Six Ways To Save Marquette's Season

[mubbnation]

http://marquettenation.com/2016/01/31/six-ways-to-save-marquettes-season/

Hey, we've already got 1/6, don't we?

[bilsu]

#2 I do not think winning one of those four does us any good. I see two as very possible and needed. I also disagree that we cannot beat Providence. We already have and we did last year too. We may just be a bad match up for them.

[brewcity77]

Not sure what's crazier here, that going 1-3 in our next 4 would help "save our season" or that 9-9 would have us in the conversation for an at-large.

[PGsHeroes32]

Not sure what's crazier here, that going 1-3 in our next 4 would help "save our season" or that 9-9 would have us in the conversation for an at-large.

The 1-3 one is what really got me.

That just made no sense

[bilsu]

Not sure what's crazier here, that going 1-3 in our next 4 would help "save our season" or that 9-9 would have us in the conversation for an at-large.

I think 9-9 will get us in the consideration. I just do not think we will be picked over the other teams who are also in consideration. However, at this point there is no way of knowing who the bubble teams will be.

[WarriorPride68]

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[brewcity77]

I think 9-9 will get us in the consideration. I just do not think we will be picked over the other teams who are also in consideration. However, at this point there is no way of knowing who the bubble teams will be.

It would take a really, really soft bubble. 9-9, even with two wins at MSG, would leave us with a likely RPI in the 70s. There hasn't been an at large in the 70s this century.

[bilsu]

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Teams are going to play themselves onto or off the bubble. MU has to play themselves on. No way of knowing how the rest of the regular season along with conference tournaments are going to play out for anyteams. Certainly there will be a team that you would consider a lock now ending up on the bubble and a team (maybe MU) who plays themself onto the bubble.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I know some of the guys over at Marquette nation and let's just say they aren't the most knowledgeable about basketball. They're more eternal optimist, cheerleader type. They don't really understand what it means to make the tourney because for a lot of them their freshman year was last year or this year.

[NCMUFan]

We just need to win more games and lose fewer games.
If we are deserving it will work out.

[TallTitan34]

My realistic goal is a successful NIT run.

[dgies9156]

We're on the outside looking in right now. Real Warriors hate that and don't give up until the season is over.

Basically, we're going to have to protect our house like we did against Butler. Win all 'em at home (OK, except Villanova), beat those horses a*s Blue Demons in Rosemont and do our best to win this week in Seton Hall and Omaha and we're probably back on the bubble.

If we play like we did Saturday with the defensive intensity we had, there isn't a game we have left that we're not in it!

[CountryRoads]

The 1-3 one is what really got me.

That just made no sense

Yeah, the whole article was stupid. The author pretty much communicated he had no pulse of MU hoops or college basketball in general. That's what I got out of it.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Yeah, the whole article was stupid. The author pretty much communicated he had no pulse of MU hoops or college basketball in general. That's what I got out of it.

You're not wrong.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

It would take a really, really soft bubble. 9-9, even with two wins at MSG, would leave us with a likely RPI in the 70s. There hasn't been an at large in the 70s this century.

I agree that 9-9 probably won't get it done, but there are 4 more at large teams now than there were for the majority of the last decade. That makes a difference.

9-9 will get them on the committees radar, but likely leaves them out.

[bilsu]

I want an NCAA bid. However, that is likely to be a one and done. An NIT bid could mean several more games to watch Ellenson before he leaves. Anyway any tournament experience is good for next year's team.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I want an NCAA bid. However, that is likely to be a one and done. An NIT bid could mean several more games to watch Ellenson before he leaves. Anyway any tournament experience is good for next year's team.

Nonsense.  You take one and done NCAAs (plus, once there you never know), over an NIT championship everyday.

[GGGG]

Nonsense.  You take one and done NCAAs (plus, once there you never know), over an NIT championship everyday.

I don't agree with this at all.  If I were given a choice between a one and done NCAA bid, and an NIT Final Four run, I would take the latter with a young team. 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I don't agree with this at all.  If I were given a choice between a one and done NCAA bid, and an NIT Final Four run, I would take the latter with a young team.

I wouldn't. Plus, you can't choose the outcomes once there. You take the NCAAs everytime. Never know what can happen. Who gives a rip about the NIT? Sure, it'd be nice for this team to take a deep run in the NITs if that's where they end up, but I can't guarantee no one on the team, or the coaching staff, thinks that way.

If they end up in the NIT, of course I will root for them and hope they win it, but it's NCAAs until they're eliminated.

[GGGG]

I wouldn't. Plus, you can't choose the outcomes once there. You take the NCAAs everytime. Never know what can happen. Who gives a rip about the NIT? Sure, it'd be nice for this team to take a deep run in the NITs if that's where they end up, but I can't guarantee no one on the team, or the coaching staff, thinks that way.

If they end up in the NIT, of course I will root for them and hope they win it, but it's NCAAs until they're eliminated.

I don't think you understand my point.  IF I were told the guaranteed outcome of an NCAA bid was a first round loss, and IF I was told the guaranteed outcome of an NIT bid was a final four run, I would take the latter.

But I would take an NCAA bid over an NIT bid because, as you said, you never know.

[brewcity77]

This year I'd take the NIT Final Four. Here's the thing, I don't realistically have any hopes of anything more than a Sweet 16 run (and that's ultimate optimist) this year, which means we're building for the future.

I'll take home games and a longer season over losing in the first round, or worse, losing a play in where no one is even writing our name in their bracket.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I don't think you understand my point.  IF I were told the guaranteed outcome of an NCAA bid was a first round loss, and IF I was told the guaranteed outcome of an NIT bid was a final four run, I would take the latter.

But I would take an NCAA bid over an NIT bid because, as you said, you never know.

I fully understand your point, Sultan. Problem is, there are no guaranteed outcomes, so you take NCAAs everytime.

But I do agree that a deep run in the NIT would be good for this team since it so young. But I think ending this 2 year drought would be more important to the team, to confidence, to recruiting, to fans, etc.  It's better for the program for MU to dance. 

One game at a time. A W on Wednesday is necessary.

[Litehouse]

I'd take the NCAA bid even if you knew ahead of time that you'd lose.  NCAA bids are a stat with historical significance for a program.

[GGGG]

I'd take the NCAA bid even if you knew ahead of time that you'd lose.  NCAA bids are a stat with historical significance for a program.

Not really. 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I'd take the NCAA bid even if you knew ahead of time that you'd lose.  NCAA bids are a stat with historical significance for a program.

Exactly. No one cares about or watches the NIT. I am a pretty die hard CBB fan and watch a ton of it.  I may flip on a few NIT games since it is only CBB on at the time (midweek), but it is a totally meaningless tournament outside of gaining experience for the returning players.