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I have two observations about Mother Theresa.

1. She undoubtedly did a lot of good in this world and should be praised for that.

2. She had a good PR team.

jficke13

#2
I can't see any comments?

Edit: Nevermind, I'm blind.

keefe

Reading through those comments is mind boggling.

I love people who throw stones at those who are trying to make a difference as they sit squarely on their over-fed asses eating cheetos.





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GGGG

Quote from: keefe on March 15, 2016, 11:50:46 AM
Reading through those comments is mind boggling.

I love people who throw stones at those who are trying to make a difference as they sit squarely on their over-fed asses eating cheetos.



Yep.  Mother Thresa wasn't perfect.  I doubt she claimed to be. 


Benny B

Quote from: keefe on March 15, 2016, 11:50:46 AM
Reading through those comments is mind boggling.

I love people who throw stones at those who are trying to make a difference as they sit squarely on their over-fed asses eating cheetos.

This does nothing more than perpetuate my belief that most of these comments come from a bunch of recent college grads sitting is a cube farm who are being paid minimum wage to scour the net and comment in accordance with their client's wishes.  I honestly can't believe that so many people would waste this kind of time spewing hatred anonymously for no benefit (other than the joy of an occasional "+1" and kudos from your like-minded brethren).

BTW - Since 10/6/09, I have logged 52 days, 21 hours and 9 minutes on Scoop.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Benny B

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 15, 2016, 11:57:30 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa

Pretty much the same framework for every "Criticisms of _________" article on Wikipedia.  IOW, you can find praise and criticism of anyone on the interwebs... but it's all based on subjective opinions, and therefore, inherently biased.  What's praise to one is criticism to another. 

But this one is unique in that one criticism listed is actually the "response to criticism."  When one uses another's defense against criticism as a cyclical argument for criticism, doesn't that diminish the credibility of the critic?

Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

real chili 83

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Ok, I got the one-up of the day on Scoop.

I know a guy who was a close personal friend of Mother Teresa's.  She used to baby sit him when he was a yoot in India.  He's got a ton of pictures with them together in his home.

I think he'd disagree with the comments on NPR.

And no, I don't reveal my sources.   ;)

Henry Sugar

#9
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 15, 2016, 11:18:25 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/15/470495530/pope-francis-sets-canonization-date-for-mother-teresa-sept-4

I have no words.

The actual NPR article had nothing other than facts about Mother Teresa and the other four candidates for sainthood.

The comments section of any large website is inevitably going to be a cesspool.
A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

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Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: keefe on March 15, 2016, 11:50:46 AM
Reading through those comments is mind boggling.

I love people who throw stones at those who are trying to make a difference as they sit squarely on their over-fed asses eating cheetos.

Read some of the comments from a few public figures that recently died in the last 4 weeks....mind boggling doesn't even begin to cut it.

keefe

Quote from: Benny B on March 15, 2016, 12:29:29 PM
Pretty much the same framework for every "Criticisms of _________" article on Wikipedia.  IOW, you can find praise and criticism of anyone on the interwebs... but it's all based on subjective opinions, and therefore, inherently biased.  What's praise to one is criticism to another. 

But this one is unique in that one criticism listed is actually the "response to criticism."  When one uses another's defense against criticism as a cyclical argument for criticism, doesn't that diminish the credibility of the critic?

Who, in Christ's name, has a problem with the work of Mother Teresa caring for the poorest of the poor in the slums of Kolkata?

I love people who criticize those who actually try to make a difference but who have never done anything themselves.

It reminds me of people who talk about how much money they make or give daily updates of their European holiday then decry the plight of refugees in Somalia while never having lifted a finger or even a check book to help them out.

The irony is stunning and incredibly unbecoming of anyone who actually was educated by the Jesuits.

   


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buckchuckler

Quote from: keefe on March 15, 2016, 10:41:43 PM

The irony is stunning and incredibly unbecoming of anyone who actually was educated by the Jesuits.



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GGGG

Quote from: keefe on March 15, 2016, 10:41:43 PM
Who, in Christ's name, has a problem with the work of Mother Teresa caring for the poorest of the poor in the slums of Kolkata?

I love people who criticize those who actually try to make a difference but who have never done anything themselves.

It reminds me of people who talk about how much money they make or give daily updates of their European holiday then decry the plight of refugees in Somalia while never having lifted a finger or even a check book to help them out.

The irony is stunning and incredibly unbecoming of anyone who actually was educated by the Jesuits.   


By and large I agree with you, but she was a stubborn woman.  Her stubbornness is one of the reason she was successful, but it also prevented her from accepting new ideas about how she could improve her organization when they were brought to her.

She was human.  Everyone has flaws.  No reason not to acknowledge that.

LloydsLegs

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 15, 2016, 11:54:25 AM

Yep.  Mother Thresa wasn't perfect.  I doubt she claimed to be.

What I most appreciate about her is the revelation after her death of her personal faith journey and struggles (in the form of letters w her bishop, I believe). She described her doubts in very dark terms, and is an example for anyone who has doubts - if she could struggle w her faith and have doubts, I guess I can too.  She was so very human.

keefe

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 16, 2016, 09:02:39 AM

By and large I agree with you, but she was a stubborn woman.  Her stubbornness is one of the reason she was successful, but it also prevented her from accepting new ideas about how she could improve her organization when they were brought to her.

She was human.  Everyone has flaws.  No reason not to acknowledge that.

Was she fallible? Of course. Only Christ could walk on water and even that is more fable than fact.

But she did God's work in a way no one else dared. And she inspired others to do the same. I admire people who not only give a sh1t but actually do something about it. There is a lot of talk but that doesn't actually help make things better.

But what is really admirable about Teresa is that in her heart she knew that she would never, ever eliminate the pain, suffering, and sorrow she devoted her life to address. But she tried anyway. Therein lies the magnificence of her work.


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keefe

Quote from: LloydsLegs on March 16, 2016, 09:30:34 AM
What I most appreciate about her is the revelation after her death of her personal faith journey and struggles (in the form of letters w her bishop, I believe). She described her doubts in very dark terms, and is an example for anyone who has doubts - if she could struggle w her faith and have doubts, I guess I can too.  She was so very human.

I would highly recommend Merton's Seven Storey Mountain.

Faith is uncertain, off-kilter, and imprecise. Anyone who claims otherwise is deluding themselves which only serves to undermine the essence of true faith. Only through a genuine dialectical process can one find affirmation.



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LloydsLegs

Quote from: keefe on March 16, 2016, 11:03:59 AM
I would highly recommend Merton's Seven Storey Mountain.

Faith is uncertain, off-kilter, and imprecise. Anyone who claims otherwise is deluding themselves which only serves to undermine the essence of true faith. Only through a genuine dialectical process can one find affirmation.

One of the best-could not agree more.

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