2016-17 Schedule

[JakeBarnes]

Officially? Link?

https://twitter.com/Matt_Velazquez/status/719579209719353344

[PGsHeroes32]

Bummer no Gavitt game. Really want a showdown with Minny.

But the Vandy game is a great get!

Looks like a better schedule then last year so that's great

[brewcity77]

Bummer no Gavitt game. Really want a showdown with Minny.

But the Vandy game is a great get!

Looks like a better schedule then last year so that's great

It all comes down to the cupcake games, though for the STHs, having another decent home game would probably also be nice. Not expecting that, though. Five high majors and two cupcakes from a pool of four means there are only 6 left to schedule, guessing those will be buy games, even though I'm hoping for 5 buys and one high major H/H starting at the BC.

[Herman Cain]

Now that we have the makings of a good schedule, we need to actually win the games.

[muwarrior69]

Is there a reason we don't schedule OOC games in January or February? Wasn't there a break in the Conference schedule last season where we didn't play for a week?

[Coleman]

Is there a reason we don't schedule OOC games in January or February? Wasn't there a break in the Conference schedule last season where we didn't play for a week?

I'm pretty sure the only break in the schedule is around Finals and the Holidays, where the players are studying or home with family for Christmas.

That is before the start of the conference schedule.

[PGsHeroes32]

It all comes down to the cupcake games, though for the STHs, having another decent home game would probably also be nice. Not expecting that, though. Five high majors and two cupcakes from a pool of four means there are only 6 left to schedule, guessing those will be buy games, even though I'm hoping for 5 buys and one high major H/H starting at the BC.

Yeah would be nice to get one more with a home game. That would be a killer schedule playing 6 resume builders.

How much is Vandy losing? I know they have NBA prospects everywhere but were a letdown. Only saw Baldwin leaving. What about the 7 footer?

Pitt will be a real bitch. Michigan returns talent but they don't kill with size so they are a good match up. SMU I know loses some guys.

Utah is very beatable too bad it's at their place.

[KampusFoods]

Yeah would be nice to get one more with a home game. That would be a killer schedule playing 6 resume builders.

How much is Vandy losing? I know they have NBA prospects everywhere but were a letdown. Only saw Baldwin leaving. What about the 7 footer?

Pitt will be a real bitch. Michigan returns talent but they don't kill with size so they are a good match up. SMU I know loses some guys.

Utah is very beatable too bad it's at their place.

Damian Jones has not declared yet but he is expected to and is being projected as a first round pick by many. Other than him and Baldwin, they return the rest of the contributors. I expect it to be a good matchup.

[brewcity77]

Damian Jones has not declared yet but he is expected to and is being projected as a first round pick by many. Other than him and Baldwin, they return the rest of the contributors. I expect it to be a good matchup.

Depends on your perspective...Jones did say he was leaving for the NBA after this year all the way back in October, though his stock seems to have slipped since.

[mu03eng]

Yeah would be nice to get one more with a home game. That would be a killer schedule playing 6 resume builders.

How much is Vandy losing? I know they have NBA prospects everywhere but were a letdown. Only saw Baldwin leaving. What about the 7 footer?

Pitt will be a real bitch. Michigan returns talent but they don't kill with size so they are a good match up. SMU I know loses some guys.

Utah is very beatable too bad it's at their place.

Assuming the 6 remaining home games (almost assuredly all buy games) are against teams in the 150-260 range I'm very comfortable with the schedule. As a STH it kind of sucks to have all those name games on the road/neutral but I get it, STH, regardless of university get screwed on the non-con schedule.

With all those assumptions, really need to go 9-3 at a minimum to be in good position for the conference season.

[brewcity77]

Is there a reason we don't schedule OOC games in January or February? Wasn't there a break in the Conference schedule last season where we didn't play for a week?

Very few teams do because they are usually difficult to arrange. All the conferences are focusing on league games in those months, so you are working around figuring out not just what your league will do but what others will do. We did have the Stetson game this past season, and you do usually have a break in the conference schedule, but I'm not sure cramming a low-level cupcake is the best use of that time.

You do occasionally see the marquee non-con matchups (Duke/SJU in recent years) in those slots, but I wouldn't expect anyone to start planning parts of their season around those.

[GooooMarquette]

Depends on your perspective...Jones did say he was leaving for the NBA after this year all the way back in October, though his stock seems to have slipped since.

I think Jones stays if he likes Drew, gone if he doesn't.  Likely would have stayed another year if Stellings was still there.

[WarriorPride68]

So we got:

Two of Michigan, Pittsburgh, and SMU. These will be in NYC as part of the 2K Classic.

Guessing Wojo will not be "liking" this matchup 

[AZMarqfan]

Still need to see who Marquette finishes filling the schedule with.  I was impressed with some of the good teams this year--Belmont, Iowa, LSU (based on ESPN-love, this win should have instantly gotten us in the Dance), Arizona St.  So at this point next year, I can't say I'm impressed with the schedule until I see the cupcakes.  This is where I really think the WCC and Big East need to partner up.  The WCC should agree to 2 road games for every home game, and each team gets 3 WCC-BE games.  This is much better than the crappy non-conference schedules. 

[Jay Bee]

Still need to see who Marquette finishes filling the schedule with.  I was impressed with some of the good teams this year--Belmont, Iowa, LSU (based on ESPN-love, this win should have instantly gotten us in the Dance), Arizona St.  So at this point next year, I can't say I'm impressed with the schedule until I see the cupcakes. 

Exactly the way to look at it, imo.

If we have a trio of teams who are going to be sitting around 4-26 on the season, the schedule we know of to-date doesn't result in a "strong" "SOS" in the RPI world.

[MU82]

When was the last time our peeps approached ND's peeps about a possible H/H?

That's the one I want most!

[We R Final Four]

When was the last time our peeps approached ND's peeps about a possible H/H?

That's the one I want most!

Me too. This would cure any scheduling ailment.
I would even agree to a 2:1 just to get it going again.

[MU82]

Me too. This would cure any scheduling ailment.
I would even agree to a 2:1 just to get it going again.

You might agree to that, but I like to think our peeps wouldn't agree to that. As much as I'd like to see the series re-started, I don't want us to "admit" we're the lesser program in the lesser league.

[We R Final Four]

Understood--but if it reignites the rivalry I would do it--understanding most would not.

[brewcity77]

When was the last time our peeps approached ND's peeps about a possible H/H?

That's the one I want most!

From what I was told, every year since ND left the Big East. And every year we got the same answer.

[Galway Eagle]

Didn't Brey say he wanted to continue playing us? Must be from ND's AD and such.

[Herman Cain]

From what I was told, every year since ND left the Big East. And every year we got the same answer.

ND will only schedule us if it is in their interest to do so. At this point they have no upside and only downside playing us.

A United Center game with tickets split evenly could be a possible compromise. 

[mu03eng]

I'm curious as to what the generational viewpoint of rivals is. I've always said for me the biggest rivals were (in order of loathing and desire to play): Wisconsin, Louisville, Cincinnati with ND problem 4 or 5 on the list. I came of MU age in the Crean/"old" BE era. Modern grads might think differently, so might old fogeys like MU82

[Herman Cain]

Right now we have one true rival that is Wisconsin, in that they care about beating us as much as we care about beating them. I put all the other games in the category of good games that we would like to schedule as much as possible.  At this point the double round robin of the Big East will serve to create rivalries.  It will take some time for that to play out.

[KampusFoods]

I'm curious as to what the generational viewpoint of rivals is. I've always said for me the biggest rivals were (in order of loathing and desire to play): Wisconsin, Louisville, Cincinnati with ND problem 4 or 5 on the list. I came of MU age in the Crean/"old" BE era. Modern grads might think differently, so might old fogeys like MU82

Modern grad: 1. wisconsin 2. Everyone else

Big East doesn't provide us with those easy-to-hate teams anymore (Lville, Cinci, Cuse, ND etc.), and the conference's need to validate itself with the Power 5 also makes us cheer FOR the rest of our conference.

I don't mind, though, as I loathe uw enough to make up for the lack of other "rivals".