NFL arrests over the last five year

[Tugg Speedman]

Mike Rosenberg ‏@RosenbergMerc
If you take all the NFL players arrested over the last 5 years, they'd be able to play ten 11-on-11 games




This scatter plot compares the number of wins by each NFL team over the last five years to the number of players arrested from each team over the same time span. The data show a correlation of r^2 = -0.0093.
NFL arrests data from Mike Rosenberg (https://mobile.twitter.com/RosenbergMerc/status/630832007472263168)
NFL wins data from http://mcubed.net/nfl/fw2010.shtml

Vikings are number one: In NFL arrests over the last five years
Posted by Darin Gantt on August 11, 2015, 5:54 AM EDT
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/11/vikings-are-number-one-in-nfl-arrests-over-the-last-five-years/

Now that players are through with their time off for the year, and into the routine of a preseason, the number of NFL arrests has declined sharply.

Well, except for Aldon Smith, anyway.

But even though the 49ers are in the top five, they’re not the most arrested team in the NFL lately.

According to data compiled by former San Jose Mercury News reporter Mike Rosenberg, the Vikings are leading the way with 18 arrests the last five years.

They’re followed by the Broncos (16), the Colts and Buccaneers (13 each) and the 49ers (12).

At the other end of the spectrum, the Texans come in last with just one, and they cut rookie defensive tackle Brandon Ivory within days of his arrest in Alabama.

The Chargers, Giants and Panthers are tied for next-to-last with three each, and the Dolphins and Saints are next with four. The Patriots are among the teams next with five, even though one of theirs was the double-murder conviction for former tight end Aaron Hernandez.

He points out that if you narrow the scope to the last year, the Colts lead the way with five. Since 2012, it’s the 49ers, while the Vikings reclaim the lead when you stretch the study out.

It’s hard to know what conclusions to draw from this list (he even notes there’s not a strong correlation between number of wins and record).

But he does add that Kenny Britt himself would be 20th on the list, and Smith and Ray McDonald alone would be tied for 23rd, though Britt’s the only one currently available to help add to a team’s total.

[Blackhat]

Well at least the Vikings sold their orgy yacht.   

Multiple assaults probably took place there.

[brandx]

NFL players have a lower arrest rate than the general population of males in this country except for weapons charges. This despite the fact that the NFL has a much higher percentage of blacks than the general population.

Among the age group that makes up most of the NFL, the domestic abuse rate is barely over 50% that of the general population in the same age group. And the overall crime rate is just 13% of the general.

NFL players, in general, are model citizens. They live lives that we should hope that our children do when they are in their 20s.

[Tugg Speedman]

NFL players have a lower arrest rate than the general population of males in this country except for weapons charges. This despite the fact that the NFL has a much higher percentage of blacks than the general population.

Among the age group that makes up most of the NFL, the domestic abuse rate is barely over 50% that of the general population in the same age group. And the overall crime rate is just 13% of the general.

NFL players, in general, are model citizens. They live lives that we should hope that our children do when they are in their 20s.hope

This is true if you define them as early to mid-20s males, largely African Americans and then compare them to similar statistics in the general population.

It is not if you define them as early to mid-20s male MILLIONAIRES and then compare them to ivy graduates, young Wall Streeters and Tech heavyweights (in addition to entertainment stars, NBA, MLB and NHL players ... hello Patrick Kane).

So it all depends on what group they belong to, what matters more ... age and skin color or age and paycheck?

[brandx]

This is true if you define them as early to mid-20s males, largely African Americans and then compare them to similar statistics in the general population.

It is not if you define them as early to mid-20s male MILLIONAIRES and then compare them to ivy graduates, young Wall Streeters and Tech heavyweights (in addition to entertainment stars, NBA, MLB and NHL players ... hello Patrick Kane).

So it all depends on what group they belong to, what matters more ... age and skin color or age and paycheck?

You mean where most of the inner city population is employed?

[Tugg Speedman]

You mean where most of the inner city population is employed?

Not sure what you're getting at.

When someone from a poor background goes to a major university and then hits it big on Wall Street or Silicon Valley, we associate them with a certain demographic.

When someone from a poor background goes to a major university and then hits it big in the NFL and/or the NBA, why are they not in the same demographic?

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The NFL/NBA has hundreds to a thousand or two young millionaire minorities in the mid 20s or earlier. 

Wall Street and Silicon Valley employ hundreds of thousands so I'll bet they have the same number of young millionaire minorities in the mid 20s or earlier.  (which would be a very small percentage of their work force)

So why don't we compare these two groups.  If we did, I believe the NFL/NBA arrests are much higher than the Wall Street/Silicon Valley cohort.

What I'm driving at is we seem to want to ignore paychecks.  So if you sign a $50 million contract with the NBA or your a gang-banger of the same age of the same neighborhood, we compare them.

But if you from the same neighborhood and sell your website in Silicon Valley for $50 million, why are you in a different demographic than the NFL player?

Again, why are we ignoring paycheck in these studies?  Don't we expect those with more money to behave better than the general population?

[brandx]

So why don't we compare these two groups.  If we did, I believe the NFL/NBA arrests are much higher than the Wall Street/Silicon Valley cohort.

Because one group was raised in privilege and their role models were other people of privilege; a large number in the other group was mostly raised without role models in the inner city.

[real chili 83]

Because one group was raised in privilege and their role models were other people of privilege

How do you know that?

[Tugg Speedman]

Because one group was raised in privilege and their role models were other people of privilege; a large number in the other group was mostly raised without role models in the inner city.

Not true!! 

Many in Silicon valley were not of privilege, that is EXACTLY my point!  They came from broken homes, were on welfare themselves (the founders of WhatsApp) and faced all kinds of discrimination.

Don't refuse to see a paycheck.  Lebron is not the same, and should not be compared to, a 32 year old gang-banger from Akron (LaBron grew up poor in Akron) Jordan is not the same, and should not be compared to, a 51 year old welfare receiptant from North Carolina.  This is what you are doing

Paycheck matters, regardless of background.

[brandx]

Not true!! 

Many in Silicon valley were not of privilege, that is EXACTLY my point!  They came from broken homes, were on welfare themselves (the founders of WhatsApp) and faced all kinds of discrimination.

Don't refuse to see a paycheck.  Lebron is not the same, and should not be compared to, a 32 year old gang-banger from Akron (LaBron grew up poor in Akron) Jordan is not the same, and should not be compared to, a 51 year old welfare receiptant from North Carolina.  This is what you are doing

Paycheck matters, regardless of background.

So, if you look at the backgrounds of those in Silicon Valley, you think that the numbers would be similar to black pro athletes as far as what type of household they were raised in?

Reality check needed?

[Tugg Speedman]

So, if you look at the backgrounds of those in Silicon Valley, you think that the numbers would be similar to black pro athletes as far as what type of household they were raised in?

Reality check needed?

You're trapped and trying to change what I said.

I said I can go through Silicon Valley (and/or Wall Street) backgrounds and find a thousand "high paycheck" young male minorities that came from poor backgrounds and/or crime ridden neighborhoods (out of the hundreds of thousands that work in Silicon Valley/Wall Street).

This is the demographic to compare NFL players to.  And when you do you will find the crime rate is vastly higher among the NFL players.

When you make millions a year, you are expected to stop acting like a thug and committing crimes.  Those in Silicon Valley and/or Wall Street that hit it big do, why can't professional ball players?

[MUsoxfan]

When you make millions a year, you are expected to stop acting like a thug and committing crimes.  Those in Silicon Valley and/or Wall Street that hit it big do, why can't professional ball players?

Now you're just being silly.

People on Wall St commit crimes all the time. The crimes are just little things like bilking people out of hundreds of millions of dollars.

Also, when the guys on Wall St get busted for DUI or domestic assault nobody cares enough to publicize it

[#UnleashSean]

Someone in here is a leaning a bit to fair into "white privilege"

[ChicosBailBonds]

How do you know that?

He doesn't, but that has never mattered.