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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on August 01, 2015, 12:03:53 PM
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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/golden-eagles-take-advantage-of-extra-practices-b99548175z1-320358111.html
....because ostensibly, this is still a board that talks about MU basketball.
Cheatham getting time at the point.
Amin getting time at the 4, apparently because he has a more sturdy frame.
Wojo thrilled with the timing of getting the extra practice.
Carter learning the difference between HS and college.
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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/golden-eagles-take-advantage-of-extra-practices-b99548175z1-320358111.html
....because ostensibly, this is still a board that talks about MU basketball.
Cheatham getting time at the point.
Amin getting time at the 4, apparently because he has a more sturdy frame.
Wojo thrilled with the timing of getting the extra practice.
Carter learning the difference between HS and college.
"Teams are allowed to take foreign trips once every four years" - i'm stunned that G'Town brawl in China was 4 years ago but it was.
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/320352651.html?ipad=y
More practice notes.
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/320352651.html?ipad=y
More practice notes.
Thanks for being the surrogate auto feed for Matt's articles. LOVE the depth of his coverage and the universally positive signs from the early practices.
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Marquette expects to open the Big East season at home, but it might not be as part of a New Year's Eve marathon as the conference has done each of the past two years. The Golden Eagles anticipate their conference opener will be on Dec. 30, not Dec. 31. That change could be due to the College Football Playoff, which will hold its semifinals and draw a lot of television viewership on Dec. 31.
As much as I loved the NYE Big East marathon, this is probably for the best. It would be foolish for the league and FOX to try and compete against the CFP.
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Matty's V description of Sacar makes me think of a shorter Jamil Wilson. Long, athletic and can defend the 1-4.
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My favorite thing in the article is that JjJ has improved his outside jump. Of course he could only get better
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Apparently, the position of his elbow on his jumper has been changed as well as his follow through.
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Marquette expects to open the Big East season at home, but it might not be as part of a New Year's Eve marathon as the conference has done each of the past two years. The Golden Eagles anticipate their conference opener will be on Dec. 30, not Dec. 31. That change could be due to the College Football Playoff, which will hold its semifinals and draw a lot of television viewership on Dec. 31.
As much as I loved the NYE Big East marathon, this is probably for the best. It would be foolish for the league and FOX to try and compete against the CFP.
Correct. The B1G on ESPN2 moved it's games to Dec.30 last season.
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Matt does such a great job with his articles they are content rich. I am delighted to see Luke is back in action. I thought it would take much longer to rehab from his surgery. My guess is they probably did a lot of PT prior to the surgery building up the muscles around shoulder and working the non injured side to keep in shape. A healthy Luke gives us significant upside. I saw Sandy working out in the Al around early May and he looked like he had made significant progress strength wise. Good news to hear that JJJ is working on his form. I think he is poised for a breakout season. He went through a lot last season and ended on an up trend. Duane is going to be our leader this year in many ways. This Italy trip and practices are coming at a very good time for the program.
Glad to hear the freshman are all working hard. There will be a learning curve for all of them, even Henry. My hope is that by the second half of the Big East Schedule they are all contributing and progressing.
Wally is going to be an exciting addition , lets hope during his year off he refined his overall game. If he could give us some productive intensity off the bench it would be a big plus factor.
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What Luke healthy? HE practicing in spite of his high school hand injury? How can this be? Weren't we doomed? Wasn't the sky supposed to fall on this season?
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Jay Bee, from what you saw, can Amin handle the physicality of playing spot minutes at the 4?
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Jay Bee, from what you saw, can Amin handle the physicality of playing spot minutes at the 4?
He's strong, but not tall and big enough to stop big PF's on the block.
Just depends on the match ups.. I suppose a little bit.. and certainly in nonconf... but, anything more than spot minutes would concern me.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 2h2 hours ago
A great thing about Marquette's foreign tour? Staff will be able to see how Ellenson/Fischer mesh up front. Can they guard skilled 4's?
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He's strong, but not tall and big enough to stop big PF's on the block.
Just depends on the match ups.. I suppose a little bit.. and certainly in nonconf... but, anything more than spot minutes would concern me.
Personally, my hope is that maybe Cohen can take those minutes once conference play rolls around. He does look bulked up and if he can play 10-15 minutes at the 4 it would allow Hank some time to rest.
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Surprised nobody picked up on the bit about pace of play. 24 sec shot clock in practice, no violations, and the offense looked smooth??? Looks like we're gonna run some this year and I love it
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Luke was shying away from a lot of contact last year, if he really is healthy this season he will be an absolute beast this year
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Surprised nobody picked up on the bit about pace of play. 24 sec shot clock in practice, no violations, and the offense looked smooth??? Looks like we're gonna run some this year and I love it
Excellent catch, and good prep work by the staff. I have a feeling teams that are accustomed to running fast will be ahead of the game to start this season. Teams like BYU, UNC, and Iowa State that usually have their foot on the gas won't have the same shot clock worries that some other teams already struggled with at times even with a 35-second clock. The first couple months especially will likely be a big adjustment.
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I fully expect that the first option backing up at the power forward spot will be Matt Heldt. I think all that is going on with Sacar is developing more options in case of injury or for instances where Wojo chooses to play small. Also, after Luke, HE and Matt there's no fourth big to play that spot when the team scrimmages.
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Thanks for being the surrogate auto feed for Matt's articles. LOVE the depth of his coverage and the universally positive signs from the early practices.
Indeed. And we'll get the auto feed back soon...
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Is Rowsey able to play on the trip? Guessing not..
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Is Rowsey able to play on the trip? Guessing not..
Can't even go on the trip
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Can't even go on the trip
That is what I thought. Thanks for confirming.
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Marquette expects to open the Big East season at home, but it might not be as part of a New Year's Eve marathon as the conference has done each of the past two years. The Golden Eagles anticipate their conference opener will be on Dec. 30, not Dec. 31. That change could be due to the College Football Playoff, which will hold its semifinals and draw a lot of television viewership on Dec. 31.
As much as I loved the NYE Big East marathon, this is probably for the best. It would be foolish for the league and FOX to try and compete against the CFP.
They will not ever be able to play on the 31st at home, because the Globe Trotters always play a game in the afternoon and the evening on the 31st.
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Can't even go on the trip
I think he can be in the travel party, just can't play (or have his passport, if a new one is needed, paid for by the school, etc)..
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I think he can be in the travel party, just can't play (or have his passport, if a new one is needed, paid for by the school, etc)..
As a transfer, he's not eligible to play, so therefore, he's not allowed to travel with the team at all. Not to Europe, not to MSG for the tournament, not even to DePaul for a road game.
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As a transfer, he's not eligible to play, so therefore, he's not allowed to travel with the team at all. Not to Europe, not to MSG for the tournament, not even to DePaul for a road game.
I said I believe he could be in the travel party. I believe you are mistaken.
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I said I believe he could be in the travel party. I believe you are mistaken.
I have zero knowledge of these rules but I remember Wade could practice with the team at home but could not even get on the bus to the airport. But he was a partial qualifier and not a transfer so this observation is irrelevant. But if Rowsey happened to be a partial qualifier and it was 15 years ago then this comment would have meaning.
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I have zero knowledge of these rules but I remember Wade could practice with the team at home but could not even get on the bus to the airport. But he was a partial qualifier and not a transfer so this observation is irrelevant. But if Rowsey happened to be a partial qualifier and it was 15 years ago then this comment would have meaning.
You're speaking on rules from a long time ago, as you note.
As an example, the U of Minnesota SAYS they will have their transfers on their trip to Spain. Not able to practice in the 10 practices prior to the trip... not able to play.. but they are traveling to Spain with the team and travel party to watch and go on site-seeing trips, etc.
Intriguing issue here. If** Rowsey could, maybe it's a $ issue.... maybe something more interesting.
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I have zero knowledge of these rules but I remember Wade could practice with the team at home but could not even get on the bus to the airport. But he was a partial qualifier and not a transfer so this observation is irrelevant. But if Rowsey happened to be a partial qualifier and it was 15 years ago then this comment would have meaning.
I'm pretty positive travel with the team is disallowed as well. I remember watching most road games during Mo Acker's year he had to sit out and he was at the Annex with a group of friends watching with the rest of us. I asked him about it once and he specifically said he wasn't allowed to travel. That being said, maybe the rules are different for these overseas trips?
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I said I believe he could be in the travel party. I believe you are mistaken.
So, you're also saying you believe Wojo is wrong?
https://twitter.com/steve_wojo/status/614087885214613504
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So, you're also saying you believe Wojo is wrong?
https://twitter.com/steve_wojo/status/614087885214613504
well, that answers that
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So, you're also saying you believe Wojo is wrong?
https://twitter.com/steve_wojo/status/614087885214613504
Mazos Burger sighting on the first reply there
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Mazos Burger sighting on the first reply there
Pimping Sonoran Salsa to Wojo during #askWOJO.
His twitter feed is like reading the politics board without the self righteous indignation -- it takes 3 reads to figure out what he's trying to say, then you laugh at it.
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/320702791.html
Matty V's latest. Wally looking good, but not surprisingly, there are growing pains.
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/320702791.html
Matty V's latest. Wally looking good, but not surprisingly, there are growing pains.
Yep. And I like that the report is very honest about that. It looks as though its going to be Carter / Cheatham at point, and that Duane will be off the ball.
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Yep. And I like that the report is very honest about that. It looks as though its going to be Carter / Cheatham at point, and that Duane will be off the ball.
Which will create quite a backlog at the 2-3.
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Which will create quite a backlog at the 2-3.
Well you have ten players, which if you went by the traditional positions, means you have a starter and a back up at each.
5: Fischer / Heldt
4: Henry / Anim
2/3: Duane / JJJ/ Cohen / Wally
1: Carter / Cheatham
Of course the reality is that these are fluid. So even though Sacar has been playing at the 4, my guess is that Wally or Sandy might see some time backing up Henry there.
In the end, a couple players aren't going to be playing all that much as the season goes on. It happens pretty much every year.
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I agree that Sandy or Wally ends up seeing minutes at the 4. I see Duane playing about 28 mpg at the 2, leaving 52 minutes split 3 ways at the 2-3.
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I agree that Sandy or Wally ends up seeing minutes at the 4. I see Duane playing about 28 mpg at the 2, leaving 52 minutes split 3 ways at the 2-3.
OK let me play the minute game here:
Fischer (30) - Starting post
Henry (30) - Starting forward
Duane (28) - Starting guard, spot minutes at point
JJJ (24) - Starting guard
Carter (20) - Starting point
Wally (18) - Back up at forward and guard
Sandy (18) - Back up at forward and guard
Haanif (12) - Back up point...hopefully
Sacar (10) - Miscellaneous minutes at guard and forward
Heldt (10) - Back up post
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I agree in principle. Not by more than a couple minutes either way. I would argue that Wally or Sandy will start in front of JJJ, but if JJJ has put a few pounds of muscle and smoothed out his jumper, then he wins. And I suspect that we may see Heldt and Fischer on the court at the same time a few minutes a game depending on matchups. But that is hair-splitting.
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And I suspect that we may see Heldt and Fischer on the court at the same time a few minutes a game depending on matchups.
I think it would have to be the exact right matchup for that to happen. Those two would only be slightly more mobile than the Gardner/Otule experiment.
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Looking at individuals, Wally Ellenson performed well after missing the first week of practice due to illness. He knocked down a couple corner three's, adjusted well on a drive to deposit a layup and used his speed and elite leaping ability to close down the gap on a fast break foil a dunk attempt with a foul that nearly was a clean chasedown block. The shooting guard displayed good ball-handling skills and showed a solid motor on defense.
Man, I keep forgetting about Wally!
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So, you're also saying you believe Wojo is wrong?
https://twitter.com/steve_wojo/status/614087885214613504
Depends on how you interpret it. If Wojo saying Rowsey "can't make the trip" means he can't play and MU can't pay for his passport, etc, so he's not going, then he's correct. If Wojo saying Rowsey "can't make the trip" means he is barred from traveling overseas and watching all the games along with the travel party, then I believe he is wrong.
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It's going to be a hell of a battle at the 3. JjJ, Sandy and Wally all in the mix. It'll make 'em all better. Agree with others that the development at PG may determine how far our boys can go.
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So is the team doing some independent study work for credit on this trip? If so, can Rowsey be a part of that and make the trip under those circumstances?
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So is the team doing some independent study work for credit on this trip? If so, can Rowsey be a part of that and make the trip under those circumstances?
You raise an interesting point. Summer session #2 ends this week. I'm sure the entire team is wrapping up classes right now. Perfect timing to head overseas. Wonder when they fly out?
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I agree in principle. Not by more than a couple minutes either way. I would argue that Wally or Sandy will start in front of JJJ, but if JJJ has put a few pounds of muscle and smoothed out his jumper, then he wins. And I suspect that we may see Heldt and Fischer on the court at the same time a few minutes a game depending on matchups. But that is hair-splitting.
I'll bet that all three will be given an opportunity to start during non-con. May the best man win. Once that gets figured out, back-up minutes will be determined by remaining skill set. I see JJJ as the least likely to get #4 minutes. It'll be fun to watch them grow......hopefully.
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I just think JJJ is going to be a lot better this year. Despite all the "mind games" nonsense, he was never considering leaving and apparently really bought into the off-season program.
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I simply expect more consistency out of JJJ and Duane, which will mean a pretty big improvement from those 2. I still expect him to struggle with the outside shot, but I think he'll take better shots like most upper classmen do.
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Wonder when they fly out?
On Monday (8/10).
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OK let me play the minute game here:
Fischer (30) - Starting post
Henry (30) - Starting forward
Duane (28) - Starting guard, spot minutes at point
JJJ (24) - Starting guard
Carter (20) - Starting point
Wally (18) - Back up at forward and guard
Sandy (18) - Back up at forward and guard
Haanif (12) - Back up point...hopefully
Sacar (10) - Miscellaneous minutes at guard and forward
Heldt (10) - Back up post
Heldt will back up the 5 & 4 and will see more than 10 minutes a game.
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Heldt will back up the 5 & 4 and will see more than 10 minutes a game.
I agree.
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Heldt will back up the 5 & 4 and will see more than 10 minutes a game.
Maybe. I am not sure how much he is going to back up that position and be on the floor with Luke at the same time. I think going small might be the preferred option.
But 10 is probably the floor for his mpg.
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Maybe. I am not sure how much he is going to back up that position and be on the floor with Luke at the same time. I think going small might be the preferred option.
But 10 is probably the floor for his mpg.
I could be wrong(it's happened once or twice before) but I'm betting that Heldt's ceiling is 15 mpg....any more than that and we are looking at a record similar to last year.
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I could be wrong(it's happened once or twice before) but I'm betting that Heldt's ceiling is 15 mpg....any more than that and we are looking at a record similar to last year.
I think Heldt will be better than people think. Not necessarily a scorer, but a player that will contribute a lot. Maybe a player that the average fan just does not appreciate.