Vegas 16 Article

[VegasWarrior77]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/ron-kantowski/vegas-16-basketball-tournament-needs-few-good-teams

"Teams on his and George Raveling's radar — the basketball Hall of Famer also is on the committee — include Florida State, Arkansas, Brigham Young, Oakland, Albany and perhaps a couple of Mountain West teams (but not UNLV)."

[wildbillsb]

I think we all love Marquette basketball but there are things one does for pride, brand equity, precedent, reputation.

Marquette cheapens itself by participating in things like the Vegas Outsiders, CBI, et al.

Keeping one's dignity is far more important than getting whatever contrived benefit one rationalizes from playing in an also-ran tournament.

Certainly can't disagree with your rationale, flyboy, but, man, I'm in SoCal until the end of April, and I'd love to sing "Ring Out, Ahoya" at least once this season.  Pax, brother.

[GGGG]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/ron-kantowski/vegas-16-basketball-tournament-needs-few-good-teams

Wow that's a great article!!!!

Wonder why the guy who started the thread couldn't find it???

Ooops!!!!

[Benny B]

Wow that's a great article!!!!

Wonder why the guy who started the thread couldn't find it???

Ooops!!!!

Yeah... that guy is a few french fries short of a happy meal, but we typically don't say anything about it.

[bilsu]

Marquette cheapens itself by participating in things like the Vegas Outsiders, CBI, et al.

Keeping one's dignity is far more important than getting whatever contrived benefit one rationalizes from playing in an also-ran tournament.

I think MU would cheapen itself more by turning down a bid. Only losers turn down an opportunity to compete.

[bilsu]

I wonder how much it cost MU for the team to go to Europe to get some experience last summer? I suspect this would be a drop in the bucket compared to that.

[Benny B]

I think MU would cheapen itself more by turning down a bid. Only losers turn down an opportunity to compete.

Would you rather be the loser that turned down the opportunity to compete or the loser that lost to Northern Arizona University in the first round?

[keefe]

Certainly can't disagree with your rationale, flyboy, but, man, I'm in SoCal until the end of April, and I'd love to sing "Ring Out, Ahoya" at least once this season.  Pax, brother.

I have to admit that the opportunity to see Ellenson in Baby Blues one more time is making my knees buckle.

I think he is going to be something special in the bigs. I would love for him to go out a winner. That last game against Xavier was no last race for a thoroughbred.

[SuddenSam]

Vega$ could be a welcome season ender, especially if they are able to line up teams such as MU and other decent brands out of the little dance

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Love to see that matchup. If we want to play him while he's at Va Tech, we'll probably have to do it this year anyway...

Where do you think he's going?

[Dr. Blackheart]

Do they feature a loser's bracket?

[Litehouse]

Where do you think he's going?

There have been a couple articles speculating about Oklahoma State or TCU.

[jsglow]

You ever been to Vegas Easter weekend? I can assure you it is not one of slowest weekends of the year. Was there two years ago. Could barely walk down the street. Was very surprising, but various cabbies, hotel clerks etc said that it is a very popular weekend with folks from Nearby places like LA, etc., so not one of the slowest, but apparently one of the busier times.

That really surprises me.  Remember, I own a home in Vegas so I'm there a lot and have a much better feel for the town than the average tourist.  Do note that it always looks crowded on the Strip but crowded is a relative term.

[jsglow]

A one-price, package deal may be a great thing for a travel agency to sell to an elderly couple who thinks the internet is the inside lining of swim trunks, but tournament promoters are not travel agents and college athletic departments are not tourists.  I would bet that MU's athletic department probably has more travel-related "hotline" numbers on speed dial than Fox World Travel knows about, so a package deal means nothing to them.  Heck, if that were the case, I can tell you who won't be in the tournament... UNLV.  Why would they foot a $50,000 entry fee that includes travel/rooms they don't need (or already have)?  Likewise, would Cal State Fullerton want to pay $50,000 for a puddle jump knowing that Maine is paying the exact same fee to fly cross-country?

Sure, everything in Vegas is negotiable, but that one is on page two of the Vegas rulebook.  Rule #1 is "the house always wins."  Charging $50k and including travel would be like having a slot machine that stops on CAR-CAR-CAR-CAR-CAR and letting the winner pick what kind of car she wants... $50,000 all-in just ain't going to fly (literally and figuratively).

What you're not appreciating is the legwork that was put in by the committee months ago.

[brewcity77]

Where do you think he's going?

Not sure yet, but that national anthem story from November sure resurfaced quick this month. Very reminiscent of how the Buzz's Bunch story circulated right before he left Marquette.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

There have been a couple articles speculating about Oklahoma State or TCU.

Interesting, tho jumping to TCU would be a silly move IMO.

[keefe]

Not sure yet, but that national anthem story from November sure resurfaced quick this month. Very reminiscent of how the Buzz's Bunch story circulated right before he left Marquette.

The plot thickens, y'all

[GGGG]

Interesting, tho jumping to TCU would be a silly move IMO.

TCU is a better long-term job than VPI.  Big 12 school right in the DFW area.  Close to a lot of good recruits.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

TCU is a better long-term job than VPI.  Big 12 school right in the DFW area.  Close to a lot of good recruits.

Yah, but OK state is a better job, and if Buzz continues to build at Virginia Tech he'll get better opportunities than TCU. But maybe he's ready to get back to Texas.

[keefe]

$500!

$500! I hear that's the going rate for some real cracker jack legal advice

[Benny B]

$250,000

That's what Loyola spent on their CBI appearance last year: $250,000

Maybe I underestimated just how much of a cash cow these tourneys are.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/panthers/no-postseason-for-uwm-mens-basketball-team-hints-at-bigger-story-b99686477z1-371896421.html

[VegasWarrior77]

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