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WI inferiority Complexes

Quote from: naginiF on July 18, 2015, 11:23:20 AM
The in-game experience that has changed is the ump now tosses a new ball out at the start of every side of an inning.  They've killed Mound Ball and nobody cared.

I played Moundball at last night's Cubs/Rockies game.  Nothing has changed.

keefe

Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on July 29, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
I played Moundball

A tie on the door in Schroeder meant that Moundball action was happening...


Death on call

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: tower912 on July 29, 2015, 02:50:34 PM
A net stretching at least past the dugouts seems such a small price to pay to avoid this.

Avoid what exactly?  What are we avoiding, the 4 to 5 serious injuries caused by foul balls.  I spoke to one of my buddies at the Angels over the weekend.  He said they have more serious injuries from people walking down the stairs to their seats each year than foul balls and it isn't close.  More injuries in the parking lot by people leaving the game than anything caused by foul balls.

So exactly what are we avoiding or solving for here...exactly?

GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 29, 2015, 09:48:11 PM
Avoid what exactly?  What are we avoiding, the 4 to 5 serious injuries caused by foul balls.  I spoke to one of my buddies at the Angels over the weekend.  He said they have more serious injuries from people walking down the stairs to their seats each year than foul balls and it isn't close.  More injuries in the parking lot by people leaving the game than anything caused by foul balls.

So exactly what are we avoiding or solving for here...exactly?


People getting hurt by foul balls.

I guess I don't understand your logic.  Since more people get hurt falling down stairs, we don't need to take steps to keep more people safe from foul balls?  That's like saying since relatively few people die from terrorist attacks when compared to cancer, we shouldn't take steps to prevent another terrorist attack. 

It is a nonsensical argument.

tower912

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2015/08/22/detroit-tigers-fan-struck-foul-ball/32176517/

Game was delayed about 15 minutes.    The lady was sitting right behind the dugout.    96 mph fastball fouled off on a line.   In the picture, you can see the lump is about the size of the baseball that struck her.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChicosBailBonds

A kid got hurt the other day catching a homerun....we should put nets up in the outfield now and be reactive.  If the ball hits the net, it is a home run............

brandx

Typical reply from a five year old. Carry everything to the stupidest extreme possible.

Nobody ever said there should be nets for the outfield fences. But EVERY one else understands the difference between a line shot over the dugout and a home run.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


tower912

Well, due to the way they have played this year, I have said the same of some of those players.   Eventually, somebody is going to get killed and this is going to get done.   After a multi-million dollar payout to the family. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChicosBailBonds


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 23, 2015, 01:22:02 PM

Chicos thinks the players are a bunch of hairy wet cats.

Nope.  I think fans need to pay attention at games and that part of the game is foul balls come into the stands.  Part of the game is players reach over and catch balls that are foul.  Now, there will be people that say "one is too many"....but I'm sorry, those people shouldn't get in their car, board planes, get into a bath tub either.

While we're at it, let's put in mandatory pitch counts because someone could get hurt.  Let's make sure wooden bats never break again, cuz someone could get hurt.  Let's make sure every throw is perfect, because someone could get hurt.  Let's make sure players don't dive for balls any longer, because someone could get hurt.   Or hey, a fan could reach over for a ball from a home run or an outfielder tossing him a ball and fall to his death (it happened). 

I'm heading to the beach with my kids right now...I hope I don't get some sand in my eyes....I pray there is a warning.  I hope salt in my eyes doesn't sting....there really should be a warning.  Or heaven forbid, I could drown because nature is a beast...I hope there is a waiver for me to sign.

GGGG

If all you have is false equivalencies, you really don't have much of a point.

ChicosBailBonds

Wrigley fan hit today.


An interesting tidbit about the three highly publicized event of fans being hit.....anyone figure it out yet?

4everwarriors

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 23, 2015, 01:45:39 PM
::)

Justin Verlander still pitches?  That was the biggest news to me.


Kate still catchin' his spitball, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

naginiF

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 23, 2015, 05:02:43 PM
Wrigley fan hit today.


An interesting tidbit about the three highly publicized event of fans being hit.....anyone figure it out yet?
None of them had conceal and carry permits to properly defend themselves? ;)

ChicosBailBonds

Survived the beach today...the risk of the water, sand, sharks, riptide, etc.  Maybe because we were paying attention.


buckchuckler

If people are afraid of getting hit, or don't feel safe, there are plenty of seats out of range of foul balls.  If you don't want your kid to get hit, maybe sit in the upper deck, or in the outfield until they are old enough to bring their glove and catch the ball.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: naginiF on August 23, 2015, 07:15:10 PM
None of them had conceal and carry permits to properly defend themselves? ;)


Nope.  My wife got it, in fact she pointed it out to me.  I love that woman.  She goes to games with me, diehard fan, keeps score in the program, pays attention.  Must be the years as a Little League rep and team mom for so many teams....having a husband work for a Major League team and 5 brothers didn't hurt either.  Mothers Day, she wants to go to the game....that's her ask...I can't think of another woman that actually asks for that each Mothers Day.

Her comments today to me after the Wrigley incident, "did you notice that almost all of these people being hurt are women?  Why?  I think I know why, most of them don't even want to be there and are tagging along.  Or they don't understand the game enough and are gabbing too much to pay attention.  It is like they are foul ball magnets for injuries because they aren't paying attention or don't understand what to look for.  All you have to do is pay attention and this stuff would not happen.  You want to gab, sit in the outfield or go somewhere where paying attention doesn't matter".

I looked at her.  Smiled.   Told her I loved her and thanked my lucky stars.   I love that woman...daughter of a MU med school graduate and street smart with the best of them.


CTWarrior

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 23, 2015, 10:21:56 PM

Nope.  My wife got it, in fact she pointed it out to me.  I love that woman.  She goes to games with me, diehard fan, keeps score in the program, pays attention.  Must be the years as a Little League rep and team mom for so many teams....having a husband work for a Major League team and 5 brothers didn't hurt either.  Mothers Day, she wants to go to the game....that's her ask...I can't think of another woman that actually asks for that each Mothers Day.

Her comments today to me after the Wrigley incident, "did you notice that almost all of these people being hurt are women?  Why?  I think I know why, most of them don't even want to be there and are tagging along.  Or they don't understand the game enough and are gabbing too much to pay attention.  It is like they are foul ball magnets for injuries because they aren't paying attention or don't understand what to look for.  All you have to do is pay attention and this stuff would not happen.  You want to gab, sit in the outfield or go somewhere where paying attention doesn't matter".

I looked at her.  Smiled.   Told her I loved her and thanked my lucky stars.   I love that woman...daughter of a MU med school graduate and street smart with the best of them.
I take a baseball trip every year and try to sit behind the dugout on the shade side of the field.  My wife tags along (in return for her owning the itinerary for most of the vacation).  I tell her she has to be alert whenever a right hander is hitting when we are on the first base side and a lefty on the third base side.

Incidentally, we had a lucky great trip this year.  We saw Iwakuma's no-hitter in Seattle, then saw Bumgarner throw a 3 hit shutout with 14 Ks and hit a double and a homer in SF, and saw the A's come back from a 4-1 deficit in the 8th to beat the Dodgers in extras.  Oakland reminded me of Yankee Stadium in the late 70s with all the fights and drunks.  You don't see that much anymore.  My wife and son were appalled but it brought me back to my late teens.  They threw about half the row two rows behind me out of the park for unruly behavior by the 5th inning and there was a good 20 person brawl across the field from us.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

CTWarrior

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 23, 2015, 10:21:56 PM
Her comments today to me after the Wrigley incident, "did you notice that almost all of these people being hurt are women?  Why?  I think I know why, most of them don't even want to be there and are tagging along...

One of my all-time favorite radio calls was by Walt Frazier when a woman sitting in one of the first couple rows got conked by a basketball during a Knicks game.  Clyde said something like, 'Typical woman, running her mouth and not paying attention to the game..."
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Benny B

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 22, 2015, 11:51:52 AM
If the ball hits the net, it is a home run............

Well, that pretty much describes Wrigley Field right there.

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on August 23, 2015, 10:21:56 PM
Her comments today to me after the Wrigley incident, "did you notice that almost all of these people being hurt are women?  Why?

But if you eliminated the young, attractive women not paying attention to the game from Wrigley Field, then what would the Cubs broadcast show between pitches, between batters, during warmup pitches, before cutting to commercial, coming back from commercial, in the bumpers, visits to the mound, during the stretch, after the stretch, while a foul ball slices out of play, while there's a streaker on the field, while there's a squirrel on the field, while the pope is on the field, during replays, during rain delays, during brawls, and randomly while the ball is in play?  Cubs fans would actually have to watch a baseball game, and that's just cruel.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

buckchuckler

I think this is going to happen.  They will probably extend from dugout to dugout (I really don't think there is need to go any farther than that) people will be pissed at first, then realize it doesn't make much difference or they will get acclimated to it and it won't be a big deal. 

GooooMarquette

Quote from: buckchuckler on August 24, 2015, 12:00:55 PM

I think this is going to happen.  They will probably extend from dugout to dugout (I really don't think there is need to go any farther than that) people will be pissed at first, then realize it doesn't make much difference or they will get acclimated to it and it won't be a big deal.


The biggest reaction will be on this board.

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