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wadesworld

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 17, 2016, 11:14:04 AM
Anything specific? Or they've just seen enough?


I've often thought that it'd be interesting to see a school like UWM hire a coach that implements a tamer version of the Grinnell System. UWM is never going to be a big draw  or a power program, so why not go against convention and bring in some excitement and garner some attention? Recruit some athletes, run-and-gun, shoot 3s, attack the basket, press, etc. That would almost definitely appeal to a lot of mid/low major recruits and would likely result in an attendance boost and some national recognition. Sure, it'd be a touch gimmicky but who cares?

UWM was a big draw (by Horizon League standards, at least) when Bruce Pearl was there.  Just accept cheating and take your punishment when you get caught if you're UWM.

wadesworld

Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 18, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
I would put Buzz staying at VT but getting more money as #1. Buzz pulled this with Marquette every year. Float his name out there to open jobs and us it as leverage for more money.

It was more about gaining more power at MU than it was about the money for him.

Pakuni

Looks like it's official.
Drew could have done better.

Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
Vandy has agreed with Valpo's Bryce Drew to a 6-year deal, sources told ESPN.

KampusFoods

Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2016, 01:22:14 PM
Looks like it's official.
Drew could have done better.

Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
Vandy has agreed with Valpo's Bryce Drew to a 6-year deal, sources told ESPN.

Not sure he could have done much better. Not exactly big time openings this season. Pitt and Georgia Tech are the only ones that MAYBE were better opportunities.

Pakuni

Quote from: RKMU123 on April 05, 2016, 01:35:24 PM
Not sure he could have done much better. Not exactly big time openings this season. Pitt and Georgia Tech are the only ones that MAYBE were better opportunities.

Right, but he didn't have to leave Valpo this year. He could have stayed there for another 20+ win season and had an opportunity next year at a school that cares/invests far more in its athletic programs, and where he would have been less hamstrung by academics.

GGGG

Or he could have slipped back to a 17 win season and finished 3rd in the Horizon for a couple years. 

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 05, 2016, 01:49:49 PM
Or he could have slipped back to a 17 win season and finished 3rd in the Horizon for a couple years.

Well, I guess anything is possible.
But given that he'd have 5 of his top 7 back next year and hasn't had fewer than 18 wins in a season (and has averaged 25 wins/year),  I like his chances on winning 20+ again better than having his career-worst year.

VegasWarrior77

What?

Connor Letourneau
‏@Con_Chron
BREAKING: @CalMensBBall's Cuonzo Martin is a prime target for Georgia Tech's head-coaching vacancy, per sources. http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Cal-s-Cuonzo-Martin-emerges-as-prime-target-for-7232608.php?t=a2d96eda6c&cmpid=twitter-premium ...
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

Groin_pull

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 06, 2016, 04:56:03 PM
What?

Connor Letourneau
‏@Con_Chron
BREAKING: @CalMensBBall's Cuonzo Martin is a prime target for Georgia Tech's head-coaching vacancy, per sources. http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Cal-s-Cuonzo-Martin-emerges-as-prime-target-for-7232608.php?t=a2d96eda6c&cmpid=twitter-premium ...

Since the sex harassment controversy, Martin is on very thin ice in Berkeley. He must realize this fact and is making plans for when UC shows him the door. Also, doesn't help that his team seriously underperformed this season.

Goatherder

Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2016, 01:38:13 PM
Right, but he didn't have to leave Valpo this year. He could have stayed there for another 20+ win season and had an opportunity next year at a school that cares/invests far more in its athletic programs, and where he would have been less hamstrung by academics.

Maybe that is part of what he wants.  Less pressure at Vandy than many places.  He would have academic requirements at Ga. Tech as well. 

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2016, 01:38:13 PM
Right, but he didn't have to leave Valpo this year. He could have stayed there for another 20+ win season and had an opportunity next year at a school that cares/invests far more in its athletic programs, and where he would have been less hamstrung by academics.

Agree about the academic limits, but what indication do you have that Vandy doesn't invest in its programs?  As a private school, they don't disclose coaches' salaries, but the Tennesseean recently reported that Stallings' income was just over $2.1 million in 2013 (per tax records).  And even before Stallings, Vandy usually competed pretty well in SEC hoops.

VegasWarrior77

Ironic...

Gary Parrish ‏@GaryParrishCBS  19m19 minutes ago
Gary Parrish Retweeted Connor Letourneau
FYI: The same person who handled the search that brought Cuonzo Martin to Cal is now handling Georgia Tech's search.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

Groin_pull

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 06, 2016, 05:57:52 PM
Ironic...

Gary Parrish ‏@GaryParrishCBS  19m19 minutes ago
Gary Parrish Retweeted Connor Letourneau
FYI: The same person who handled the search that brought Cuonzo Martin to Cal is now handling Georgia Tech's search.

UC wants him gone.

Cooby Snacks

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 06, 2016, 05:57:52 PM
Ironic...

Gary Parrish ‏@GaryParrishCBS  19m19 minutes ago
Gary Parrish Retweeted Connor Letourneau
FYI: The same person who handled the search that brought Cuonzo Martin to Cal is now handling Georgia Tech's search.

Heading these search committees sounds like real nice work if you can get it.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Groin_pull on April 06, 2016, 05:00:40 PM
Since the sex harassment controversy, Martin is on very thin ice in Berkeley. He must realize this fact and is making plans for when UC shows him the door. Also, doesn't help that his team seriously underperformed this season.

Man, getting a five seed after your team was ranked outside the top 100 the season before is unnderperforming? Rough crowd
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Herman Cain

Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2016, 01:38:13 PM
Right, but he didn't have to leave Valpo this year. He could have stayed there for another 20+ win season and had an opportunity next year at a school that cares/invests far more in its athletic programs, and where he would have been less hamstrung by academics.
Vanderbilt has very competitive athletics and has a  beautiful campus with lots of rich alumni. I think Drew will be very successful there.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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shoothoops

Bryce Drew's Vanderbilt contract would have ranked 14th nationally this past season.  I wouldn't sleep on Vandy's commitment to successful, competitive athletics these days. 

warriorchick

Quote from: shoothoops on April 07, 2016, 09:24:44 AM
Bryce Drew's Vanderbilt contract would have ranked 14th nationally this past season.  I wouldn't sleep on Vandy's commitment to successful, competitive athletics these days.

What exactly does that mean?

Doesn't that put him in the top 4% among D1 coaches?  Not too shabby for a guy who is unproven as a high major coach.
Have some patience, FFS.

shoothoops

warriorchick,

Earlier in this thread some questioned Vanderbilt's commitment to successful athletics. Others, including myself followed up pointing out that Vandy is committed to successful athletics.  Zeppos, Williams etc...have created a positive athletic environment there.  Their philosophy and strategy is to hire long term fits as opposed to someone that will come in and light it up for 3-5 years and move on to a larger state school etc...


GGGG


warriorchick

Quote from: shoothoops on April 07, 2016, 10:52:49 AM
warriorchick,

Earlier in this thread some questioned Vanderbilt's commitment to successful athletics. Others, including myself followed up pointing out that Vandy is committed to successful athletics.  Zeppos, Williams etc...have created a positive athletic environment there.  Their philosophy and strategy is to hire long term fits as opposed to someone that will come in and light it up for 3-5 years and move on to a larger state school etc...

I agree...I just found your wording a bit confusing (but it could be just me).  Thanks for clarifying.
Have some patience, FFS.

VegasWarrior77

Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN  7m7 minutes ago
Valparaiso will hire assistant Matt Lottich to replace Bryce Drew, sources told ESPN.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

forgetful

Quote from: Groin_pull on April 06, 2016, 06:03:26 PM
UC wants him gone.

Agreed, would be kind of shocked if he survives this at UC.

Jay Bee

Quote from: shoothoops on April 07, 2016, 09:24:44 AM
Bryce Drew's Vanderbilt contract would have ranked 14th nationally this past season.  I wouldn't sleep on Vandy's commitment to successful, competitive athletics these days.

"ranked 14th nationally" means what? Sounds wrong in any context.
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