Belmont thoughts

[GooooMarquette]

Good effort by a young team. 

In addition what has already been mentioned, Sacar will be really good.

[mattyv1908]

Don't know and don't care.

I think that's juvenile.  Many here thought Wojo's in game coaching was an area needing improvement from last season.  While Buzz may have been classless, he coached a pretty good game inside of the two twenty minute halves.

We should be looking for improvements from the young coaching staff as much as from the returning players.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think that's juvenile.  Many here thought Wojo's in game coaching was an area needing improvement from last season.  While Buzz may have been classless, he coached a pretty good game inside of the two twenty minute halves.

We should be looking for improvements from the young coaching staff as much as from the returning players.

Again, Buzz couldn't get several of these key players because they wanted nothing to do with him.

Second, Buzz didn't like playing freshmen, so knowing this I'd love to know who he would have played today.

Third, Buzz lost a few games to some teams of less quality than this Belmont team.

[MU82]

Again, Buzz couldn't get several of these key players because they wanted nothing to do with him.

Second, Buzz didn't like playing freshmen, so knowing this I'd love to know who he would have played today.

Third, Buzz lost a few games to some teams of less quality than this Belmont team.

Agree with all of this, Chicos.

It's silliness. Nobody can "prove" anything with these hypotheticals. Not worth the time thinking about.

[Lennys Tap]

Buzz couldn't get that roster as Henry was never going to play for Buzz.

Of courser Buzz couldn't and wouldn't get THAT roster. Every coach gets his own unique roster. But Buzz would have beaten this team pretty easily with 5 of the 6 rosters he did get and #6 probably wins a close one at the Bradley Center.

I have high hopes for Wojo's as a coach but he's a ways away.

[Eldon]

Again, Buzz couldn't get several of these key players because they wanted nothing to do with him.

Second, Buzz didn't like playing freshmen, so knowing this I'd love to know who he would have played today.

Third, Buzz lost a few games to some teams of less quality than this Belmont team.

I haven't checked the box score, but from the radio it sure sounded like the freshman all got quite a bit of playing time.

And so a silver lining in this crappy loss is that if this minutes distribution keeps up, we should have a pretty deep bench (by experience) come BE Tourney time.

[#UnleashSean]

A lot of freshman/young mistakes throughout the game. Things will improve on that regard.


Overall the team was much more fun to watch then previous years

[mug644]

Another thought is that our execution at the end (last 3 min or so) of each half was weak. In the first half, it was the defense that fell apart, while in the second half, it was the offense that felt the pressure and fell apart. With a young and inexperienced team, any takeaways from that?

[Eldon]

I think that's juvenile.  Many here thought Wojo's in game coaching was an area needing improvement from last season.  While Buzz may have been classless, he coached a pretty good game inside of the two twenty minute halves.

We should be looking for improvements from the young coaching staff as much as from the returning players.

So I take it that you would still take the trade of Wojo and three scholarships for Ed Cooley?

[mattyv1908]

Of course couldn't and wouldn't get THAT roster. Every coach gets his own unique roster. But Buzz would have beaten this team pretty easily with 5 of the 6 rosters he did get and #6 probably wins a close one at the Bradley Center.

I have high hopes for Wojo's as a coach but he's a ways away.

Well said.

I don't think anybody is wanting Buzz back, but using him as a barometer for in-game coaching is hardly something to take offense over.  Lavin is/was a fantastic recruiter but nobody on this board hesitated one second in pointing out his coaching deficiencies.

[MU82]

Ellenson obviously has talent and he was very good offensively much of the night. Still, he missed way more than he made, he bricked two important FTs, he committed an obvious charging foul when we desperately needed a bucket, etc.

I'm still going glass half-full here, though. He definitely has the look of a stud. He's probably relieved to get the first game out of the way and, by all accounts, he's smart enough to learn from this.

Still excited about Henry and our Warriors overall. Just gotta play better team and individual defense, win more of the 50-50 battles and make some better decisions.

[mattyv1908]

So I take it that you would still take the trade of Wojo and three scholarships for Ed Cooley?

Cooley's a much better coach at this stage of the game.

[Freeport Warrior]

Duane's gotta pass that over to Henry at the end of the game. He was sitting there wide open and could have set and popped.

[mug644]

Ellenson obviously has talent and he was very good offensively much of the night. Still, he missed way more than he made, he bricked two important FTs, he committed an obvious charging foul when we desperately needed a bucket, etc.

I'm still going glass half-full here, though. He definitely has the look of a stud. He's probably relieved to get the first game out of the way and, by all accounts, he's smart enough to learn from this.

Still excited about Henry and our Warriors overall. Just gotta play better team and individual defense, win more of the 50-50 battles and make some better decisions.

Spot on. And it's only one game. And he went for 21 and 16. He's a solid player and will be important this season, and has a great future ahead of him. But he's also a freshman.

[GooooMarquette]

Wow.  Exciting game in which a very talented, frosh-laden team fights back a couple of times against a solid opponent, then loses on a few mistakes at the end...and we're debating Wojo vs Buzz vs Cooley?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well said.

I don't think anybody is wanting Buzz back, but using him as a barometer for in-game coaching is hardly something to take offense over.  Lavin is/was a fantastic recruiter but nobody on this board hesitated one second in pointing out his coaching deficiencies.

I'm not taking issue with it, I just don't get the point of the entire post.  Buzz isn't our coach, and since we don't want him back, why does it matter?   I guess you could have used 355 other coaches as options.

To me, it looked like a young team playing young, against a more seasoned team that was disciplined.  I'll trade the youth and long term upside over the short term loss.

Hopefully it all works out, but I picked this team for NIT.  I don't expect NCAA because of our guards.  I will be pleasantly surprised if we make it.  My valuation of Wojo will continue like anyone else's, but I am of the firm belief you give a coach a chance to have a full recruiting class cycle through.  Long long long way to go.

[BM1090]

The positive? Cohen and JaJuan relative to expectations. We shot 23% from 3 and had every chance to pull this game out. Duane won't go 1-8 every game from three. Cheatham and Ellenson look like players.

Negatives? No minutes from Wally in a close game. We shot 23% percent from 3, need big improvements. Defense on Belmont pick and rolls. Basic stuff, guys were getting lost. A loss is a loss.

Overall, I'm not too discouraged. Need to improve, but the talent is there to do so. If we pull this game out by 1 point this board has an entirely different tone. It sucks to be 0-1, but we will be far better than last year.

[Lennys Tap]

Again, Buzz couldn't get several of these key players because they wanted nothing to do with him.

So Luke, Duane, JJJ and Sandy wanted something to do with Buzz - in fact they came to Marquette because of him.

I don't think there's any evidence that Buzz cared about recruiting Traci, Hanif or Sacar..

Held the and Wally aren't key players.

That leaves Henry. Even if you're right about him (no evidence) it's a far cry from several.

[Herman Cain]

Henry needs to learn how to make players around him better. Otherwise he is just another me first stay guy. I think he will have trouble against athletic opponents .

Wojo =good recruiter /weak game coach

Don't know how long patience for that will be

More Haanif less Traci

Duane needs to be more of a leader

[fjm]

I'm just saying, we don't lose that game with Coach Krzyzewski or Calipari or Rick Pitino....

[dgies9156]

Would you guys quit whining about the hillbilly. He's gone and good riddance.

The going got tough and the Hillbilly got going...  out
Since I am on an airplane, I saw only the stat sheet, but it appears. we lost this game in the first half. Way too many threes made against us. We play better D, we win this game.

We have freshmen. Which is why we lost to a bible college. I still think we're darn good but we have growing to do.

[mattyv1908]

I'm just saying, we don't lose that game with Coach Krzyzewski or Calipari or Rick Pitino....

Does Bo lose that game with that roster?

[fjm]

Does Bo lose that game with that roster?

There is NO WAY that Bo loses this game with this roster! And no way Chip Kelly or Greg Popovivch lose this game with this roster!

I'm sure some of you guys love how you look in Virginia tech shirts, but the past is over so stop being dbags..

The way I see it, you can complain about Wojos coaching, but I disagree... We lost because of a bad D Will shot, 2 missed FRESHMAN HE free throws, and an out of control over excited FRESHMAN play by the PG. this crap is going to happen this year, they are freshman... If that upsets you, tune into the Va tech or Wisconsin games.

[tower912]

Oh, yeah........
11.   Turns out the rule change that impacted tonight's game the most was fewer timeouts.    Pretty sure that if Wojo would have liked another one in the last minute.

[Anti-Dentite]

The talent is there and we should make the tournament. This is where my evaluation of Wojo starts. He should be able to figure out the pieces and get them there. It's going to be on him if we miss. I'm hopeful but it's still an unknown in my mind.