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Author Topic: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington  (Read 14567 times)

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2015, 03:47:12 PM »

Oh good lord....that is seriously embarrassing.

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2015, 03:48:38 PM »
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That's Northwestern.  Doesn't really count. 

But in all seriousness, we are talking about IU here.  They wouldn't have looked at either Wojo or Collins if either were available. 

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2015, 03:49:53 PM »

Oh good lord....that is seriously embarrassing.

Come on! I had to say it in jest before someone said it sincerely.


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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2015, 04:05:30 PM »

That's Northwestern.  Doesn't really count. 

But in all seriousness, we are talking about IU here.  They wouldn't have looked at either Wojo or Collins if either were available.

Probably true. I4 really does have some merrit no matter how much we make fun of it. That plus Indiana really is a basketball state. (Along with Illinois but don't get me started on that tire fire.)

Also, Northwestern will finish in the top half of the Big 10 this year. If Vic Law didn't get hurt, that is probably a tourney team.

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2015, 05:35:14 PM »

I think calling Crean and Sampson "retreads" completely redefines the word.  Both were considered pretty hot coaching candidates at the time.

And what high major program hires an assistant from another program for his first coaching gig (versus promoted from within?)  The last I can think of is Roy Williams at Kansas.

Johnny Dawkins, Stanford
Mike Daugherty, ND
Roy Williams, Kansas
Tommy Amaker, Michigan
Rich Pitino, Minnesota (yes he coached 1yr at FIU but he got hired based on his asst resume )
Shaka VCU
Mullins St. John's
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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2015, 06:13:37 PM »
Wrong! Crean is more accurately a "lame dick" in Bloomin'ton, ai na?
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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2015, 06:43:26 PM »
Sampson is now at University of Houston, and Guy V  Lewis' last wish before he died last week was that Sampson return to Indiana, lol

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2015, 08:31:35 PM »

And what high major program hires an assistant from another program for his first coaching gig (versus promoted from within?)  The last I can think of is Roy Williams at Kansas.

The Roy Williams saga proved one thing: Kansas University is little more than a stepping stone for the Blue Bloods of college basketball


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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2015, 05:59:08 AM »
Johnny Dawkins, Stanford
Mike Daugherty, ND
Roy Williams, Kansas
Tommy Amaker, Michigan
Rich Pitino, Minnesota (yes he coached 1yr at FIU but he got hired based on his asst resume )
Shaka VCU
Mullins St. John's


Pitino doesn't count. VCU doesn't meet the criteria. Amacher was hired by Seton Hall first. But that list shows that it is exceedingly rare.

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2015, 09:01:38 AM »
Historically, don't Crean coached teams peak in November and December?  8 years in and no roster balance, no size or depth up front, poor defense.....    He needs to keep hitching his pants up to move the hot spot around. 
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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2015, 12:32:52 PM »
He needs to keep hitching his pants up to move the hot spot around.


The guy is a weird f#ck



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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2015, 01:19:49 PM »
What slam dunk type of coach (proven coach from a high caliber conference) would show reciprocal interest in IU?

Wojo ... after this season's Final Four run.
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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2015, 03:50:35 PM »
Historically, don't Crean coached teams peak in November and December?  8 years in and no roster balance, no size or depth up front, poor defense.....    He needs to keep hitching his pants up to move the hot spot around.

Yeah the more I watch Luke and see how good he is the more I realize that maybe the lack of control over the basketball program and the lack of control of the culture by the head coach may not have been why he came home, it might've simply been he wanted a coach who had a clue how to use size and talent.
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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2015, 07:57:47 PM »
What slam dunk type of coach (proven coach from a high caliber conference) would show reciprocal interest in IU?

Take a page out of DePaul's playbook and bring back Mike Davis!

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2015, 01:04:45 AM »
Steve Alford.

Maybe.

http://www.bruinsnation.com/2014/10/9/6949251/ucla-basketball-steve-alfords-new-contract-provisions-dan-guerrero

Not a fan of Alford. Not a very nice person. Threatened to ruin a kids chances of committing anywhere else after he decommitted from him at New Mexico.

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2015, 09:28:49 AM »
Not a fan of Alford. Not a very nice person. Threatened to ruin a kids chances of committing anywhere else after he decommitted from him at New Mexico.

Also told everyone to look the other way while one (or more) of his players was "playing reruns of the Cosby Show."
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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2016, 11:31:42 PM »
Well, IU won the Big Ten title tonight.  Second time in four years.  Suffered another major injury in the process, however.  Not good for the post season if they are without another key player.


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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2016, 12:52:17 AM »
  Suffered another major injury in the process, however.  Not good for the post season if they are without another key player.

Well, Tanned Tommy has the perfect excuse for when his team gets schwacked on the first night...


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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2016, 05:26:33 AM »
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/111865/outright-big-ten-title-seals-indianas-unlikely-comeback-story

i'm not a big fan and my nephew down at IU would have agreed with all of this as of december, but...i think he's back.  now they are going to expect big things at the dance...stay tuned
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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2016, 07:07:42 AM »
This season may have been his best coaching job.

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2016, 07:17:20 AM »
Gotta give credit where it's due.  Pretty impressive to run away from a couple of very good teams in MSU and Maryland.  Flip side is Iowa - what a pathetic fade down the stretch.  Lost 5 of last 6...with only win a close one over a moribund Minnesota team.

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2016, 07:59:31 AM »
Crean's best coaching job since the Amigo's.    IMO, the first time his team's have overachieved their talent since that year.    He has cooled his seat.   
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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2016, 08:09:45 AM »
He has had a very good year. Unfortunately for him, the nut jobs in Indiana are likley to loose their minds all over again if they get bounced early again.

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Re: Tom Crean is a lame duck in Bloomington
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2016, 08:47:16 AM »
Crean's best coaching job since the Amigo's.    IMO, the first time his team's have overachieved their talent since that year.    He has cooled his seat.   

I'd argue that he underachieved the Amigo's talent, admittedly he got short changed on some injuries but still underachieved.
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