Novak on the move

[NotBuzzWilliams]

Steve Novak, Steph Curry, Steve Kerr.  I guess if you want your kid to be a crazy good shooter, Stephen is the name for you.

Steven Avery?

[MU82]

Steven Avery?

I chuckled.

[keefe]

Say what you will but, as Alfred McGuire said, the guy made some serious dough 'running around in his underwear.'

That is f#cking great in my book.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Many years back, Chicos went on one of his rants about how Cream taught Novak how to expand his game beyond that of a spot up shooter. It was ridiculous then and it's ridiculous now.

Novak, by the way, is one of my all time favorites. Loved when he got the ball and got ready to shoot. A thing of beauty.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Those 500,000 guys aren't tall enough to be in NBA.  Get it? 

Why is he doing nothing the last 3-4 years?  Did he forget how to shoot?  No, it is the rest of his game.  Doesn't matter if he is that big a defensive liability. 

He is a class act and great shooter.  I actually was pulling hard for him.  I just don't understand how a great shooter like that cannot be a court spacer and three drainer on a team with a great player constantly demanding doubles.  Something is up.  See Ryan Anderson, Reddick, Dirk, Ersan I even of Bucks, Kerr, Parsons, all slow footed very good shooters that have managed to remain on the court.  I can give you 20 more if you want.  Can you?

An unguarded Novak is likely one of the top 5 shooters in the history of the planet and I might be selling him short there.

He is in a league of his own when it comes to shooting the rock. His limitations elsewhere are what keep him off the court. Every other player you mentioned brings something else to the table besides shooting. They are/were at least average at another NBA level skill. None of them are/were better shooters than Novak. Some might be close (Kerr, Dirk, Reddick), others not even close (Anderson, Ersan, Parsons). But Novak is a better pure shooter than all of them.

Basically you're trying to argue that he's an average shooter by saying he can't play defense, rebound, run fast, or dribble well. Duh. But all are irrelevant as it pertains to his shooting ability.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Let's be honest, his height had a little bit to do with it.

Indeed. It's the only thing that allows him to get an open look.

But give the guy an inch and he'll bury it in your face.

[willie warrior]

That is the real willie wampum.

[Marquette_g]

Let's be honest, his height had a little bit to do with it.

Fair point

[GGGG]

Indeed. It's the only thing that allows him to get an open look.

But give the guy an inch and he'll bury it in your face.

But the argument "Tommy" is making isn't being tall makes him a better shooter.  I would agree with that.

He is arguing that Novak is a shooter like thousands of others but only made the NBA because he is tall.  That is a different argument entirely.

[MuMark]

Steve is coming home.....https://twitter.com/espnsteinline/status/701094380166184960

[SqueallyDRyan]

Novak to the Bucks

[jsglow]

Bucks!  Playoffs baby!

[Silkk the Shaka]

But the argument "Tommy" is making isn't being tall makes him a better shooter.  I would agree with that.

He is arguing that Novak is a shooter like thousands of others but only made the NBA because he is tall.  That is a different argument entirely.

I disagree with everything Tommy has said re: Novak. No serious Novak observer would ever make any of those statements. We are in complete agreement Sultan

[PGsHeroes32]

In my hay day my shooting % from downtown was very similar to Novaks when I played 3 on 3 pick up games.

So do I qualify as one of the 500,000?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Many years back, Chicos went on one of his rants about how Cream taught Novak how to expand his game beyond that of a spot up shooter. It was ridiculous then and it's ridiculous now.

Novak, by the way, is one of my all time favorites. Loved when he got the ball and got ready to shoot. A thing of beauty.

It wasn't my rant, it was Steve Novak who said it.  I'll find the video to make you look foolish again.  Steve was a one trick pony for some time at MU, but Crean and staff forced him to go mid range and even post up, to keep the defense honest.  It worked.  Now, in the pros, Steve doesn't have the body to play that way, but in college he could.  That's why in the NBA they put him back as a one trick pony (and a great one at that), because that is what he could do.

Sorry you still don't get it.  When I find the video, please be sure to call Steve Novak an idiot for talking about the staff and what they forced him to do to become a better, more well rounded player.  I'm sure Steve would enjoy it, I know I will.

[martyconlonontherun]

I'm excited for this from a bucks perspective. Not that it will make a huge impact but it will be nice to watch Giannis with a little extra spacing from a stretch 4.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Not the video I'm looking for, but I'll find it.  Video has some nice footage of Steve being MORE than a spot up shooter.

https://www.youtube.com/v/eeJxNn3CqdQ



https://www.youtube.com/v/yvgTAFVcx7A


Your argument years ago, PRN, is that all he did was spot up, which was crap.  As this video below clearly shows.  By the time he was a junior and senior, he was taking guys off the dribble, using his midrange, etc.  That came from a lot of practice, pushing by the staff, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/v/p85vUMWtMz0

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Holy Mother of God...you STILL think he isn't a spot up shooter? It's literally all he's ever been able to do! And God love him for it!

[VegasWarrior77]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/369532191.html

Bucks poised to add Steve Novak through waiver process

By Charles F. Gardner of the Journal Sentinel
Feb. 20, 2016 1:14 p.m.
Atlanta - Former Marquette University standout Steve Novak has drawn serious interest from the Milwaukee Bucks, according to a league source.

Novak could join the Bucks if he clears waivers Sunday, after receiving a buyout from the Denver Nuggets on Friday. Novak was traded from the Oklahoma City Thunder to the Nuggets as part of a trade deadline deal Thursday.

The Bucks would have to release a player to add Novak as they are at the league maximum of 15 roster spots.

Milwaukee would be Novak's ninth NBA team. He posted a Twitter photo of his son earlier in the week, featuring the youngster shooting at a New York Knicks hoop while wearing an Oklahoma City jersey and Utah Jazz shorts.

Miami Heat star Dwyane Wade and fellow ex-Marquette star responded on Twitter: "Next we have to get him a Dwyane Wade Miami Heat basketball."

The 32-year-old Novak played in only seven games with the Thunder this season and was averaging 2.4 points.

The best years of his pro career came with the Knicks during the 2011-'12 and 2012-'13 seasons. He shot 47.2% from three-point range in 2011-'12 and averaged 8.8 points in 18.9 minutes per game.

The following year, when Jason Kidd was a Knicks teammate, Novak averaged 6.6 points in a career-best 20.3 minutes per game while appearing in 81 games. He shot 42.5% from three-point distance.

Novak also has played for the Houston Rockets, the team that drafted him in the second round in 2006 (32nd overall); the Los Angeles Clippers, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Knicks, Toronto Raptors, Jazz and Thunder.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Holy Mother of God...you STILL think he isn't a spot up shooter? It's literally all he's ever been able to do! And God love him for it!

I never said he isn't a spot up shooter...ever.  I said he is MORE than a spot up shooter and the staff helped him to expand his game.  Ignore the videos as you wish, if you think there are not many examples of him posting up, doing something OTHER than ONLY spot up shooting, than you are blind.  Simply, blind.

Quite frankly, when you say "it's LITERALLY ALL HE'S EVER BEEN ABLE TO DO" is a tremendous disservice to Steve Novak and his time at MU.  He became a defender, a rebounder, and more than just a spot up shooter at MU.  In the NBA, yes....he is a spot up shooter, because he can't do the other things at that level.  At MU, he came in as a spot up shooter, but he evolved.

[wadesworld]

I'm excited for this from a bucks perspective. Not that it will make a huge impact but it will be nice to watch Giannis with a little extra spacing from a stretch 4.

Novak will not play at all.

[WarriorPride68]

Shots fired on top Deadspin comments

Rylo Ken
2/20/16 8:18pm
You'd have to take them over the Marquette Golden Eagles, that's for sure.

[HouWarrior]

I never said he isn't a spot up shooter...ever.  I said he is MORE than a spot up shooter and the staff helped him to expand his game.  Ignore the videos as you wish, if you think there are not many examples of him posting up, doing something OTHER than ONLY spot up shooting, than you are blind.  Simply, blind.

Quite frankly, when you say "it's LITERALLY ALL HE'S EVER BEEN ABLE TO DO" is a tremendous disservice to Steve Novak and his time at MU.  He became a defender, a rebounder, and more than just a spot up shooter at MU.  In the NBA, yes....he is a spot up shooter, because he can't do the other things at that level.  At MU, he came in as a spot up shooter, but he evolved.

Please dont get so mad and insulting to people here. This thread has only been discussing his NBA history, play and skills...so the post/poster was totally consistent with what even you concede...he has been one dimensional at the NBA level.
Sure you can support your insult by redefining the argument to include his college, pre NBA time...where he could get away with the poorer body positioning and poor footwork, and still stay in front of an opponent and grab a board or two. But why?
Sure the post mistakenly says its all he could ever do, but my guess is with his size ...in grade school and high school he could do plenty more. Should we redefine to those levels too...just to top someone else? I can only ask...please take a pause before posting and ramping up to calling others blind...especially where here you literally had to recast the point to another period..just make it valid. I like that you post; I have always supported your right of speech...but I dont find any insults or bullying to be an integral part of the points you make. I think you are fully capable of making them without making others feel bad. Argue the merits...not the achilles...please. Thanks

[rocket surgeon]

Novak will not play at all.

what?  really?  i was at the game on friday-they sure could have used him-vaugh-their designated "sharp shooter" must have missed like 6 or more WIDE OPEN LOOKS from the arc-brutal.  if we had stevo, we would have won that game.  as someone here noted, he will stretch the floor.  kinda like establishing the passing game to open the run-EH'na?  plus jason kidd is a fan.  he will find a slot for him, even if it's only for a few minutes at a time, they will be productive minutes in more ways than one

[real chili 83]

Novak did develop in college to be a solid rebounder, etc.  however, those skills weren't what got him this long of a career in the nba.