So will we have Triple Crown Winner on Saturday?

[Mutaman]

I didn't actually bet the race, just called it correctly.

Had a nice day of betting out of Arlington though, hit four tris that all paid over $150.

Good going. Nothing better than a good day at the track. I passed going to Belmont because I didn't want to deal with the LIRR. Now I wish I had gone.

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Good going. Nothing better than a good day at the track. I passed going to Belmont because I didn't want to deal with the LIRR. Now I wish I had gone.

Really? Damn, so worth it.

[Mutaman]

Really? Damn, so worth it.

i saw the Slew and Affirmed do it live and in person. Affirmed and Alydar is still the greatest sporting event I have ever witnessed and I was there to see Reggie's "triple".  But I had to wait 4 hours for a train after the Smarty Jones affair and I couldn't handle that again. Seeing a third triple would have been nice though. 

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i saw the Slew and Affirmed do it live and in person. Affirmed and Alydar is still the greatest sporting event I have ever witnessed and I was there to see Reggie's "triple".  But I had to wait 4 hours for a train after the Smarty Jones affair and I couldn't handle that again. Seeing a third triple would have been nice though. 

Even more damns, first triple crown I've been alive for.

Watched at a birthday party unfortunately, lots of dumb comments about how he wouldn't stay up and how the horses behind him are running better because they're heads are bobbing.

[Mutaman]

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Even more damns, first triple crown I've been alive for.

Watched at a birthday party unfortunately, lots of dumb comments about how he wouldn't stay up and how the horses behind him are running better because they're heads are bobbing.

I love the way he relaxes on the lead, waits for the others to catch up, and then shifts into a another gear. He just glides. Poetry in motion.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Turns out our insane (is there any other word) president thinks that he is responsible for the Triple Crown win:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/06/you-know-obama-is-hard-up-for-accomplishments-when.php

"Another accomplishment -- Obama first President to have a Triple Crown winner since Carter"

[jesmu84]

Turns out our insane (is there any other word) president thinks that he is responsible for the Triple Crown win:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/06/you-know-obama-is-hard-up-for-accomplishments-when.php

"Another accomplishment -- Obama first President to have a Triple Crown winner since Carter"

Keep that crap on the politics board

[WellsstreetWanderer]

What !!? Are you mad that he beat Hillary to the claim?

[Benny B]

What !!? Are you mad that he beat Hillary to the claim?

If anyone is responsible, it's Hillary, not Obama.  Hillary lives in New York, and [insert horse joke about Hillary here].

[Benny B]

BTW - For those of you who haven't seen it, you need to watch Secretariat's run at the Belmont, and if you have seen it, re-watch it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfCMtaNiMDM

Congratulations to AP on being the first in a generation to win the Triple Crown, but how Secretariat did it in 1973 was nothing short of amazing.

[GGGG]

Secretariat would have beat AP by 15 lengths. 

[tower912]

Secretariat would have beat any horse in my lifetime by 15 lengths.   That in no way diminishes the accomplishment of AP.

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Secretariat would have beat AP by 15 lengths.  

13 lengths.

In fact, AP would have been the closest horse to Secretariat if all the Triple Crown winners holograms ran simultaneously.

[GGGG]

13 lengths.

In fact, AP would have been the closest horse to Secretariat if all the Triple Crown winners holograms ran simultaneously.

Thank you...and wow.

[Mutaman]

13 lengths.

In fact, AP would have been the closest horse to Secretariat if all the Triple Crown winners holograms ran simultaneously.

Not sure if this is accurate. AP ran the sixth fastest Belmont. Easy Goer, AP Indy, and  Risen Star ran Faster. Affirmed ran about the same time but that was with Alydar looking him in the eye all around the track, AP got loose on an easy pace.

Of course the speed of the track is key and Andy Beyer says:

"And American Pharoah's performance in the Belmont was not of superhorse quality, no matter what millions of viewers might have thought as they watched him drawing away to win by 51/2 lengths. He ran 11/2 miles in 2:26.65 on the same card that a fair-to-middling group of older stakes horses covered the distance only 0.48 seconds slower. It was certainly a good effort: His Beyer Speed Figure of 105 was the best in the Belmont since 2007 but still a bit below the historical norm for the race. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/american-pharoah-deserves-his-place-in-horse-racing-history/2015/06/07/80760af8-0d26-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html

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Not sure if this is accurate. AP ran the sixth fastest Belmont. Easy Goer, AP Indy, and  Risen Star ran Faster. Affirmed ran about the same time but that was with Alydar looking him in the eye all around the track, AP got loose on an easy pace.

Of course the speed of the track is key and Andy Beyer says:

"And American Pharoah's performance in the Belmont was not of superhorse quality, no matter what millions of viewers might have thought as they watched him drawing away to win by 51/2 lengths. He ran 11/2 miles in 2:26.65 on the same card that a fair-to-middling group of older stakes horses covered the distance only 0.48 seconds slower. It was certainly a good effort: His Beyer Speed Figure of 105 was the best in the Belmont since 2007 but still a bit below the historical norm for the race. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/american-pharoah-deserves-his-place-in-horse-racing-history/2015/06/07/80760af8-0d26-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/american-pharoahs-a-superhorse-but-hes-no-secretariat/

[4everwarriors]

$100k x 100 jerk offs = $10 mil. horse. Sounds like high priced prostitution. Hope he's worth it, hey?

[StillAWarrior]

Not sure if this is accurate. AP ran the sixth fastest Belmont.  Easy Goer, AP Indy, and  Risen Star ran Faster.

It is accurate.  The stat was that it was second fastest among Triple Crown winners.  The horses you listed didn't win the Triple Crown.

[Mutaman]

It is accurate.  The stat was that it was second fastest among Triple Crown winners.  The horses you listed didn't win the Triple Crown.

You're right. I missed that part of it. He did run the second fastest Belmont of all Triple Crown Winners.

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http://deadspin.com/this-is-what-it-would-look-like-if-american-pharoah-rac-1709988755

[Benny B]

http://deadspin.com/this-is-what-it-would-look-like-if-american-pharoah-rac-1709988755

Comment #1:  Captain Gladys Stoatpamphlet -- "At last, video evidence that 2:24 is faster than 2:26."


Wow... Twice a Prince's time in 1973 would have showed at this year's Belmont.  So much for the theory that competition today is much better than it was in the early 70s.

Again, no disrespect to American Pharoah -- he's my vote for ESPN's athlete of the year... I don't care if Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck throws for 63 TDs and rushes for another 28 TDs -- but there's a reason that Bojack Horseman idolizes Secretariat.