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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MUsoxfan on August 26, 2015, 10:17:28 AM
Apparently two different projectiles being jettisoned into crowds off of sticks by world-class athletes is an apples to oranges comparison. Who knew...

It is.  How can that be denied?  Projectile matters.  Shape, size, color, hardness, form factor.  Where it is "jettisoned" from the crowd matters.  From a known location, or from an unknown location that can also be redirected by still another player's stick.

Now we all know.....   ;D

GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 26, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
Ignore all the facts you wish.  The hardness of the object absolutely matters, but feel free to throw that one out.  Comparing a puck to a baseball is a joke.  Comparing the game of hockey to baseball, is a joke.  The way the game is lit.  Where the action is coming from.  Etc, etc.  Enormous fallacy on your part and Pakuni's and easily taken apart.  A ten year old could do it.


Your comparisons make no sense because people are getting hurt by foul balls no matter the shape, color and hardness of the baseball.

Pakuni

Quote from: MUsoxfan on August 26, 2015, 09:57:08 AM
I'm with you on this. I was really bummed out when the nets went up, but it took me all of like 2 games to get used to it and forget they were there

Exactly.
I've sat many times behind the nets and the only way to notice them is to try to notice them. Truly a small price to pay.

The only downside is that every man who has spent a game (or more!) behind these nets has since grown breasts, lost their Adam's apple and seen an unnatural spike in their estrogen levels. Cause, you know, wussification of 'Merica.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on August 26, 2015, 10:34:04 AM
Exactly.
I've sat many times behind the nets and the only way to notice them is to try to notice them. Truly a small price to pay.

The only downside is that every man who has spent a game (or more!) behind these nets has since grown breasts, lost their Adam's apple and seen an unnatural spike in their estrogen levels. Cause, you know, wussification of 'Merica.

Yep. It's like stoopid seatbelts. And airbags. And anti-lock brakes. And high, reinforced fences at NASCAR races. And football helmets. And all that other wussy stuff that government forces on us, stuff our forefathers didn't have to endure.

So what if average life expectancy was about 60 then? It's still when men were men ... and if they weren't, they at least kept it behind closed doors.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 26, 2015, 10:31:15 AM

Your comparisons make no sense because people are getting hurt by foul balls no matter the shape, color and hardness of the baseball.

At such a low rate to make it silly that this conversation of foul pole to foul pole is even happening.

You could be hurt by whiffle ball if it hit you right.  Let me remind you, the hockey puck comparisons came from you and Pakuni, not me.  That's why I used them to show how terrible your analogies were.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MU82 on August 27, 2015, 10:50:12 PM
Yep. It's like stoopid seatbelts. And airbags. And anti-lock brakes. And high, reinforced fences at NASCAR races. And football helmets. And all that other wussy stuff that government forces on us, stuff our forefathers didn't have to endure.

So what if average life expectancy was about 60 then? It's still when men were men ... and if they weren't, they at least kept it behind closed doors.

Silly.  Unbelievably silly comparisons.

Airbags save lives...many lives and were needed because thousands of people die a year.  (note, airbags also kill people, too, but we'll let that slide for now because they do more good than harm).  ONE MLB fan has died in history from a foul ball

Seatbelts were needed because they save many lives....thousands of lives per year are lost.  When you are in a car accident, you have a good shot of serious injury or death.  ONE MLB fan has died in history from a foul ball

Reinforced fences at racing facilities.  100's of racing spectators have died over the years.  ONE MLB fan has died in history from a foul ball

So on and so forth.

Again, not against safety.  It comes with a balance.  If baseball patrons were being seriously injured or killed at alarming rates, then I'd be all for it.  The chances of being seriously hurt at a MLB game is less than being struck by lightning.  Those are the facts, not my opinion.


GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 29, 2015, 02:29:20 PM
Again, not against safety.  It comes with a balance.  If baseball patrons were being seriously injured or killed at alarming rates, then I'd be all for it.  The chances of being seriously hurt at a MLB game is less than being struck by lightning.  Those are the facts, not my opinion.


People are getting hurt at alarming rates in certain sections not protected by netting now. 

real chili 83


ChicosBailBonds


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 29, 2015, 02:48:21 PM

People are getting hurt at alarming rates in certain sections not protected by netting now.

Because idiots can't pay attention to the game like they used to.  The number of balls hit into the stands has not changed significantly in decades.  The difference is the fans inability to pay attention.  The "alarming" number is a myth.  No different statistically than years past.


real chili 83

We survived.  Went to a St. Paul Saints game. Team is owned by Mike Veeck and Bill Murray.

Lots of characters during the game, hired by the Saints to get the crowd going.  Kinda distracting. VERY DANGEROUS.

By the way, the quality of competition was great.  Tremendous athletes.

Good beer prices too.  Had a 16 oz. of 312 Ale.  $6. If this was a Twins game, that would have cost $47. 

#UnleashSean

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 12, 2015, 11:22:26 PM
Because idiots can't pay attention to the game like they used to.  The number of balls hit into the stands has not changed significantly in decades.  The difference is the fans inability to pay attention.  The "alarming" number is a myth.  No different statistically than years past.

Actually that's something that I would differ on. With the higher amount of hits, the faster throwing, faster swinging, and overall bigger players. I'm almost positive that the amount of line drives and velocity of the balls are much higher then in the 50's, 60's and 70's.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: theburreffect2 on September 12, 2015, 11:51:18 PM
Actually that's something that I would differ on. With the higher amount of hits, the faster throwing, faster swinging, and overall bigger players. I'm almost positive that the amount of line drives and velocity of the balls are much higher then in the 50's, 60's and 70's.

I don't know, have there been more hits?  I'm sure the data is out there.  Foul balls according to the site I sent on hasn't changed.  In terms of the faster stuff, I don't know on that one either.  An awful lot of guys were juicing and enormous for a number of years in the 1990's and early 2000's.

#UnleashSean


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Only the Royals, from what I can tell.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/royals-add-netting-kauffman-stadium-improve-safety-192120134--mlb.html

What a bunch of losers! They'll never win anything and the fans will never accept it!!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on February 17, 2016, 04:04:03 PM
Only the Royals, from what I can tell.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/royals-add-netting-kauffman-stadium-improve-safety-192120134--mlb.html

What a bunch of losers! They'll never win anything and the fans will never accept it!!


And I don't think it's foul pole-to-foul pole.  I think it's just out toward the end of the dugout.  And it looks like Minnesota is doing it too.

Funny how they add Minnesota in there as an afterthought.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

tower912

Detroit is doing it to the ends of the dugout. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChicosBailBonds

Dugouts is fine, going beyond dugouts is a joke.

Although people that had seats behind the dugout, where I've sat many games, some are going to be pissed because that is prime area for players to toss balls to kids, etc. 

Overall I'm just glad that the one person killed in MLB history by a fall ball in 130 years will not reach 2. 

MU82

Truly, this is a precursor to the ruination of American society.

Where's Reagan to demand: "Take down those nets!"
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: tower912 on February 17, 2016, 05:04:47 PM
Detroit is doing it to the ends of the dugout.

Detroit needs to put up bullet proof glass in parts of the city.  Chicago can assist.

GGGG

Quote from: MU82 on February 17, 2016, 10:03:05 PM
Truly, this is a precursor to the ruination of American society.

Where's Reagan to demand: "Take down those nets!"


One day we will truly miss the days where people could get severely injured by a foul ball and when top college quarterbacks could expose themselves to female trainers without reprocussion. 

Skitch


GGGG

Chicos thinks that dad is pussyfing his kid.

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