Extra practices update

[Brewtown Andy]

I think he can be in the travel party, just can't play (or have his passport, if a new one is needed, paid for by the school, etc)..

As a transfer, he's not eligible to play, so therefore, he's not allowed to travel with the team at all.  Not to Europe, not to MSG for the tournament, not even to DePaul for a road game.

[Jay Bee]

As a transfer, he's not eligible to play, so therefore, he's not allowed to travel with the team at all.  Not to Europe, not to MSG for the tournament, not even to DePaul for a road game.

I said I believe he could be in the travel party. I believe you are mistaken.

[keefe]

I said I believe he could be in the travel party. I believe you are mistaken.

I have zero knowledge of these rules but I remember Wade could practice with the team at home but could not even get on the bus to the airport. But he was a partial qualifier and not a transfer so this observation is irrelevant. But if Rowsey happened to be a partial qualifier and it was 15 years ago then this comment would have meaning.

[Jay Bee]

I have zero knowledge of these rules but I remember Wade could practice with the team at home but could not even get on the bus to the airport. But he was a partial qualifier and not a transfer so this observation is irrelevant. But if Rowsey happened to be a partial qualifier and it was 15 years ago then this comment would have meaning.

You're speaking on rules from a long time ago, as you note.

As an example, the U of Minnesota SAYS they will have their transfers on their trip to Spain. Not able to practice in the 10 practices prior to the trip... not able to play.. but they are traveling to Spain with the team and travel party to watch and go on site-seeing trips, etc.

Intriguing issue here. If** Rowsey could, maybe it's a $ issue.... maybe something more interesting.

[awilhelmscream]

I have zero knowledge of these rules but I remember Wade could practice with the team at home but could not even get on the bus to the airport. But he was a partial qualifier and not a transfer so this observation is irrelevant. But if Rowsey happened to be a partial qualifier and it was 15 years ago then this comment would have meaning.

I'm pretty positive travel with the team is disallowed as well.  I remember watching most road games during Mo Acker's year he had to sit out and he was at the Annex with a group of friends watching with the rest of us.  I asked him about it once and he specifically said he wasn't allowed to travel.  That being said, maybe the rules are different for these overseas trips?

[rocky_warrior]

I said I believe he could be in the travel party. I believe you are mistaken.

So, you're also saying you believe Wojo is wrong?

https://twitter.com/steve_wojo/status/614087885214613504

[Wojo Era]

So, you're also saying you believe Wojo is wrong?

https://twitter.com/steve_wojo/status/614087885214613504

well, that answers that

[g0lden3agle]

So, you're also saying you believe Wojo is wrong?

https://twitter.com/steve_wojo/status/614087885214613504

Mazos Burger sighting on the first reply there

[naginiF]

Mazos Burger sighting on the first reply there

Pimping Sonoran Salsa to Wojo during #askWOJO.

His twitter feed is like reading the politics board without the self righteous indignation -- it takes 3 reads to figure out what he's trying to say, then you laugh at it.

[tower912]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/320702791.html

Matty V's latest.    Wally looking good, but not surprisingly, there are growing pains.   

[GGGG]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/320702791.html

Matty V's latest.    Wally looking good, but not surprisingly, there are growing pains.   

Yep.  And I like that the report is very honest about that.  It looks as though its going to be Carter / Cheatham at point, and that Duane will be off the ball.

[tower912]

Yep.  And I like that the report is very honest about that.  It looks as though its going to be Carter / Cheatham at point, and that Duane will be off the ball.

Which will create quite a backlog at the 2-3.

[GGGG]

Which will create quite a backlog at the 2-3.

Well you have ten players, which if you went by the traditional positions, means you have a starter and a back up at each.

5: Fischer / Heldt
4: Henry / Anim
2/3: Duane / JJJ/ Cohen / Wally
1: Carter / Cheatham

Of course the reality is that these are fluid.  So even though Sacar has been playing at the 4, my guess is that Wally or Sandy might see some time backing up Henry there.

In the end, a couple players aren't going to be playing all that much as the season goes on.  It happens pretty much every year.

[tower912]

I agree that Sandy or Wally ends up seeing minutes at the 4.    I see Duane playing about 28 mpg at the 2, leaving 52 minutes split 3 ways at the 2-3. 

[GGGG]

I agree that Sandy or Wally ends up seeing minutes at the 4.    I see Duane playing about 28 mpg at the 2, leaving 52 minutes split 3 ways at the 2-3. 

OK let me play the minute game here:

Fischer (30) - Starting post
Henry (30) - Starting forward
Duane (28) - Starting guard, spot minutes at point
JJJ (24) - Starting guard
Carter (20) - Starting point
Wally (18) - Back up at forward and guard
Sandy (18) - Back up at forward and guard
Haanif (12) - Back up point...hopefully
Sacar (10) - Miscellaneous minutes at guard and forward
Heldt (10) - Back up post

[tower912]

I agree in principle.    Not by more than a couple minutes either way.  I would argue that Wally or Sandy will start in front of JJJ, but if JJJ has put a few pounds of muscle and smoothed out his jumper, then he wins.  And I suspect that we may see Heldt and Fischer on the court at the same time a few minutes a game depending on matchups.    But that is hair-splitting.     

[MUfan12]

And I suspect that we may see Heldt and Fischer on the court at the same time a few minutes a game depending on matchups.

I think it would have to be the exact right matchup for that to happen. Those two would only be slightly more mobile than the Gardner/Otule experiment.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Looking at individuals, Wally Ellenson performed well after missing the first week of practice due to illness. He knocked down a couple corner three's, adjusted well on a drive to deposit a layup and used his speed and elite leaping ability to close down the gap on a fast break foil a dunk attempt with a foul that nearly was a clean chasedown block. The shooting guard displayed good ball-handling skills and showed a solid motor on defense.

Man, I keep forgetting about Wally!

[Jay Bee]

So, you're also saying you believe Wojo is wrong?

https://twitter.com/steve_wojo/status/614087885214613504

Depends on how you interpret it. If Wojo saying Rowsey "can't make the trip" means he can't play and MU can't pay for his passport, etc, so he's not going, then he's correct. If Wojo saying Rowsey "can't make the trip" means he is barred from traveling overseas and watching all the games along with the travel party, then I believe he is wrong.

[jsglow]

It's going to be a hell of a battle at the 3.  JjJ, Sandy and Wally all in the mix.  It'll make 'em all better.  Agree with others that the development at PG may determine how far our boys can go.

[GGGG]

So is the team doing some independent study work for credit on this trip?  If so, can Rowsey be a part of that and make the trip under those circumstances?

[jsglow]

So is the team doing some independent study work for credit on this trip?  If so, can Rowsey be a part of that and make the trip under those circumstances?

You raise an interesting point.  Summer session #2 ends this week.  I'm sure the entire team is wrapping up classes right now.  Perfect timing to head overseas.  Wonder when they fly out?

[jsglow]

I agree in principle.    Not by more than a couple minutes either way.  I would argue that Wally or Sandy will start in front of JJJ, but if JJJ has put a few pounds of muscle and smoothed out his jumper, then he wins.  And I suspect that we may see Heldt and Fischer on the court at the same time a few minutes a game depending on matchups.    But that is hair-splitting.   

I'll bet that all three will be given an opportunity to start during non-con.  May the best man win.  Once that gets figured out, back-up minutes will be determined by remaining skill set.  I see JJJ as the least likely to get #4 minutes.  It'll be fun to watch them grow......hopefully.

[GGGG]

I just think JJJ is going to be a lot better this year.  Despite all the "mind games" nonsense, he was never considering leaving and apparently really bought into the off-season program.

[wadesworld]

I simply expect more consistency out of JJJ and Duane, which will mean a pretty big improvement from those 2.  I still expect him to struggle with the outside shot, but I think he'll take better shots like most upper classmen do.