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keefe

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on June 25, 2015, 09:31:20 PM
Not sure what dentists issues is a reference too but heard he has both asthma and hip problems.

His asthma and hip problems are nothing compared with the savagery he endured at the hands of a hometown dentist


Death on call

4everwarriors

Any y'all know if any other #30 picks in the draft ever amounted to more than chit?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Markusquette

Hey nice to see Hilliard get drafted.  Didn't expect that.

4everwarriors

#30=first round selection=guaranteed 3 year contract=Never Broke Again
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUfan12

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 25, 2015, 10:28:36 PM
#30=first round selection=guaranteed 3 year contract=Never Broke Again

He landed in a great situation. No pressure right away to contribute, so can hone his perimeter skills. He can play 2-4 which fits perfectly into what GSW runs.

Falling to the end of the first could be a blessing in disguise.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: WithoutBias on June 25, 2015, 09:58:02 PM
hey little boy, try continue reading the whole article.  the VERY NEXT SENTENCE..."Now it appears they would have to select him with the fourth pick to secure his services, because the Kings, which own the sixth pick, are also interested."

do you want to keep embarrassing yourself or...?

also look into the 2nd article i provided you with.  do you want any other articles?

God you are dumb. No wonder everyone piled on your stupid mateen cleaves post.

I quoted the second article lmao. Then you reply with a sentence from the first. And both say how the Knicks would trade back. AS WAS REPORTED ALL DAY.

Kaminsky was never going to go 4th, never ever, ever. EVER.

And news flash...6th isn't 4th. Not that he was going to go to the Kings anyways, they took Callie stein over him even lol. Another pick everyone trashed.

The TEAM picking 4th was interested, not for the 4th pick, have you watched any of the draft today?
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Quote from: WolverineWarrior85 on June 25, 2015, 09:57:05 PM
The next time Michael Jordan makes a good draft pick will be the first time he makes a good draft pick.

I'm not really a Hornets fan, but I do live in NC now and I'd rather them win than lose.

I was thrilled that Winslow actually dropped to their draft slot ...

And couldn't believe it when they passed on him to draft Kaminsky.

Effen amazing.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ChicosBailBonds

Did Vander get picked?

withoutbias

#58
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on June 25, 2015, 10:51:23 PM
God you are dumb. No wonder everyone piled on your stupid mateen cleaves post.

I quoted the second article lmao. Then you reply with a sentence from the first. And both say how the Knicks would trade back. AS WAS REPORTED ALL DAY.

Kaminsky was never going to go 4th, never ever, ever. EVER.

And news flash...6th isn't 4th. Not that he was going to go to the Kings anyways, they took Callie stein over him even lol. Another pick everyone trashed.

The TEAM picking 4th was interested, not for the 4th pick, have you watched any of the draft today?

you are really going to continue embarrassing yourself aren't you? so you quoted my post that had the first article, but you used a quote from my second post? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

i said there were RUMORS of Kaminsky going as high as 4. just like there were RUMORS of christian wood being a first rounder. did i say he would go 4 overall? nope. you asked for one link where kaminsky was rumored to possibly go as high as 4. i provided 2. I'll ask again, do you want more? or have you had enough embarrassment? it says they were INTERESTED IN TRADING BACK but that they NOW HAVE COME TO CONSIDER HIM AT 4. it's a pretty simple concept.

here, since you clearly struggle with reading comprehension i'll quote the full paragraph and bold the exact sentence that says the knicks were looking at taking kaminsky AT FOUR (not trading back). from the article in the first post:

"Frank Kaminsky won't last past the Hornets at ninth and could go as high as fourth to the Knicks, reports ESPN's Chad Ford.



that's the very first sentence of the entire article. "could go as high as fourth to the knicks." note: fourth to the knicks. NOT "could go to the knicks if they trade down."

from the article in the second post:


"That's why one of the topics of discussion at the Knicks meeting was bucking conventional wisdom, passing on guards D'Angelo Russell and/or Emmanuel Mudiay and taking Kaminsky — whose versatility makes him a natural fit in the triangle offense — with the fourth overall pick, two league sources told Sporting News.
If they do pass on the two guards expected to be on the board, the Knicks are also considering Willie Cauley-Stein and Justise WInslow with the No. 4 pick, though Cauley-Stein appears to be slipping."

in case you're struggling to read agin, it specifically said they had a meeting about selecting kaminsky specifically with the fourth pick.

so again, you asked for one link. there are 2. do you want more? or does 2 provide enough for your request for 1? do you want to continue to be embarrassed?

but hey, dekker almost snuck into that top 10 and into a better draft spot than kaminsky like you said he would! LMAO!

now would be a good time to go to bed. it's past your bedtime and going into hiding for a little while might do you some good. you couldn't be proven any more wrong, yet you continue to dig your own grave deeper and deeper.

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 25, 2015, 10:25:58 PM
Any y'all know if any other #30 picks in the draft ever amounted to more than chit?

I can think of one fairly recent #30 pick that's doing pretty well for himself.
Twitter - @brewtownandy
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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: WithoutBias on June 25, 2015, 11:53:08 PM
you are really going to continue embarrassing yourself aren't you? so you quoted my post that had the first article, but you used a quote from my second post? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

i said there were RUMORS of Kaminsky going as high as 4. just like there were RUMORS of christian wood being a first rounder. did i say he would go 4 overall? nope. you asked for one link where kaminsky was rumored to possibly go as high as 4. i provided 2. I'll ask again, do you want more? or have you had enough embarrassment? it says they were INTERESTED IN TRADING BACK but that they NOW HAVE COME TO CONSIDER HIM AT 4. it's a pretty simple concept.

here, since you clearly struggle with reading comprehension i'll quote the full paragraph and bold the exact sentence that says the knicks were looking at taking kaminsky AT FOUR (not trading back). from the article in the first post:

"Frank Kaminsky won't last past the Hornets at ninth and could go as high as fourth to the Knicks, reports ESPN's Chad Ford.



that's the very first sentence of the entire article. "could go as high as fourth to the knicks." note: fourth to the knicks. NOT "could go to the knicks if they trade down."

from the article in the second post:


"That's why one of the topics of discussion at the Knicks meeting was bucking conventional wisdom, passing on guards D'Angelo Russell and/or Emmanuel Mudiay and taking Kaminsky — whose versatility makes him a natural fit in the triangle offense — with the fourth overall pick, two league sources told Sporting News.
If they do pass on the two guards expected to be on the board, the Knicks are also considering Willie Cauley-Stein and Justise WInslow with the No. 4 pick, though Cauley-Stein appears to be slipping."

in case you're struggling to read agin, it specifically said they had a meeting about selecting kaminsky specifically with the fourth pick.

so again, you asked for one link. there are 2. do you want more? or does 2 provide enough for your request for 1? do you want to continue to be embarrassed?

but hey, dekker almost snuck into that top 10 and into a better draft spot than kaminsky like you said he would! LMAO!

now would be a good time to go to bed. it's past your bedtime and going into hiding for a little while might do you some good. you couldn't be proven any more wrong, yet you continue to dig your own grave deeper and deeper.

You just don't get it. As the other quotes have show.they were only going to do it if they could trade back. He was never going 4th. It's really that fucking simple. It was reported all day. Said on the draft show and then said again when every trashed the hornets pick which was at least semi reasonable.

Each of those articles still mentions the simple fact, the Knicks interest stemmed from trading down
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on June 26, 2015, 12:29:08 AM
You just don't get it. As the other quotes have show.they were only going to do it if they could trade back. He was never going 4th. It's really that unnatural carnal knowledgeing simple. It was reported all day. Said on the draft show and then said again when every trashed the hornets pick which was at least semi reasonable.

Each of those articles still mentions the simple fact, the Knicks interest stemmed from trading down

So...you asked for articles that prove his point, he provides them, and your response is to dismiss them and claim he doesn't get it.

You were right, Knicks didn't take him at 4th. But you were wrong about there not being rumors about the Knicks taking him at 4th. Both Chad Ford and Sporting News said exactly that. They may have been crazy rumors but they did exist and they came from legitimate respected sources. Just man up and admit you were wrong, but enjoy the fact that you knew enough to know that the Frank wouldn't go that high.

But bad call on Dekker. I didn't see any mock drafts where Dekker was above Kaminsky. I'm sure there were one or two but everyone knew Kaminsky was going in the top 10 and Dekker was more 15-25 material.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Tugg Speedman

NBA Draft 2015: Notable Big East players go undrafted

http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2015/6/26/8849731/nba-draft-2015-undrafted-big-east-henton-pinkston-stainbrook-trawick-harrison

There were, unfortunately, a number of Big East players who went undrafted on Thursday night.

The 2015 NBA Draft didn't play too kindly to a conference that had a streak of 16 consecutive NBA Drafts in which a player from the league was taken in the lottery, and a league that had also never gone its entire history without producing a 1st round pick.

Thus, the road continues on for the following notable players:

Kameron Woods (Butler Bulldogs)
Jabril Trawick (Georgetown Hoyas)
Joshua Smith (Georgetown Hoyas)
Matt Carlino (Marquette Golden Eagles)
LaDontae Henton (Providence Friars
D'Angelo Harrison (St. John's Red Storm)
Phil Greene IV (St. John's Red Storm)
JayVaughn Pinkston (Villanova Wildcats)
Dee Davis (Xavier Musketeers)
Matt Stainbrook (Xavier Musketeers)

Villanova's Darrun Hilliard and the St. John's Red Storm's Sir'Dominic Pointer were the lone Big East selections, with Hilliard going 38th overall to the Detroit Pistons, while Pointer was picked with the 53rd overall pick by the NBA's Eastern Conference Champions, the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Best of luck to these guys in whatever comes next for them.

Tugg Speedman

Cliff Alexander goes from top-five recruit to undrafted in one year

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/cliff-alexander-goes-from-top-five-recruit-to-undrafted-in-one-year-061802287.html

In the first 11 NBA drafts since Rivals.com began ranking high school basketball prospects, ex-Tennessee wing Scotty Hopson had been the only top-five recruit to go unselected.

Hopson finally has company on that not-so-illustrious list.

Sixty prospects heard their names called during Thursday night's NBA draft, however, former Kansas big man Cliff Alexander wasn't one of them. The consensus top-five recruit ranked ahead of Karl-Anthony Towns and D'Angelo Russell only a year ago will now have to try to latch on with an NBA franchise as an undrafted free agent and win a roster spot in training camp.


Pakuni

#64
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 25, 2015, 10:28:36 PM
#30=first round selection=guaranteed 3 year contract=Never Broke Again

Yup.
Guys who sign NBA contracts never go broke.
Except for the 60 percent of them do within five years of leaving the game.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/story/2012-04-22/Pro-athletes-and-financial-trouble/54465664/1

Bottom line, your guy probably should have stayed in school. Yeah, he got drafted, and yeah, he's getting a guaranteed deal. But his impatience cost him a lot of money.
2015 #30 pick contract = $2.95 million
2016 #20 pick contract = $4.07 million

As for landing in a great situation, meh. Draymond Green and Harrison Barnes are going nowhere fast. Barring injury or a huge reversal of form, Looney is destined for 10-15 minutes per game at best over the next four years.

GGGG

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 25, 2015, 10:48:34 AM
I have a substantial wager with Ners on whether DJ Newbill's name is called tonight. I said no.


You gonna be able to collect on this?

bilsu

Quote from: Heisenberg on June 26, 2015, 05:54:32 AM
NBA Draft 2015: Notable Big East players go undrafted

http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2015/6/26/8849731/nba-draft-2015-undrafted-big-east-henton-pinkston-stainbrook-trawick-harrison

There were, unfortunately, a number of Big East players who went undrafted on Thursday night.

The 2015 NBA Draft didn't play too kindly to a conference that had a streak of 16 consecutive NBA Drafts in which a player from the league was taken in the lottery, and a league that had also never gone its entire history without producing a 1st round pick.

Thus, the road continues on for the following notable players:

Kameron Woods (Butler Bulldogs)
Jabril Trawick (Georgetown Hoyas)
Joshua Smith (Georgetown Hoyas)
Matt Carlino (Marquette Golden Eagles)
LaDontae Henton (Providence Friars
D'Angelo Harrison (St. John's Red Storm)
Phil Greene IV (St. John's Red Storm)
JayVaughn Pinkston (Villanova Wildcats)
Dee Davis (Xavier Musketeers)
Matt Stainbrook (Xavier Musketeers)

Villanova's Darrun Hilliard and the St. John's Red Storm's Sir'Dominic Pointer were the lone Big East selections, with Hilliard going 38th overall to the Detroit Pistons, while Pointer was picked with the 53rd overall pick by the NBA's Eastern Conference Champions, the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Best of luck to these guys in whatever comes next for them.
It is not the same league. Add back Notre Dame and Louisviille and the league would of had 3 or 4 first rounders.

withoutbias

#67
Quote from: Pakuni on June 26, 2015, 07:27:30 AM
Yup.
Guys who sign NBA contracts never go broke.
Except for the 60 percent of them do within five years of leaving the game.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/story/2012-04-22/Pro-athletes-and-financial-trouble/54465664/1

Bottom line, your guy probably should have stayed in school. Yeah, he got drafted, and yeah, he's getting a guaranteed deal. But his impatience cost him a lot of money.
2015 #30 pick contract = $2.95 million
2016 #20 pick contract = $4.07 million

As for landing in a great situation, meh. Draymond Green and Harrison Barnes are going nowhere fast. Barring injury or a huge reversal of form, Looney is destined for 10-15 minutes per game at best over the next four years.

huh?  how about this one:

2015 #30 pick in 2015: $2.95M
2016 #20 pick in 2015: $0.00

by next year his salary will be close to what the #20 pick in next year's draft will make, and he will be a year closer to a fa contract.

and that situation is exactly what looney (at least should have) hoped for.  he's not a polished, finished product.  he's not ready to be a huge contributor in the league.  so have absolutely 0 pressure on him, learn from a guy whose role is identical to what looney's will be (green), and possibly win a ring or 2 in the process.  perfect situation.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: bilsu on June 26, 2015, 07:42:43 AM
It is not the same league. Add back Notre Dame and Louisviille and the league would of had 3 or 4 first rounders.

Ellenson will get the league back into the first round, and possibly a lottery pick.

4everwarriors

#69
Do the name Cliff Alexander ring a bell, hey?

BTW, I'll see your hundred, and raise you 5 hundred, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Groin_pull

Quote from: keefe on June 25, 2015, 10:17:57 PM
His asthma and hip problems are nothing compared with the savagery he endured at the hands of a hometown dentist

Yeah, what was going on? Was he wearing braces or are his teeth really grey?

ChicosBailBonds

Guard's game.....from one of the teams that has always had a dominant center.


And the outfit.....



willie warrior

WTF happened? Russel gets drafted at 2 and the elite game changer does not even get a sniff? If a guy is an elite game changer and a great defensive stopper, WTF happened here? After all, the NBA is going small and he was a great rebounder for a PG. Obviously, the NBA staffs know nothing! Start a hash tag: Sign Derrick as a Free Agent.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Pakuni

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on June 26, 2015, 08:50:14 AM
Guard's game.....from one of the teams that has always had a dominant center.

Guard's game .... 7 of top 12 picks are 6'10" or taller.

JuniorCardigan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 25, 2015, 10:25:58 PM
Any y'all know if any other #30 picks in the draft ever amounted to more than chit?

David Lee definitely. Off the top of my head besides Butler I don't know many more than that.

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