Bucks to unveil $500 million stadium plan just north of BC

[GGGG]

But I was told Milwaukee was Algonquin for "the good land", so no remediation should be required.  It's in the name!!

That was before the pale faced invaders from across the ocean got ahold of it.

[Dawson Rental]

That was before the pale faced invaders from across the ocean got ahold of it.

What a bunch of liberal, tree hugging, PC crud.

[rocky_warrior]

Also, ideally want contaminants out prior to frost if possible.

Pardon my ignorance (and apparently lack of Milwaukee history), but what's the cause of these contaminants?  The site was previously an interchange for a failed highway project correct? What else brought on all this fear (or fact) of contamination?

[GGGG]

My guess is that somewhere along the way some factory was dumping something bad into that site. The highway was only around sixty years or so.

[warriorchick]

Pardon my ignorance (and apparently lack of Milwaukee history), but what's the cause of these contaminants?  The site was previously an interchange for a failed highway project correct? What else brought on all this fear (or fact) of contamination?

Fun fact:  Anyone remember the dry cleaner on 12th and Wells? Marquette owns that property now, but really can't do anything with it because the ground is contaminated with dry cleaning chemicals. I think ROTC uses it to park their gear trailers.

[🏀]

Pardon my ignorance (and apparently lack of Milwaukee history), but what's the cause of these contaminants?  The site was previously an interchange for a failed highway project correct? What else brought on all this fear (or fact) of contamination?

Well, the biggest 'contaminate' are the old freeway footings. They weren't removed because of the crap they were built on.

The corridor was, like much of downtown, a fill site. Up to 20 feet of material was dumped there containing VOCs, DROs and lead.

Before the freeway, there was gas stations, a printer, junkyard and trucking facilities. So there's also plenty of petroleum in there as well.


Not good stuff, but is not super contaminated. If it was worse, the soil would have to be barged to Michigan for disposal like the Milwaukee Die Factory clean up.

Ultimately, it's not insane to have this clean up for a downtown location whether it be Milwaukee, Racine or Chicago. However, those bridge piers add another large hurdle to the site.

They'll likely be excavated, scrubbed, broken, washed, scrapped for metal and then crushed for aggregate. That's a loooong process for 100+ piers.

[rocky_warrior]

The highway was only around sixty years or so.

Only 3 decades off.  Opened in 1971, was torn down in 2003. 

Edit: Thanks PTM

[Eldon]

But I was told Milwaukee was Algonquin for "the good land", so no remediation should be required.  It's in the name!!

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/nRCTc6stICc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/nRCTc6stICc</a>

Nicely done.

[GGGG]

Only 3 decades off.  Opened in 1971, was torn down in 2003. 

Edit: Thanks PTM

Oops.

[jsglow]

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-to-sign-bucks-arena-funding-bill-at-wisconsin-state-fair-b99555622z1-321544131.html

[warriorchick]

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-to-sign-bucks-arena-funding-bill-at-wisconsin-state-fair-b99555622z1-321544131.html

Again, the comments are quite entertaining.  My favorite so far:

Walker is a Republican. All Republicans suck. May he eat a cream puff gone bad.

[MUfan12]

Done deal.

[Ardmore Mug]

As I watched the signing on TV, it was great to see 2 MU students wearing. MU BB shirts in the front row, very visible on almost every angle.  Gonna really PO the Wisky fans..   

[jsglow]

I'm pleased that this got bipartisan support.  Many of you might recall that I was originally opposed.  But the economics of this deal are pretty hard to argue with.  1) It's better than the financing package that most cities negotiated in the last 25 years, and 2) the Bucks and their revenue stream were 100% gone if the deal wasn't completed. 

Sure there was some horse trading.  Idk, President Reagan used to horse trade with Tip O'Neill and that seemed to work out okay most times.

[jsglow]

Next step.  The dirt changes hands.....

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/business/325933261.html

[GoldenWarrior11]

Anyone else find it funny that DePaul announced a new stadium about a full year before Marquette/Milwaukee did, and they have yet to even break ground?

[warriorchick]

Anyone else find it funny that DePaul announced a new stadium about a full year before Marquette/Milwaukee did, and they have yet to even break ground?

Funny, sort of. Surprising, no.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Anyone else find it funny that DePaul announced a new stadium about a full year before Marquette/Milwaukee did, and they have yet to even break ground?

And that they already are way over budget?

[Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup]

Anyone else find it funny that DePaul announced a new stadium about a full year before Marquette/Milwaukee did, and they have yet to even break ground?

Legitimate question: who plays a home game in their new arena first? Marquette or DePaul?

[mu03eng]

Legitimate question: who plays a home game in their new arena first? Marquette or DePaul?

Marquette and its not close.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Marquette and its not close.

100% Agreed.  Milwaukee will (most likely) be braking ground in the next 1-2 months.  Their deal was officially announced in April, with approval in July.

Chicago's DePaul/McCormick Place Events Center was announced in May 2013.  Construction was planned to begin in 2014.  After amending the proposal, which saw the original 12,000 seat, $300 million stadium go to a 10,000 seat, $173 million stadium, the project saw a one year delay in ground breaking until 2015.

I see the site every day, and let me tell you, it is not even close to begin breaking ground and/or having construction anytime soon.  I would be shocked if anything happens before 2016, at the earliest.

Why DePaul rejected a 10-year, rent-free, offer from the United Center is beyond me.  The new stadium location is no closer to DePaul's campus than Rosemont for students.  It has no close train stop, and there is nothing there for students to go to.

[warriorchick]

100% Agreed.  Milwaukee will (most likely) be braking ground in the next 1-2 months.  Their deal was officially announced in April, with approval in July.

Chicago's DePaul/McCormick Place Events Center was announced in May 2013.  Construction was planned to begin in 2014.  After amending the proposal, which saw the original 12,000 seat, $300 million stadium go to a 10,000 seat, $173 million stadium, the project saw a one year delay in ground breaking until 2015.

I see the site every day, and let me tell you, it is not even close to begin breaking ground and/or having construction anytime soon.  I would be shocked if anything happens before 2016, at the earliest.

Why DePaul rejected a 10-year, rent-free, offer from the United Center is beyond me.  The new stadium location is no closer to DePaul's campus than Rosemont for students.  It has no close train stop, and there is nothing there for students to go to.

It's Chicago.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

That was before the pale faced invaders from across the ocean got ahold of it.

Chico's should be along shortly to disabuse you of this notion.

[Skatastrophy]

I see the site every day, and let me tell you, it is not even close to begin breaking ground and/or having construction anytime soon.  I would be shocked if anything happens before 2016, at the earliest.

Why DePaul rejected a 10-year, rent-free, offer from the United Center is beyond me.  The new stadium location is no closer to DePaul's campus than Rosemont for students.  It has no close train stop, and there is nothing there for students to go to.

The United Center is a logistical nightmare similar to their situation in Rosemont. The city runs busses from downtown to the UC to that people can get to the games.

The new McCormick Place location for DePaul's arena is 6 blocks from the Chinatown Red Line stop.

Also, construction started this summer, but I haven't been down there in a few weeks to check it out. I'd go now, but it's raining.

http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2015/07/20/construction-workers-dig-in-around-mccormick-place.php

[mu03eng]

100% Agreed.  Milwaukee will (most likely) be braking ground in the next 1-2 months.  Their deal was officially announced in April, with approval in July.

Chicago's DePaul/McCormick Place Events Center was announced in May 2013.  Construction was planned to begin in 2014.  After amending the proposal, which saw the original 12,000 seat, $300 million stadium go to a 10,000 seat, $173 million stadium, the project saw a one year delay in ground breaking until 2015.

I see the site every day, and let me tell you, it is not even close to begin breaking ground and/or having construction anytime soon.  I would be shocked if anything happens before 2016, at the earliest.

Why DePaul rejected a 10-year, rent-free, offer from the United Center is beyond me.  The new stadium location is no closer to DePaul's campus than Rosemont for students.  It has no close train stop, and there is nothing there for students to go to.

Not to mention there is a theoretical drop dead date from the NBA for Milwaukee, no such must be done by date exists for DePaul that I'm aware of.