Bo Ryan Story

[naginiF]

Satire.

delusion and satire are sometimes the opposite sides of the same coin.  in this case either the politics board is satire too or this is delusion.

[mreezybreezy]

Bo Ryan sucks

[Windyplayer]

Bo Ryan sucks

Your brevity in summarizing 12 pages is nothing short of breathtaking.

[ChicosBailBonds]

So you're saying Bo had an affair with Buzz?

Brandx lying again...weird.  I said nothing of the kind about Buzz that is eerily familiar with what Bo is accused of.  Nothing.  If you want to talk about Buzz in other ways, sure.  The administration is thrilled with who they have, so are some very prominent boosters, and current \ former athletic department \ university employees.

[MUDPT]

Check out the article from today.  No one from Madison will ever write the Bo story, the media is in tight with the Athletic Department.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/college/tom-oates-don-t-fret-uw-is-playing-the-game/article_76fe5ece-34f5-570f-a02e-a632bdb56283.html

[KenoshaWarrior]

Check out the article from today.  No one from Madison will ever write the Bo story, the media is in tight with the Athletic Department.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/college/tom-oates-don-t-fret-uw-is-playing-the-game/article_76fe5ece-34f5-570f-a02e-a632bdb56283.html

If UW was in Milwaukee, the story would have already broke.   Instead they are in an insulated college town full of people who cant take off their Crimson colored glasses.   
The biggest College sport scandals are always in large cities.  USC, Miami, SMU, Boston College, Arizona State, Minnesota.  All schools that are in giant metro areas where the sports writers are usually from somewhere else and are trying to do actual journalism.

[GGGG]

If UW was in Milwaukee, the story would have already broke.   Instead they are in an insulated college town full of people who cant take off their Crimson colored glasses.   

Why would they have crimson colored glasses?

And I don't recall the Marquette beat reporter (whoever it was back then) doing any story regarding the whole sexual assault allegations even though it was known by many for months before it even sniffed the light of day.  So let's not assume the Milwaukee media would do anything about this either.  Potroykus isn't writing anything about Bo either.

[GGGG]

Check out the article from today.  No one from Madison will ever write the Bo story, the media is in tight with the Athletic Department.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/college/tom-oates-don-t-fret-uw-is-playing-the-game/article_76fe5ece-34f5-570f-a02e-a632bdb56283.html

Yep.  As I said, no one has an incentive to make this public.

[MerrittsMustache]

If UW was in Milwaukee, the story would have already broke.   Instead they are in an insulated college town full of people who cant take off their Crimson colored glasses.   
The biggest College sport scandals are always in large cities.  USC, Miami, SMU, Boston College, Arizona State, Minnesota.  All schools that are in giant metro areas where the sports writers are usually from somewhere else and are trying to do actual journalism.

I'm sure there are journalists in Madison who want to do the research and write the story, but there's no incentive for them to do so because Madison/UW people don't want to hear it. In addition, the outlet that runs the story would basically be burning their bridge with the university. The only person who'd write that story would be an independent writer on his way out of state.

Put another way, let's say that a reporter wrote a piece detailing fact-based improprieties of Al McGuire. Think that person would be welcomed at a Marquette function? Now, replace "Al McGuire" with "Bo Ryan" and "at a Marquette function" with "in the state of Wisconsin" and there you go.

[GGGG]

I'm sure there are journalists in Madison who want to do the research and write the story, but there's no incentive for them to do so because Madison/UW people don't want to hear it. In addition, the outlet that runs the story would basically be burning their bridge with the university. The only person who'd write that story would be an independent writer on his way out of state.

A well connected blogger could do it as well.  I would guess that FOIA requests have already been submitted by someone somewhere.

People who expect relatively small newspapers to do this stuff don't understand the motives of that industry any longer.  They don't break anything.

EDIT:  Look at Texas A&M.  Chip Brown, who writes for Horns Digest, detailed some of the issues related to the athletic department's financials, Kevin Sumlin's contract, and how the President wants to find a way to get out of the contract.  This annoyed the President enough angst to call out the writer.  Now Chip Brown was the guy on the A&M to SEC story long before any newspaper was.  He's a well connected guy.  But this is where this kind of stuff that breaks long before a publications does it.

[avid1010]

If UW was in Milwaukee, the story would have already broke.   Instead they are in an insulated college town full of people who cant take off their Crimson colored glasses.   
The biggest College sport scandals are always in large cities.  USC, Miami, SMU, Boston College, Arizona State, Minnesota.  All schools that are in giant metro areas where the sports writers are usually from somewhere else and are trying to do actual journalism.

nothing about this post makes sense.

"the biggest college sports scandals are always in large cities" - false, and always is a dumb word to use.

"crimson glasses" - ?? 

a madison (or for that matter milwaukee or national) journalist that could brake that story would surely benefit career wise. 

[We R Final Four]

nothing about this post makes sense.

"the biggest college sports scandals are always in large cities" - false, and always is a dumb word to use.

"crimson glasses" - ?? 

a madison (or for that matter milwaukee or national) journalist that could brake that story would surely benefit career wise.

The problem is that the brakes are already on that story.  We need to release that brake.

[Windyplayer]

"the biggest college sports scandals are always in large cities" - false, and always is a dumb word to use.

The reasoning makes sense. Can you provide concrete examples to refute that assertion. To me, it's follow the money. A lot of revenue is generated through the university in college towns so tread lightly when anything threatens that stream. In bigger cities, that's not so much a problem. Of course, I agree "always" is extreme, but often or a majority of the time may be appropriate.

[CubillanSandwich]

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[naginiF]

The reasoning makes sense. Can you provide concrete examples to refute that assertion. To me, it's follow the money. A lot of revenue is generated through the university in college towns so tread lightly when anything threatens that stream. In bigger cities, that's not so much a problem. Of course, I agree "always" is extreme, but often or a majority of the time may be appropriate.

Tubby Smith at UK, Bobby Knights last year at IU, Pearl Show of Cause at UT, and Boeheim's 9 game suspension come to mind as scandals that are not in "large" cities - at least I've never heard anyone call Lexington/Bloomington/Knoxville/Syracuse large cities.  I didn't do a population comparison but they all feel about comparable to Madison

[Windyplayer]

Tubby Smith at UK, Bobby Knights last year at IU, Pearl Show of Cause at UT, and Boeheim's 9 game suspension come to mind as scandals that are not in "large" cities - at least I've never heard anyone call Lexington/Bloomington/Knoxville/Syracuse large cities.  I didn't do a population comparison but they all feel about comparable to Madison

Fair enough, but a lot of those investigations, if not all, were spearheaded by the NCAA which is insulated from local scorn. Those reporters can take cover under the NCAA.

[GooooMarquette]

If UW was in Milwaukee, the story would have already broke.   Instead they are in an insulated college town full of people who cant take off their Crimson colored glasses.   
The biggest College sport scandals are always in large cities.  USC, Miami, SMU, Boston College, Arizona State, Minnesota.  All schools that are in giant metro areas where the sports writers are usually from somewhere else and are trying to do actual journalism.

Chapel Hill, NC.

[Windyplayer]

Chapel Hill, NC.

I guess the question is: are local reporters creating smoke drawing the NCAA's attention or vice versa?

[avid1010]

The reasoning makes sense. Can you provide concrete examples to refute that assertion. To me, it's follow the money. A lot of revenue is generated through the university in college towns so tread lightly when anything threatens that stream. In bigger cities, that's not so much a problem. Of course, I agree "always" is extreme, but often or a majority of the time may be appropriate.

there's no reasoning involved...and to make that claim makes so many assumptions.  plenty of examples to refute it...that means the word "always" was poorly used, but it's an assumption at best...stated as fact. 

[rocket surgeon]

Check out the article from today.  No one from Madison will ever write the Bo story, the media is in tight with the Athletic Department.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/college/tom-oates-don-t-fret-uw-is-playing-the-game/article_76fe5ece-34f5-570f-a02e-a632bdb56283.html

wow-ya just gotta love 'em.  nothing to see here.  2 events in the last year have caused more bewilderment among UW fans...yeah, diamond stone he couldn't get into UW so (he turned down yale and harvard) and chose maryland instead-yeah right.  but back to the bewilderment part-are you schmitting me?  the UW fans wanted to know if bo got the top or did she?  they want to know if bo had her barkin like a dog man.  where did they meet?  how many times?  did she like whips and chains and did bo really like to be tied up?  come on, he's a closet submissive just as we thought-heyna?  oh well, at least dave aranda didn't leave over a profound disgust over bo's behavior or that bo wouldn't share. ah ha-it was for the money.  now i can finally sleep-cool

[Windyplayer]

there's no reasoning involved...and to make that claim makes so many assumptions.  plenty of examples to refute it...that means the word "always" was poorly used, but it's an assumption at best...stated as fact.

Yes, reasonable assumptions that may be refuted. That's all I was saying.

[mu03eng]

Check out the article from today.  No one from Madison will ever write the Bo story, the media is in tight with the Athletic Department.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/college/tom-oates-don-t-fret-uw-is-playing-the-game/article_76fe5ece-34f5-570f-a02e-a632bdb56283.html

Pandering at it's finest (clickbait!)

[brandx]

Brandx lying again...weird.  I said nothing of the kind about Buzz that is eerily familiar with what Bo is accused of.  Nothing.  If you want to talk about Buzz in other ways, sure.  The administration is thrilled with who they have, so are some very prominent boosters, and current \ former athletic department \ university employees.

Of course not. Cuz you said you knew things about Buzz but won't say what they are.

[Dahmerville]

When we make 2 Final Fours in a row we can talk......Bo has made us look silly for most of his time in Madison.   

[GGGG]

When we make 2 Final Fours in a row we can talk......Bo has made us look silly for most of his time in Madison.   

Bo was 8-7 v. Marquette I believe.  Hardly making us look silly.