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GooooMarquette

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
Sounds like the original statement should have been more clear, or simply stated what was the profit generated to eliminate any ambiguity.  ;)

But universities are "non-profits"...or at least the IRS seems to think so....   ;)

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 15, 2015, 09:54:17 AM
There are really three ways for schools to get into a "Power 5" conference these days:

1. Be good at football.  (eg, Nebraska, TCU)
2. Be reasonably close to a large television market  (eg, Rutgers, Colorado)
3. Pray for conference turmoil that leaves an opening somewhere (eg, WVU, Missouri)

#1 is really the only thing that UConn can reasonably control.  (Though it hasn't worked for Boise.)  But lacrosse or basketball success isn't going to get them the bid.  Only football success would work from an on field performance point of view.

#2 is probably out the window with the ACC taking BC and the B10 taking Rutgers.  

#3 is not likely unless the B10 looks to expand shortly with its television contract due.  The B12 isn't going to be looking to UConn if they want 12 members.

UConn technically is in the New York City TV market as Fairfield County Connecticut is part of the Nielsen NYC coverage area so they got that going for them.

However,
#2 - From the ACC perspective they probably feel they got NYC covered with Syracuse even though they are not technically in the NYC TV coverage area?
#2 - With Rutgers they would help sandwich NYC making the Big 10 even bigger in NYC, but I recall Chicos posting awhile ago that the Big 10 got the additional subscriber fees from the Rutgers addition already from the NYC cable operators so I suppose how much more could they really expect to extract?

They are just stuck between a rock & hard place.

Interestingly, this was UConn's first year in their the upgrade to NCAA hockey as a member of Hockey East.  They were the top attendance leader in Hockey East also.  Another team for the Big 10 hockey league?
So the upgrade for lacrosse is next.

Windyplayer


Eldon

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
I have no idea.  What I do know is in the history of the Big Ten, no school has been admitted that wasn't part of the AAU at the time of it's approval to come in. Furthermore, all existing Big Ten schools were also members of the AAU.  The only conference in the USA to be able to claim this, that includes the Ivy League.  It's important to the Big Ten presidents.

Last I checked (and it's been some time), Notre Dame was not AAU and yet it was my impression that the B10 wanted them nevertheless.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Eldon on April 15, 2015, 11:46:31 AM
Last I checked (and it's been some time), Notre Dame was not AAU and yet it was my impression that the B10 wanted them nevertheless.

ND is still not a member.

My sense is that AAU membership is strongly preferred and a good excuse for the conference to choose one school (Rutgers) over another (UConn), but no longer an absolute requirement.  If ND called the B10 today, they'd be in the conference tomorrow.  And the B10 doesn't seem to be in any hurry to boot Nebraska.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Eldon on April 15, 2015, 11:46:31 AM
Last I checked (and it's been some time), Notre Dame was not AAU and yet it was my impression that the B10 wanted them nevertheless.

They are not AAU, and if you will recall there was a strong push by many of the universities NOT to admit them because of that very reason.  Do I think they would take them ultimately?  Yes, but that didn't stop many of the academics to push back saying they were not worthy.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-06-13/sports/ct-spt-0614-aau-big-ten-expansion--20100613_1_aau-nebraska-chancellor-harvey-perlman-big-ten-members

PaintTouches

Quote from: bradley center bat on April 15, 2015, 07:48:17 AM
Football always makes more than basketball. Their TV deal is $2 million per year and they got all the C-7 credits from the old Big East.

I know this has nothing to do with the thread or the current AAU discussion, but the AAC did not get all of the C-7 credits. Probably the biggest misconception from the conference realignment.

Litehouse

Quote from: pux90mex on April 15, 2015, 03:35:04 PM
I know this has nothing to do with the thread or the current AAU discussion, but the AAC did not get all of the C-7 credits. Probably the biggest misconception from the conference realignment.
Have you seen anything definitive on this?  I've seen it reported different ways, but nothing concrete.

Groin_pull

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 14, 2015, 11:34:55 PM
Rutgers is a member of the AAU, that's big stuff to the Big Ten.  UCONN is not.  Rutgers also grabs a TV market, even if they aren't a big draw, that UCONN does not.  That helps with subscriber rates that the Big Ten could force on cable and satellite providers.

Please, I'm begging....not another thread about the Big 10's "incredible" academics. Pretty, pretty please.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Groin_pull on April 15, 2015, 06:29:04 PM
Please, I'm begging....not another thread about the Big 10's "incredible" academics. Pretty, pretty please.

They have solid academics, but most are at the research level, not necessarily at the undergrad level. 

Lennys Tap

#85
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2015, 12:33:13 PM
They are not AAU, and if you will recall there was a strong push by many of the universities NOT to admit them because of that very reason.  Do I think they would take them ultimately?  Yes, but that didn't stop many of the academics to push back saying they were not worthy.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-06-13/sports/ct-spt-0614-aau-big-ten-expansion--20100613_1_aau-nebraska-chancellor-harvey-perlman-big-ten-members

Notre Dame is not worthy to rub academic shoulders with Nebraska, Indiana and Michigan State? Right.

PaintTouches

Quote from: Leehouse on April 15, 2015, 04:07:12 PM
Have you seen anything definitive on this?  I've seen it reported different ways, but nothing concrete.

Yup. I'll have a story up sometime this month.

The Lens

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 15, 2015, 08:15:08 PM
Notre Dame is not worthy to rub academic shoulders with Nebraska, Indiana and Michigan State? Right.

I wouldn't put IU in that group.  I would insert Minnesota and maybe Illinois, and definitely Iowa.
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History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Lens on April 15, 2015, 09:16:15 PM
I wouldn't put IU in that group.  I would insert Minnesota and maybe Illinois, and definitely Iowa.

Illinois is much more selective than Indiana. Illinois high school students rejected by the home school often end up in Bloomington or Iowa City.

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Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 15, 2015, 09:34:12 PM
Illinois is much more selective than Indiana. Illinois high school students rejected by the home school often end up in Bloomington or Iowa City.

Iowa and UI are the Big Ten safety schools.

I didn't even bother with Illinois, mostly because Champaign sucks, but I also had no chance at getting in.

The Lens

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 15, 2015, 09:34:12 PM
Illinois is much more selective than Indiana. Illinois high school students rejected by the home school often end up in Bloomington or Iowa City.

Well Illinois students are worth a lot more to IU than U of I.  That out of state tuition can always add a few points to the GPA.  That's not unique to IU.  
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Dawson Rental

Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 15, 2015, 07:26:29 AM
Nebraska isn't either....

But they were for a long time during which most of the romance with the Big Ten happened.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 15, 2015, 08:33:57 AM

UMass does not have a conference affiliation after the 2015 year for football.  The MAC booted them.  There really is no motivation for a conference to take a middling football program like UMass or UConn.

Unless that conference is the AAC.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

ChicosBailBonds

#93
Quote from: LEETM on April 15, 2015, 09:40:59 PM
Iowa and UI are the Big Ten safety schools.

I didn't even bother with Illinois, mostly because Champaign sucks, but I also had no chance at getting in.

This sounds about right to me, until I looked it up and didn't realize average test scores are higher than Purdue, Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan State, Michigan at least according to this site...no idea if this site is any good, but does call into question the safety school notion.   http://www.studentsreview.com/big_ten_compare.html

Never applied to a Big Ten school for undergraduate, just graduate schools where they tend to rank very highly in most programs.  

The AAU membership is about premier research institutions, of which Notre Dame is not, but each Big Ten school is....sans Nebraska now.

keefe

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 15, 2015, 11:14:30 PM
...no idea if this site is any good

C'mon, Jams. "Student Reviews..."


Death on call

MU Fan in Connecticut

I found this on the web with a Brewcity77 mention.




http://collegespun.com/college-spun-2/heres-where-the-uconn-to-the-big-east-rumor-originated

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2015 10:48 am
Here's Where The UConn-To-The-Big-East Rumor Originated

by Matt Lombardi

It's been just over a week since the men's college basketball season ended, which, apparently, means that it's been just enough time to start up the conference realignment rumor mill. UConn is the latest school to be subjected to speculation, though, as you'll see below, there doesn't seem to be much truth to what's being passed around.

Tuesday night, a former CBS News editor named Sam Albano, who attended Saint John's back in the 1970s, dropped an odd tweet about UConn potentially wanting to talk to the Big East presidents about potential membership. Albano, who cited "sources", has provided no other information about his tweet. Some have speculated that the rumors might concern lacrosse, which obviously, wouldn't be a big deal.


So @UConnHuskies calling @BIGEAST presidents 4 an audience bout membership in #BigEast #AmericanAthleticConference @KevinMcNamara33

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@MJP1313 @UConnHuskies @KevinMcNamara33 not good news 4 the #AAC. Still don't c @BIGEAST taking em unless @FOXSports steps in

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@KevinMcNamara33 @UConnHuskies Reliable sources

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@brewcity77 @UConnHuskies @BIGEAST @KevinMcNamara33 nothin 2 get giddy bout.@BIGEAST perfectw/ 10 teams & nothin in common w/ other schools

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@BasketballOP I don't need 2 do anything, capece?

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


Though there doesn't seem to be much here, Albano's tweets have been circulating on Twitter, finding their way to Reddit and numerous UConn message boards. The biggest reason? If there is any truth to the rumor, it remains to be seen what would happen to UConn's football program, considering the Big East doesn't have football as a sport.

Now you know where the rumor originated, and why it probably doesn't need to be taken seriously. We're not sure if that is going to make UConn fans feel any better, though.


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: keefe on April 16, 2015, 03:27:56 AM
C'mon, Jams. "Student Reviews..."


That's why I asked....is the data in there based on student input?  I don't know.  Never applied as an undergraduate to a Big Ten school.

source?

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2015, 04:52:04 PM

That's why I asked....is the data in there based on student input?  I don't know.  Never applied as an undergraduate to a Big Ten school.

Middle 50%
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Illinois: ACT 27-32, SAT 1330-1470,  http://admissions.illinois.edu/apply/requirements_freshman.html

The Process

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 16, 2015, 04:21:59 PM
I found this on the web with a Brewcity77 mention.




http://collegespun.com/college-spun-2/heres-where-the-uconn-to-the-big-east-rumor-originated

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2015 10:48 am
Here's Where The UConn-To-The-Big-East Rumor Originated

by Matt Lombardi

It's been just over a week since the men's college basketball season ended, which, apparently, means that it's been just enough time to start up the conference realignment rumor mill. UConn is the latest school to be subjected to speculation, though, as you'll see below, there doesn't seem to be much truth to what's being passed around.

Tuesday night, a former CBS News editor named Sam Albano, who attended Saint John's back in the 1970s, dropped an odd tweet about UConn potentially wanting to talk to the Big East presidents about potential membership. Albano, who cited "sources", has provided no other information about his tweet. Some have speculated that the rumors might concern lacrosse, which obviously, wouldn't be a big deal.


So @UConnHuskies calling @BIGEAST presidents 4 an audience bout membership in #BigEast #AmericanAthleticConference @KevinMcNamara33

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@MJP1313 @UConnHuskies @KevinMcNamara33 not good news 4 the #AAC. Still don't c @BIGEAST taking em unless @FOXSports steps in

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@KevinMcNamara33 @UConnHuskies Reliable sources

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@brewcity77 @UConnHuskies @BIGEAST @KevinMcNamara33 nothin 2 get giddy bout.@BIGEAST perfectw/ 10 teams & nothin in common w/ other schools

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@BasketballOP I don't need 2 do anything, capece?

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


Though there doesn't seem to be much here, Albano's tweets have been circulating on Twitter, finding their way to Reddit and numerous UConn message boards. The biggest reason? If there is any truth to the rumor, it remains to be seen what would happen to UConn's football program, considering the Big East doesn't have football as a sport.

Now you know where the rumor originated, and why it probably doesn't need to be taken seriously. We're not sure if that is going to make UConn fans feel any better, though.



Is this guy the new Dodds?
Relax. Respect the Process.

MU82

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 16, 2015, 04:21:59 PM
I found this on the web with a Brewcity77 mention.




http://collegespun.com/college-spun-2/heres-where-the-uconn-to-the-big-east-rumor-originated

Wednesday, Apr 15, 2015 10:48 am
Here's Where The UConn-To-The-Big-East Rumor Originated

by Matt Lombardi

It's been just over a week since the men's college basketball season ended, which, apparently, means that it's been just enough time to start up the conference realignment rumor mill. UConn is the latest school to be subjected to speculation, though, as you'll see below, there doesn't seem to be much truth to what's being passed around.

Tuesday night, a former CBS News editor named Sam Albano, who attended Saint John's back in the 1970s, dropped an odd tweet about UConn potentially wanting to talk to the Big East presidents about potential membership. Albano, who cited "sources", has provided no other information about his tweet. Some have speculated that the rumors might concern lacrosse, which obviously, wouldn't be a big deal.


So @UConnHuskies calling @BIGEAST presidents 4 an audience bout membership in #BigEast #AmericanAthleticConference @KevinMcNamara33

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@MJP1313 @UConnHuskies @KevinMcNamara33 not good news 4 the #AAC. Still don't c @BIGEAST taking em unless @FOXSports steps in

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@KevinMcNamara33 @UConnHuskies Reliable sources

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@brewcity77 @UConnHuskies @BIGEAST @KevinMcNamara33 nothin 2 get giddy bout.@BIGEAST perfectw/ 10 teams & nothin in common w/ other schools

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015


@BasketballOP I don't need 2 do anything, capece?

— Sammy Albano (@SammyAlbano) April 15, 2015



In other words ...

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