consistently can make shots, however ...

Let's not kid ourselves about why Villanova is great. Their defense, especially the ball pressure they put on opposing guards, lets them get away with being undersized because it makes it difficult for opponents to feed the post.

Also, Villanova finishes in the lane. I don't have the stats handy, but I believe they outscored a much taller UNC team in the paint.

Naturally, Nova takes care of the ball. Upperclassman guards who know what they are doing. Only 11 TOs per game. Even Brunson, a freshman, had no turnovers in 22 minutes in the biggest game of his young life. It's the culture.

Finally, if Hart and Jenkins are "guards," who will be Marquette's equivalents in the toughness department? Those guys fight opposing bigs pretty darn well.

I want to believe we can be Nova Lite next season and Nova Next in a year or three. Can we?
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Herman Cain

Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2016, 09:41:36 AM
I also am looking forward to watching a team that consistently can make shots, however ...

Let's not kid ourselves about why Villanova is great. Their defense, especially the ball pressure they put on opposing guards, lets them get away with being undersized because it makes it difficult for opponents to feed the post.

Also, Villanova finishes in the lane. I don't have the stats handy, but I believe they outscored a much taller UNC team in the paint.

Naturally, Nova takes care of the ball. Upperclassman guards who know what they are doing. Only 11 TOs per game. Even Brunson, a freshman, had no turnovers in 22 minutes in the biggest game of his young life. It's the culture.

Finally, if Hart and Jenkins are "guards," who will be Marquette's equivalents in the toughness department? Those guys fight opposing bigs pretty darn well.

I want to believe we can be Nova Lite next season and Nova Next in a year or three. Can we?
Villanova fought for the hard rebounds the entire tournament. The announcers were amazed when UNC got one toward the end.
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RushmoreAcademy

Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2016, 09:41:36 AM
I also am looking forward to watching a team that consistently can make shots, however ...

Let's not kid ourselves about why Villanova is great. Their defense, especially the ball pressure they put on opposing guards, lets them get away with being undersized because it makes it difficult for opponents to feed the post.

Also, Villanova finishes in the lane. I don't have the stats handy, but I believe they outscored a much taller UNC team in the paint.

Naturally, Nova takes care of the ball. Upperclassman guards who know what they are doing. Only 11 TOs per game. Even Brunson, a freshman, had no turnovers in 22 minutes in the biggest game of his young life. It's the culture.

Finally, if Hart and Jenkins are "guards," who will be Marquette's equivalents in the toughness department? Those guys fight opposing bigs pretty darn well.

I want to believe we can be Nova Lite next season and Nova Next in a year or three. Can we?

Comparisons to the national champs will generally look unfavorable.  One step at a time and I think we are headed in the right direction at least.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on April 05, 2016, 09:41:36 AM
I also am looking forward to watching a team that consistently can make shots, however ...

Let's not kid ourselves about why Villanova is great. Their defense, especially the ball pressure they put on opposing guards, lets them get away with being undersized because it makes it difficult for opponents to feed the post.

Also, Villanova finishes in the lane. I don't have the stats handy, but I believe they outscored a much taller UNC team in the paint.

Naturally, Nova takes care of the ball. Upperclassman guards who know what they are doing. Only 11 TOs per game. Even Brunson, a freshman, had no turnovers in 22 minutes in the biggest game of his young life. It's the culture.

Finally, if Hart and Jenkins are "guards," who will be Marquette's equivalents in the toughness department? Those guys fight opposing bigs pretty darn well.

I want to believe we can be Nova Lite next season and Nova Next in a year or three. Can we?

Other than Henry (who is gowne) who on this year's MU team would have made Nova's 8 man rotation? Maybe Luke. We're closer to DePaul right now than to Villanova.

jsglow

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 05, 2016, 11:20:38 AM
Other than Henry (who is gowne) who on this year's MU team would have made Nova's 8 man rotation? Maybe Luke. We're closer to DePaul right now than to Villanova.

But we're way better than Nova from 4 years ago.

Galway Eagle

I agree we aren't close to Nova right now but still our rebuilding progression has been remarkably similar to Novas.
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Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on April 05, 2016, 11:42:10 AM
I agree we aren't close to Nova right now but still our rebuilding progression has been remarkably similar to Novas.

If by similar you mean going from terrible to bad with some hope -  to hopefully back in the tourney next year.  I am excited about the future and hope it continues to go in the right direction - but our trajectory so far can be compared to millions of mediocre teams as easily as it can be compared to a national champ.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 05, 2016, 11:55:45 AM
If by similar you mean going from terrible to bad with some hope -  to hopefully back in the tourney next year.  I am excited about the future and hope it continues to go in the right direction - but our trajectory so far can be compared to millions of mediocre teams as easily as it can be compared to a national champ.

True but all those teams don't play in our same conference where there could actually be a valid comparison. I'm not saying next year were going from 13 wins to 20 wins to 29 wins to 30 wins to 35 wins like nova did in five years. But the point is were on a similar track in the first two years so it gives me hope that we'll hit a solid 23 or 24 next year. Heck we were about one collective minute of bad play from 23 this year.
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bilsu

Quote from: jsglow on April 05, 2016, 11:32:56 AM
But we're way better than Nova from 4 years ago.
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I do not necessarily agree with this.  We had a better record this year than they did 4 years age, but I expect their schedule was much tougher.

keefe

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on April 05, 2016, 11:42:10 AM
I agree we aren't close to Nova right now but still our rebuilding progression has been remarkably similar to Novas.

Well, that would suggest we end up as National Champs...


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