Two year honeymoon is over

[jt92]

The seat wojo was given by the MU brain trust has gotten a little warmer.  Of course his job is not in trouble because after all he did come from Duke.  If you recall the same MU brain trust mentioned Duke so much when he was hired that for a second I thought my almamater had moved to Durham. 

Three years no post season.  Granted one year was a spiteful Buzz who tanked the season to get back at an administration that only gave him 2 mil per year.  But back to my point.  The thought that a trip to next year's nit would be an improvement for mu irks me to no end. The interest in the program is deflating at a rate that would make tom Brady jealous.  Will they surprise us next year?  How about a surprise win against butler or Xavier?  Exactly... Not going to happen.  Living in Connecticut and having to witness mediocre uconn teams win post season games one after another in unbelievable fashions makes me want to believe that it can happen to our team.  But it won't.  Good night.  Wake me up in a few years when mu decides to play in the CIT tournament!  Oh and who am I kidding wojo just got an extension so turn the temp down on the seat.  After all he went to Duke!!!!

[rocky_warrior]

Gee, that rant was worth it's own thread.  What, you couldn't have just added "+1" to one of the other bitter betty rants?

[ecompt]

I know how you feel and can't totally blame you. The extension was Wojo was a joke. But it's too early to pull the plug and call the hire a mistake. I don't believe Wojo is a good game coach and don't like the fact he has no veteran assistants to tell him when he is wrong. But this team was better than last year's. If there is no postseason bid next year and attendance keeps falling (which it almost certainly will) then it may be time to rethink things.

[hoops12]

There are so many whining babies on this board. Wojo's had one year to bring in talent and it was a top tier level recruiting year. He is on year two. The program is moving forward and Wojo is also doing it right. He's bringing in quality players, but also quality young men that have high character. In time we will be a consistent NCAA team under his direction. Additionally, MU made a good decision in upping his contract. He is not just a game coach. He is creating a culture for the program and for the university. Winning is a priority, but it's not the only thing. In time the whiners will be silenced. Then they will claim they were always MU "fans". Wojo is a winner, and several posters on this board are just the opposite.

[jt92]

Yes it does warrant its own post because I'm frustrated.  I want to vent.  I keep quiet all year and  let things happen and then on selection Sunday get pissed off because mu is nowhere near being included in the dance.  That's all.  So I deserve my own thread instead of seeing chicos every five seconds.

[vacinator]

I think he has one more honeymoon year.  Looking at the roster next year without HE its hard to expect an NCAA berth. 

[brandx]

There are so many whining babies on this board. Wojo's had one year to bring in talent and it was a top tier level recruiting year. He is on year two. The program is moving forward and Wojo is also doing it right. He's bringing in quality players, but also quality young men that have high character. In time we will be a consistent NCAA team under his direction. Additionally, MU made a good decision in upping his contract. He is not just a game coach. He is creating a culture for the program and for the university. Winning is a priority, but it's not the only thing. In time the whiners will be silenced. Then they will claim they were always MU "fans". Wojo is a winner, and several posters on this board are just the opposite.

+1000

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I think he has one more honeymoon year.  Looking at the roster next year without HE its hard to expect an NCAA berth.

Plenty of time to do work on the roster though.

[Johnny B]

"Be patient". It's been 3 dam years! people are done with this program being just utter disappointment.it's scary really..ticket sales plumitting.. Looking like 4 straight years no ncaas. People/fans start getting frustrated and after nothing changes they just stop caring. This program is heading down and it's just sad really. we're losing are identity. No NCAA next year. Fire Steve.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think he has one more honeymoon year.  Looking at the roster next year without HE its hard to expect an NCAA berth.

Assuming no one besides Henry leaves, I am expecting an NCAA berth.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yes it does warrant its own post because I'm frustrated.  I want to vent.  I keep quiet all year and  let things happen and then on selection Sunday get pissed off because mu is nowhere near being included in the dance.  That's all.  So I deserve my own thread instead of seeing chicos every five seconds.

Put me on ignore....very simple.   But it's good to see you are frustrated.

As for the extension, you basically have to do it if you want kids to think you're going to be around. 

My hope is we can link this thread and a few others in the next few years and a lot of people will say "wow, gave up on him way too early".   But, maybe we can't.   End of the day, he just finished his second year, and his second year was a lot better than the first year.  He's had one recruiting class.  I honestly can't figure out how you guys can judge based on one recruiting class...I really can't....but hey, you're frustrated.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

"Be patient". It's been 3 dam years! people are done with this program being just utter disappointment.it's scary really..ticket sales plumitting.. Looking like 4 straight years no ncaas. People/fans start getting frustrated and after nothing changes they just stop caring. This program is heading down and it's just sad really. we're losing are identity. No NCAA next year. Fire Steve.

My God....3 dam <sic> years?  Plumitting <sic> you say?   we're losing are <sic> identity.   


Fire your teachers you had growing up

[ChicosBailBonds]

There are so many whining babies on this board. Wojo's had one year to bring in talent and it was a top tier level recruiting year. He is on year two. The program is moving forward and Wojo is also doing it right. He's bringing in quality players, but also quality young men that have high character. In time we will be a consistent NCAA team under his direction. Additionally, MU made a good decision in upping his contract. He is not just a game coach. He is creating a culture for the program and for the university. Winning is a priority, but it's not the only thing. In time the whiners will be silenced. Then they will claim they were always MU "fans". Wojo is a winner, and several posters on this board are just the opposite.

+1...at least that's my hope.

[Johnny B]

My God....3 dam <sic> years?  Plumitting <sic> you say?   we're losing are <sic> identity.   


Fire your teachers you had growing up

Ugh....
I'm typing to get the point across.. Not to win a grammar contest... but thanks.. anyways keep being happy with this great program missing out year after year.. People that are so ok with this have their heads up their asses..
Oh and considering I'm a student at MU I'll be sure to let my professors know they should be fired..

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Ugh....
I'm typing to get the point across.. Not to win a grammar contest... but thanks.. anyways keep being happy with this great program missing out year after year.. People that are so ok with this have their heads up their asses..
Oh and considering I'm a student at MU I'll be sure to let my professors know they should be fired..

Were not ok with it. We just understand that there's nothing more that can be done. Wojo was given a crap sandwich to start with. He brought in one class and got us our first 20 win season since the Elite 8 year. I expect with 2 classes he'll do even more.

[vacinator]

Plenty of time to do work on the roster though.

Agree 100%.  MU needs to get stronger!  Hopefully Wojo got that message.

[Johnny B]

Were not ok with it. We just understand that there's nothing more that can be done. Wojo was given a crap sandwich to start with. He brought in one class and got us our first 20 win season since the Elite 8 year. I expect with 2 classes he'll do even more.

it's just getting difficult staying interested and caring. We're losing are best player and bringing in one decent player next year. I just don't see where this gets much better but we'll see Ryan.

[ChicosBailBonds]

it's just getting difficult staying interested and caring. We're losing are best player and bringing in one decent player next year. I just don't see where this gets much better but we'll see Ryan.

Freshmen become sophomores....listen to MU's greatest coach....heed his words.   

Look at the teams over the years that lost their best player and came back stronger, more balanced.  It happens.  Will it for MU?  I don't know, but chin up fellas.  If this year was as bad as last year, I would agree, but it wasn't. 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Four things need to happen for MU to make the tourney next year. JJJ needs to have a Vander type junior year, Haanif needs to be a legitimate 2nd  or even 1st option on offense Luke needs to stay out of foul trouble and Traci need to be like senior year Cadougan.

[jsglow]

Four things need to happen for MU to make the tourney next year. JJJ needs to have a Vander type junior year, Haanif needs to be a legitimate 2nd  or even 1st option on offense Luke needs to stay out of foul trouble and Traci need to be like senior year Cadougan.

I'll add one Chitown.  Assuming HE leaves, we need somebody who can rebound and play D at the #4.  I don't think I see that guy on the roster right now.  I was amused in that other thread when somebody suggested Steve assuming he graduates.  But a 'STjr type' would fit the bill just fine.

We're light years ahead of last year at this same point in time.  Assuming nothing crazy happens, we've got 4 legitimate starters returning, 2 very experienced 6th and 7th men, 2-3 respectable returning bench guys behind that, and already two newcomers (I'm including Rowsey) who will be expected to contribute with more certainly on the way.  Let's see what Wojo pulls off by May.  We'll know a lot more by then.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I was not totally on board when they hired Wojo, but I am now. I have no real reason to be other than just a feeling. Somebody above mentioned the word "winner" and I think that's as good an explanation as any. He's got something and I can't wait to see it manifest itself.

[RushmoreAcademy]

So I deserve my own thread

Come on now. Let's just stick to facts,  please.

[CAGASS24]

I was not totally on board when they hired Wojo, but I am now. I have no real reason to be other than just a feeling. Somebody above mentioned the word "winner" and I think that's as good an explanation as any. He's got something and I can't wait to see it manifest itself.

agree 1000 - frankly - as long as the admin and players are behind a coach - all our job is as fans is to root like hell for the team - it makes me sick when i see other programs who have coaches that are loved by the admin and team and yet there is this public outcry over their removal that forces a change - in general i feel like that sets programs behind as is seems to make it intrinsically harder for the next person to succeed given the environment -

it is clear the admin and players really support Wojo - as long as he keeps bringing in quality players we all need to shut our damn mouths and let him do his job

[mumagz84]

I look for Wojo, or almost any coach, to have four years and show continued improvement with the chance at bringing in and coaching their own recruits.  Granted, MU did not reach the postseason this year, but this team was better than last year.  Although HE will be gone, let's see how this team progresses over the next couple years before hauling out the pitchforks.

[MU82]

People that are so ok with this have their heads up their asses.

Or maybe they have lives. There's a whole beautiful world out there besides Marquette basketball. I'd highly recommend you live it! Maybe, I don't know, get with a woman or whatever your choice of pleasure might be.

Besides, even if I weren't "OK with this" -- although I am, because it's far too early in Wojo's regime to make a real judgment -- I try not to get bent out of shape about what I can't control.

But hey, I was a kid once, too, and I used to rant and rave when something pissed me off.

Of course, I had to do my ranting and raving by semaphore flags or by rock and chisel.